Why in the hell did the DoD ping me after signing on to DU?

[neomonkey]

So I turn my computer on, start Feeddemon then Firefox in the usual order, read a few blogs, then log on to DU and I get a couple of alerts from my ZA firewall. Nothing unusual, get that all the time, same old stuff. The first is one of many pings I get regularly from China (they run rampant on the interet). The second comes from an IP address: 205.0.181.44

I do a trace, d'oh, DoD Network Information Center.

:tinfoilhat:

Here is the trace:

OrgName: DoD Network Information Center
OrgID: DNIC
Address: 7990 Science Applications Ct
Address: M/S CV 50
City: Vienna
StateProv: VA
PostalCode: 22183-7000
Country: US

NetRange: 205.0.0.0 - 205.117.255.255
CIDR: 205.0.0.0/10, 205.64.0.0/11, 205.96.0.0/12, 205.112.0.0/14, 205.116.0.0/15
NetName: JMCIS-BLOCK
NetHandle: NET-205-0-0-0-1
Parent: NET-205-0-0-0-0
NetType: Direct Allocation
NameServer: NCC.NCTS.NAVY.MIL
NameServer: GATE.NCTS.NAVY.MIL
NameServer: NS1.NOSC.MIL
Comment: DOD Network Information Center
Comment: Space and Naval Warfare Systems
Comment: Washington, DC 20363-5100 US
RegDate:
Updated: 2004-09-20

TechHandle: LS529-ARIN
TechName: Slade, Lawana
TechPhone: [phone]
TechEmail: mailto:[email protected]

OrgTechHandle: MIL-HSTMST-ARIN
OrgTechName: Network DoD
OrgTechPhone: [phone]
OrgTechEmail: mailto:[email protected]

# ARIN WHOIS database, last updated 2004-10-29 19:10
# Enter ? for additional hints on searching ARIN's WHOIS database.


Name: Slade, Lawana
Handle: LS529-ARIN
Company:
Address: SPAWAR SCC Pensacola Office
Address: 130 West Avenue Suite D
City: Pensacola
StateProv: FL
PostalCode: 32508-5111
Country: US
Comment:
RegDate: 2001-01-09
Updated: 2002-04-25
Phone: [phone] (Office)
Phone: [phone] (Fax)
Email: mailto:[email protected]

Oh mommy, did I do something wrong? I'm surely not that important.

Anyone care to feed or dispel my paranoia?

[crispini]

1. WTF? shit.

Ok, I have nothing productive to say. Just... uh oh....

Now I'm worried.

[knowbody0]

4. everything we say and do IS held against us

take comfort in our numbers

[SheepyMcSheepster]

2. check out their homepage

they like to tell you they know who you are.

http://www.nic.mil/

"Use of this page and all DoD NIC
services constitutes consent to monitoring"

[porphyrian]

3. Fuck DoD.

There, now they'll ping me, too.

[NMDemDist2]

5. seems you're not the only one

http://www.google.com/search?q=Slade%2C+Lawana+&start=0&start=0&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official

[neomonkey]

8. Eww, this one caught my eye

http://news.spamcop.net/pipermail/spamcop-geeks/2001-February/000515.html

Okay, folks... This is really intriguing for me, and slightly unsettling.

I was randomly browsing through my firewall logs and... from what I can
tell, someone on the Defense Department network -- in particular "Space
and Naval Warfare Systems" -- tried to gain access to my machine via
port 9704. From what I read, backdoor exploits come in through this port.

Googling eventually led me to
http://enterprise.spawar.navy.mil/spawarpublicsite/ . From "SPAWAR's
Mission":

> SPAWAR's mission is to provide the warfighter with knowledge superiority
> by developing, delivering, and maintaining effective, capable and
> integrated command, control, communications, computer, intelligence and
> surveillance systems. And, while our name and organizational structure
> have changed several times over the years, our basic mission of helping
> the Navy communicate and share critical information has not. SPAWAR
> provides information technology and space systems for today's Navy and
> Defense Department activities while planning and designing for the
> future.

"intelligence and surveillance systems" Hmmm...

