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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-04 05:47 AM
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George Carlin doesn't vote!
How sad is that? He is on MSNBC's IMUS and just said he doesn't vote and ISN'T going to vote this year either. :cry: Man, I thought he was smarter than that. He said people always say, "If you don't vote, you have no right to complain." Then he says, "I tell them it's the other way around. I stayed home, minding my own business and you went out and voted for this person who is doing all this bad stuff to us so, I say YOU don't have a right to complain because YOU put this person in office." :eyes: I'm very disappointed in him.

Now IMUS is saying he doesn't know who he will vote for. He "guesses: he will still vote for Kerry. :grr:
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fujiyama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-04 05:50 AM
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1. I heard Carlin say it before
and it's disappointing considering he is quite intelligent and each time I saw him on Maher he seemed very pro Kerry and anti Bush.

Imus on the other hand is a moron. He "supports" Kerry, but it hasn't been very clear or consistant.
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mrbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-04 05:53 AM
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2. Carlin's a mythic trickster.......
imus is a moran.
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lectrobyte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-04 10:36 AM
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20. Carlin's been saying this for years. Always figured he was just
trying to make people think, i.e., a bit of a mindf-ck.
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-04 05:56 AM
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3. Carlin just called Bar Bush
Edited on Mon Oct-18-04 06:08 AM by in_cog_ni_to
The Silver DOUCHEBAG!!!!! Bwahahahahahahahahahaha! :bounce:
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unfrigginreal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-04 05:57 AM
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4. Hahaha - Barbara Bush 'The Silver Douchebag'
LOL
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Maddy McCall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-04 05:57 AM
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5. Did you hear his nickname for Babs Bush?
"The Silver Douchebag"


LOL!
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MatrixEscape Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-04 06:05 AM
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6. He has earned it ...
Carlin is now in old foggy-ville. In some cultures, the call that a Sage. He has seen a lot in his years.

Some people see the two-party system and the whole deal as nothing more than a game played on the people. In that case, not voting is a vote against that system. It is a farce, for the most part.

It is kind of an Illuminati NWO perspective, I think. They put Bush in to screw things up and scare the bejebus out of you, then you get Kerry and feel such a relief that you become more complient for the next agendd. It is just pure manipulation on a grand scale. That would suggest a grand chess board theory controlled by players who know the game so well that you would never imagine that they know it and that they pull your strings better than a hooker.

Sorry to have to relate that here. I still support Kerry, but I will have to see how things go after he wins. This system needs major reform and for the last hundred years, or so, it has clearly been a game of those who have money and power and use it to manipulate vast numbers of people in a Fuedal way. We are the serfs and know it not?
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latebloomer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-04 08:06 AM
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12. very interesting perspective!!
We settle for less because we are so thoroughly frightened--but the alternative is still firmly in the hands of the puppeteers.
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drunkdriver-in-chief Donating Member (267 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-04 10:18 AM
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14. That's the way i see it too
I hope kerry wins but it's just amazing that both candidates are skull & bonesmen. Democracy is a hoax. The puppetmasters determine the candidates and then rig the elections. I think kerry will win because "they" know that bush has been a catastrophe.
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teryang Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-04 06:06 AM
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7. Wealthy people don't want to admit they're so crass
Edited on Mon Oct-18-04 06:07 AM by teryang
...so as to vote for an obvious idiot like the chimp just to keep their tax cuts, so they equivocate and say, "I think I may vote for Kerry."
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-04 06:16 AM
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8. It does lower his perceived IQ.
He doesn't seem so smart, afterall.
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anarchy1999 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-04 06:19 AM
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9. Thank you Mr. Carlin. He said it all so well. I'm sorry, I'm truly sorry
We deserve what we get. Who cares about Kerry or Bush. We have to clean the "HOUSE", then and only then may we get something done. Sorry.
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expatriate Donating Member (853 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-04 07:41 AM
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10. It's a shame he's not voting ...
And an even bigger shame that he's making it public. He is a bright man, but unfortunately, George Carlin has become extremely bitter over time. Years ago, in the late 1960's and early 1970's, he tried very hard to come across as a typical "type B" personality, the easygoing, mellow, cool hippie type - when in reality, his true personality is more "type A". The stress of trying to maintain that persona, both onstage and off, was a major factor in his several heart attacks. I can remember when he returned to performing after heart surgery, and being astounded by this incredibly angry, bitter man, particularly when comparing him to the old "Hippy Dippy Weatherman" routine that was his trademark in his "mellow" days.

