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skypilot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-04-04 11:35 AM
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Did Condi Rice really say that?!?!
Al Franken was just talking about the aluminum tubes that the Bush administration said were proff that Saddam was reconstituting his nuclear weapons program. Franken said that there were questions about whether or not they were the right kinds of aluminum tubes for this purpose and that there was some debate. According to Franken. Condi Rice was on some political talk show and said that she knew there was a debate but that she DIDN'T KNOW WHAT THE DEBATE WAS ABOUT(!!!!) Did anyone see the show that Al is talking about? Did that incompetent fool, Rice, actually say this?
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RoundRockD Donating Member (426 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-04-04 11:38 AM
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1. I think she said that on ABC's show with Stephanopolous (sp)? n/t
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Chelsea Patriot Donating Member (603 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-04-04 12:53 PM
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20. Spelling: Stuffitinmyanus
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against all enemies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-04-04 11:40 AM
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2. Sky pilot, NYTimes story yesterday, detailed the story of the tubes,
and a follow up story today, explains the CNN shows that Condi lied on. She had the information that the tubes were for artillery before she went on CNN and wrongly stated that they were for the nuclear program.
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skypilot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-04-04 11:41 AM
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5. Thanks, istherehope.
I've been staying away from the New York Time, except to read Krugman now and then, but I'll check this story out.
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against all enemies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-04-04 11:50 AM
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13. It is worth the read,
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against all enemies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-04-04 11:52 AM
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15. Worth the read.
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GregW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-04-04 11:49 AM
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11. Artillery - aren't they for rocket bodies?
:shrug:
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JohnnyRingo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-04-04 12:10 PM
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18. I believe modern artillery tech involves launching small rockets....
...To determine the effects of winds aloft before firing an expensive artillery shell that could go astray and cause collateral battlefield damage.
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displacedtexan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-04-04 11:41 AM
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3. Here's a link to Pundit Pap.
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aden_nak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-04-04 11:41 AM
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4. I have heard of it, but have no firsthand knowledge.
If I were a Freeper, that would mean it clearly happened. But I can't say for certain either way.

However, usually whenever Condi doesn't want to answer a question, she feigns ignorance. "I don't know the details, thus I should not be expected to comment." It's her standard response.
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Jokinomx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-04-04 11:43 AM
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6. skypilot... she made an absolute fool of herself...
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skypilot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-04-04 11:44 AM
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9. Oooooo, thanks much.
:)
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pattycake Donating Member (41 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-04-04 11:43 AM
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7. YES SHE SAID IT YESTERDAY
BUT GEORGE S DIDN'T CALL HER ON IT & SEVERAL OTHER THINGS
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keopeli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-04-04 11:44 AM
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8. I heard her on Late Edition
She said,

BLITZER: Now, in The New York Times today, they say that, at that time, for a year you already knew the Department of Energy and others in the U.S. government were suggesting they probably were being used for small artillery rockets or other purposes, that it was a debate that was ongoing.

RICE: Well, at that time, when I came on your show, I knew there was some debate out there. But I tell you, I did not know the nature of the debate. We learned later, as we were going through the NIE, the Department of Energy's objections.

I also knew, of course -- but I did know at the time that the DCI and the intelligence community had said -- the intelligence community as a whole, believed that these were for centrifuge parts.

http://www.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0410/03/le.01.html
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tabasco Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-04-04 11:52 AM
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14. All Condi knows how to say is "I did not know."
It's her job to know things dammit. These are not small details! The issue is possible nukes and all she can crow is "I did not know" what the debate was about. Jeezus this lady is incompeteent!
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immoderate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-04-04 11:46 AM
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10. I heard her say that
there is still a debate about the purpose of the tubes. That was with Russert, I believe.

--IMM
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3113 Donating Member (59 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-04-04 11:49 AM
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12. Yes she did, but even worse...
Edited on Mon Oct-04-04 11:56 AM by 3113
Yesterday on This Week she said several times that Saddam could have nuclear capability BY THE END OF THE DECADE. I posted this in another thread yesterday.

How could she say that after everyone in the bush regime was saying the threat was "immediate," and waiting another day was putting all our lives in jeopardy.

EDIT: I see that Jokinomx--post #6 included thread to yesterday's thread.
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skypilot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-04-04 11:54 AM
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16. "by the end of the decade"????
That also contradicts what the Bush administration was saying in the months before the war when they said the International Atomic Energy Agency said that Saddam was 6 months away from producing a nuclear weapon. Of course, the IAEA denied that they'd ever said this.

Welcome to DU, 3113.
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3113 Donating Member (59 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-04-04 12:04 PM
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17. Good to be here, thanks.
Take a look at yesterday's thread I referenced above.

Jakonomx gives a great explanation on the real reason for the urgency of war, OIL!!!!!
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Demit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-04-04 12:26 PM
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19. George S was trying to keep her on point. She just talked over him,
with that infuriating way she has: "George...George...George..." She does that, and repeats herself, like her autistic boss does, until the questioner gives up.

I hate her and her little hairdo too.
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