Maybe someone can tell me something about this that will make it sound
less sinister than it seems to me. Maybe some young sailor was just
playing around one afternoon... maybe some on-the-job training... Is
there something other than backdoor exploits that port 9704 is used for?

In other words, is there an everyday explanation that will stop me from
donning my tinfoil hat to ward off the black helicopters? <g>

-----------------
Date and time: 1/2/2001 3:53:54 PM
Action: Access attempt DENIED
Service: unknown
Port: 9704
Mode: TCP
IP address: 205.0.0.148
Host name: 205.0.0.148

[salvorhardin]

6. I get them

spidering my web sites all the time.

[Cat Atomic]

19. Same here.

[havocmom]

7. For more fun and giggles, google your screen name

Man, there are TOO many bored people out there keeping tabs on our verbal exploits! To all the bloggers who quote me in their RW rants,
:P

[RebelYell]

11. Yawn

http://mysite.wanadoo-members.co.uk/RebelYell/index.jhtml

[BiggJawn]

37. Yeah, and they ALWAYS quote my rants that I make when I'm P-O'ed...

NEVER the good shit I write.

Oh, well, so I get shot some day by some cop who says "YOU'RE 'BiggJawn'??? so, you hate cops, huh?"

[katinmn]

44. Uh-Oh

Shit! Well, it's out there for the world to see.

I think it's time to start a personal confessions thread...

I was at the Million Mom March
I have bought drugs over the Internet
I called Bush a chimp and Cheney Dr. Evil
I routinely refer to Rumsfeld as Rumsfailed...

[madmax]

9. Should I be worried?

:scared: :tinfoilhat:

[dweller]

10. download Sygate firewall

free version. Allows you to test against all ports. (Tools, test your system).

http://smb.sygate.com/download_buy.htm (look for free home version)

I run both Sygate and ZA. . . but am beginning to like the Sygate more and more.


dp

[katinmn]

45. Test, yeah, but does it prevent them from entering?

[dweller]

49. the test connects to Sygate to check your ports

for entry. If you have open ports, it will notify you how to correct them.

so, yeah, i guess it prevents them from entering. Perhaps someone with more experience about this can clarify.

doesn't hurt to have an adequate firewall regardless.
dp

[BrotherBuzz]

12. Brother, Brother Beware

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Oh, I almost forgot...Black Panther! So there! Brother Buzz

PS: Memo to FCC - Shit, Fuck, God Damn!

[Kazak]

16. Hmmm...Standards?

That reminds me A LOT of the inner sleeve of Tortoise's album, Sandards. The weird thing is...they both start with the exact same word, Waihopai. That's pretty random. Is this based on Standards?

[BrotherBuzz]

31. Never seen the Standards album

I'm a simple luddite but Waihopai is a spook station in New Zealand.

http://www.converge.org.nz/abc/waihopai.html

Could that Tortoise album be source list all the urban myth Echelon Buzz-words? Cool.

Echelon, under USA's NSA and other world superpowers, can intercept two billion phone calls per day, along with faxes and e-mails and other electronic communications.

Echelon is perhaps the most powerful intelligence gathering organization in the world. Several credible reports suggest that this global electronic communications surveillance system presents an extreme threat to the privacy of people all over the world. According to these reports, ECHELON attempts to capture staggering volumes of satellite, microwave, cellular and fiber-optic traffic, including communications to and from North America. This vast quantity of voice and data communications are then processed through sophisticated filtering technologies.

This massive surveillance system apparently operates with little oversight. Moreover, the agencies that purportedly run ECHELON have provided few details as to the legal guidelines for the project. Because of this, there is no way of knowing if ECHELON is being used illegally to spy on private citizens.

This site is designed to encourage public discussion of this potential threat to civil liberties, and to urge the governments of the world to protect our rights.

http://archive.aclu.org/echelonwatch/index.html

Big Brother is watching!

[nickgutierrez]

28. Best post ever.

The memo to the FCC gave me my first good laugh of the new day. :)

[Aunt Anti-bush]

13. Please don't yell at me

but what is 'pinging'? What did they do to you?

[yorgatron]

14. will i get pinged too?