I've gotten the feeling of late that Carlin is so bitter that he just doesn't believe in anything any longer - and people who reach that level of disillusionment aren't going to want to back anyone in an election because they feel that it's all futile anyway. Sad.
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gatlingforme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-04 08:00 AM
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11. I was never impressed with Carlin, Imus is voting Bush, he's is just
saying that to keep his Dem listeners happy. He's a turd.
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-04 10:09 AM
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13. My sister said that Imus will have his TV cameras with him
on election day to show his viewers that he really voted for Kerry. We'll see. If he doesn't take the cameras with him we'll know exactly who he DIDN'T vote for.
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K-W Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-04 10:36 AM
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19. No he will vote for Kerry if he says he will.
Edited on Mon Oct-18-04 10:36 AM by K-W
He isnt a covert Republican, hes just a pompous windbag.
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gatlingforme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-04 01:01 PM
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23. I hope you guys are right.
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Paragon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-04 10:23 AM
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15. I love George, but he's either kidding or retarded about this.
If he's joking, fine -- but if he's not, he needs to remember one thing:

Carlin has a national stage and he's "campaigning" all the time.

Those of us who don't have national tours and bestsellers have to express ourselves in more meager (he said sarcastically) ways. Y'know - voting and protesting and stuff.

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sonicx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-04 10:31 AM
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16. he's not joking, he's said this many times.
i remember an interview he did on Majority Report. He basically thinks politics is a circus and likes to 'sit back and watch.'
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Paragon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-04 10:35 AM
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18. Well, hey...what's more American than apathy?
Thanks, George. :eyes:
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-04 10:37 AM
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21. He's was dead serious.
He's not voting and hasn't voted in years. :(
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Paragon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-04 10:39 AM
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22. Guess he and the South Park guys can have a big circle jerk on Nov 2nd
:D
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Philostopher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-04 10:32 AM
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17. I know several people of Carlin's generation ...
and general demographics (without the financial success) who seem to feel this way, and usually don't vote for national candidates. I have an old friend on a message list who pissed me off so much with this attitude, I just decided to stop reading the messages from that list until the election is over -- I consider myself somewhat paranoid, and tend to believe both parties are at least somewhat beholden to the corporations that finance them, but even I will vote and hope for the best.

It's kind of sad, especially when they're people who are active in their communities and believe economic Darwinism is wrong, and yet they've convinced themselves or allowed themselves to be convinced that none of it makes any difference beyond the local level.

Carlin ain't the only articulate, sixty-ish ex-hippie windbag who thinks voting doesn't make a difference, and that height is the only difference between Bush* and Kerry, in other words. That doesn't mean I have to be happy to hear it out of them, though.
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Artemis Bunyon Donating Member (435 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-04 01:02 PM
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24. You have to forgive certain individuals their sins. Like Keef and heroin.
Know what I mean?
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hiphopnation Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-04 01:06 PM
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25. This is a very old routine for Carlin.
Edited on Mon Oct-18-04 01:07 PM by hiphopnation23
From at least ten years ago he started in on this "I don't vote" routine. Personally, as a huge fan of his, I cannot beleive it because he speaks equally as passionately about politics in general. I think it's all a schtick and I wouldn't give it too much stock.

Here's part of the rouinte:

...so I have solved this little politcal dillema in a very simple way, on election day I stay home. I don't vote, fuck 'em. Fuck 'em, I don't vote. Two reasons. Two reasons I don't vote. First of all, it's meaningless. This country was bought and sold and paid for a long time ago. The shit they shuffle around every 4 years, doesn't mean a fucking thing. Secondly I don't vote, because I believe if you vote you have no right to complain. People like to twist that around, I know. They say "well, if you don't vote you have no right to complain." But where is the logic in that? If you vote and you elect dishonest incompetant people and they get into office and screw everything up, well you are responsible for what they have done. You cause the problem, you voted them in, you have no right to complain. I, on the other hand, who did not vote, who did not vote, who infact did not even leave the house on election day, am in no way responsible for what these people have done and have a right to complain as loud as I want about the mess you created that I had nothing to do with. So I know that a little later on this year you're going to have another of those really swell presidential elections that you like so much, you enjoy yourself it'll be alot of fun. I'm sure that as soon as the election is over your country will approve immediately. As for me, I'll be home that day doing essentially the same thing as you. The only difference is, when I get finished masturbating I'm gonna have a little something to show for it folks.
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bloom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-04 01:14 PM
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26. He is spreading the Republican Meme / Dream
He was also on the View this am. I didn't watch it - but I can imagine he said the same thing.

The counter- response to Drew Barrymore and her get out the vote campaign.
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Robbie67 Donating Member (687 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-04 01:15 PM
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27. Carlin also rejects religion
Something tells me that Carlin has a view of things that are grounded in a greater reality.

Link to transcript of his recent appearance on Real Time w/ Bill Maher
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