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Oh, I almost forgot...Black Panther! So there!

PS: Memo to FCC - Shit, Fuck, God Damn!

[anarchy1999]

34. An interesting post. Welcome to DU.

I especially like your ps to the FCC. Shame on me.

[Buns_of_Fire]

36. "Ronco"?

Ah, yes, probably checking to see if you've purchased a Ronco Home Particle Accelerator and Food Dehydrator (only three easy payments of $49.95, if you promise to tell a friend!).

[neomonkey]

15. Pinging

I'm not sure I can define it as well as other more knowledgable people, but basically it's when one computer/user sends a packet of info over the internet to a specified IP address in order to establish its existence. ZA is one of many firewalls out there which monitor your ports and alerts you when a packet of info is received or directed at your computer.

There is so much traffic out there, if you are connected to the internet, you will receive many IP queries. 99.5 % of are either legit or harmless. I thought the DoD query was interesting, I've never seen anything inbound from that agency, at least on my workstation.

[Aunt Anti-bush]

17. Thank you.

I kind of understand it now. It was pretty weird timing for the DoD query even if it is probably harmless.

[demobabe]

29. pinging and queries

ping is an actual unix command... if you have a unix command line, you can type in:

ping hostname(or IP number)

and it will send a packet of data to the host specified. if the host isn't too busy or down, it will respond back.

what happened with the firewall alert is that someone tried to access your port 9700-whatever it was, and was denied by the firewall.

unix is set up with a bunch of standard protocols - like when you ask for a web page, the computer sends a request typically to port 80. if you want to ftp, the computer sends a request to port 21. want to send mail? port 25. secure web request? usually port 8080. yahoo messenger? port 5010. AOL Instant Messanger? port 5190.

people fishing around to try to break into your machine typically will sniff around the higher port numbers.

here's a list of standard port numbers:
http://www.iss.net/security_center/advice/Exploits/Ports/default.htm

they're just set up in software - the first time i heard about ports, i couldn't figure out if it was something on the back of my computer or what.

[neomonkey]

40. Good info demobabe, thanks

I think "ping" was the wrong terminology.

Unfortunately in my pre-election haze (not to mention I'm just downright miserly), I let my subscription for the ZA update lapse and the alert didn't spell out any info on the probe. I was unable to tell which port it was intended for, or even what kind of probe it was.

[immoderate]

46. You can ping from Windows as well

Just bring up the command line window in your accessories sub menu.

Type "ping" and follow it with an IP number or host name. Some big sites can resist this and will time out.

--IMM

[clu]

18. hm

it could be that someone has a sig that links to an image host on their site.

[EmperorHasNoClothes]

20. It's possible this was from an infected computer

I'm no expert on the subject but it is certainly possible that there is a virus on the dod computer (sadly, it would not surprise me) that is attempting to infect other computers.

[LiberalAndProud]

21. The want to know if the OBL tape was photoshopped.

I am waiting for analysis as well ...

Can the new BinLaden tape be digitally enhanced for clarification? The Dept of Defense would like to know.


Greetings to our soldiers in Iraq! WE LOVE YOU GUYS:yourock:

[Sugarbleus]

30. LOL @ Greetings to our soldiers in Iraq! WE LOVE YOU GUYS

.......'SAME GOES FROM ME' O8)

[queerart]

22. As Strange As It May Sound.......

I found the DOD had visted my web site..... I look over my web logs a few times a day... and about 1 week ago my personal web site was visted by the DOD, but also the "Department of Agriculture" no less????...

How weird is that?

Maybe they were checking to see if I was selling un-inspected produce through my site? :-)

I have no clue?

[starroute]

26. Could just be bored employees

One day some months ago, my husband's hit counter showed someone at a military location looking all over his site. The odd thing was that whoever it was didn't even seem interested in the more political content -- just in the fun stuff and philosophical little essays.

We finally decided it was just a bored employee who had time on his hands and was surfing around.

[queerart]

33. Point Well Taken......

I didn't stress it too much when I ran across it.... But when hearing the other stories.... Just thought I'd toss in my Two Cents;-)

[Chovexani]

27. Heh I doubt it's sinister

Probably bored federal employees surfing at work. Not everything is black helicopters, and this is coming from someone who firmly keeps the tinfoil hat on.

[leftofthedial]

23. that's how fascism works

in the Internet Age.

[pauliedangerously]

24. Way cool.....

I just saw your post and downloaded ZA and installed it. I'm running Mozilla. This ought to be interesting.

I Googled my screen name and got some hits. YEEEHA! I'm famous!!!

:headbang: :headbang: :headbang: :headbang: :headbang: :headbang: :headbang: :headbang: :headbang: :headbang: :headbang: :headbang:

[Maiden England]

25. I'm perfectly safe, I'm wearing my tin-foil hat

so there

[anarchy1999]

32. Tin Foil is good. Lots of it. Also, who cares, didn['t you already know?

Welcome to being a dissident. It will start to feel good soon for you.

Nothing to worry about, when they come to get you, you will be in very good company. Just imagine if you will, Howard Zinn, Molly Ivins, Paul Krugman, Greg Palast, Medea Benjamin, Arundahti Roy, Gore Vidal, Robert Fisk, Robert Jensen, GrannyD, Jim Hightower, David Cobb, and the list just goes on and on......

We will all be in good company.

To speak out is to be patriotic.

[DrBB]

35. Quite possible it's just a virus on a DOD computer

I await correction by superior knowledge, but those machines are HUGE virus and other computer attack targets--all big institutions are, but those more than most. Could be just a virus or invasive program on a DOD machine sending out bazillions of messages looking for other targets.

[electricmonk]

38. Just checked my ZA Log

I had dozens of pings from their IP range back in April and May then a few months without any and a few more starting in September. Most recent one was Oct. 9

[DuaneBidoux]

39. Oh Oh...does this means DOD knows I have a thing for fat Asian babes?

[PaDUer]

41. We've had the same ping..

along w/ a couple of other govt agencies. Guess they're just following "orders"!

-edit-
Also, a couple of times when those pings occurred, I've had my entire favorite places, a month of incoming and outgoing emails gone also. Then, they were returned a few weeks later. You can imagine how freaked out we were.

[Tsiyu]

42. Chicken shits in the DoD

Cannot find Osama, lost 300+ tons of explosives, licked *'s boots and caused the deaths of 100,000 Iraqis and now 1200 of our own and guess what? Just like the Patriot Act with its attacks on decent Americans, just like the War on Drugs with its incarceration of non-violent offenders, the pngs on your 'puter show how the Right wing doesn't care about our enemies in the world outside the US. They are more concerned with their enemies inside the US - YOU and anyone who disagrees with fascism.

If they can keep us intimidated and hunted, they don't have to catch Osama or defend this country or act with any sense. They can cause bloodshed all over the world, as they so deeply desire. They are evil, bloodthirsty sociopaths.

If they are watching, so what? They are greedy, Nazi cowards who don't deserve to be called citizens of the United States.

I wouldn't worry. History was not kind to the former Nazis.

[Deja Q]

43. I didn't know we were such a threat.

Oh well.

It may have been nothing more than a sniffer.

Be worried only if ~40,000 other DUers report the same thing as you had. O8)

[wordout]

47. stick em in the tarpit.

Tarpits

"8Signs Firewall allow you to trap hackers, slow down the spread of worms and stall spammers by creating tarpits. A tarpit is a trap for troublesome outsiders. Your system accepts TCP connections but never replies and ignores disconnect requests. This can leave ports scanners and hackers stuck for hours, even days."

http://www.8signs.com/firewall/features.cfm


Last year my political postings at a quiet forum attracted huge attention from ip's in Reston, Herndon, Vienna, Manassa and a list of other cities in VA state. The tarpit feature had just been introduced (yay!)so i added the ip ranges to the banlist, checked the "tarpit' box, sit back and watched for tcp connections. great fun!

Check your options some trace utilities allow you to send a custom icmp message. instead of "pinging by product xx" change it to something like "your mother sucks cocks in hell". then tarpit their ip range.

[Tsiyu]

48. Ahhhh, payback on the Internets!

I love you hackers. Thanks for the tips!