The Edwards/Cheney debate is going to be the interesting one.

[Cleita]

This is KKK Rove's big October surprise he has promised. Let's face it, last night's debate was really uneven. Even Kerry soft-balled it a bit in sympathy for Bush. It would have been too much like slapping a Pit Bull puppy around for him to go hardball. As much as many of us would have liked a harder stance, Kerry would have only come across as the preppy bully.

But with Edwards/Cheney we are going to get David vs Goliath and better than that, Daniel Webster going after the Devil. I can hardly wait.

[Booster]

1. I am looking forward to that debate also. I think the repugs

think Cheney will mop the floor with Edwards so the bar for Edwards is low. I think Cheney won't be able to control himself and will try to ramrod Edwards and it will backfire big time. At least that's what I'm hoping. I think Edwards can hold his own, and, besides, he's cute as a button up against a snarly old man.

[Cleita]

5. I can hear Charlie Daniels (sp?) singing about the

Devil coming down into Georgia right now. :evilgrin:

[BeatleBoot]

2. I think Cheney is THE Great Debater

Cheney is THE MAN when it comes to debates.

I hope Edwards can hold his own.

Looks bleak for us.

<lowering expectations button ON>

[InfoMinister]

4. Debate History

Anyone have any info on Cheney debates? I know he's been an adviser for several administrations. I guess he did a lot of debates behind closed doors.

[Brundle_Fly]

11. I think you are in a state of panic

Cheney is a hot head.
Edwards will maintain his cool.
Cheney uses fear mongering.
Edwards was a trial lawyer and knows how to get hot heads amped.
Cheney was a CEO, and likes bossing people
Edwards is an issue man, and can certianly drive a point home.
Cheney is a politician, and did poorly in school.
Edwards is a very well educated, as well as a self made man.
Cheney is unlikable. 32% +/- favorable
Edwards is a charmer.
Cheney has everything to lose.
Edwards has everything to gain.

I don't think Edwards can be counted out by any level.

[BeatleBoot]

16. I was being sarcastic

I am not in a state of panic.

For the record, I think Edwards is going to do great.

I was just playing the "lower the expectations" game.

[liberalmuse]

3. I see it as...

Luke Skywalker going against Jabba the Hut. I hope Cheney chokes!

[neuvocat]

6. Cheney will lose because...

of his looks for one thing. It may be cynical but its true that Edwards' appearance will carry the debate. Cheney also is very bad when it comes to dealing with people and let's not go there with the Halliburton contracts.

Cheney's the one who's running the country anyways and I thinks it will end up being Edwards' job to hold the man accountable for it all, not Kerry.

[InfoMinister]

9. Not To Mention Halliburton Giving Money To Syria

"In fact, U.S. law does ban virtually all commerce with the rogue nations, but there's a loophole that G.E., Conoco-Phillips and Halliburton have exploited: The law does not apply to any foreign or offshore subsidiary so long as it is run by non-Americans."

- http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/01/22/60minutes/main595214.shtml


Old news but I hope Edwards can bring it up during the debate.

[Cleita]

10. That's what I think too.

But I'm not writing Edward off because of his looks. I remember the Cotillion between Cheney and and Lieberman. I know Edwards ain't doin' that.

[Cat Atomic]

7. Honestly, I think it'd be easy for Cheney to do well.

Sure, he's very unpopular, but all he has to do is be reserved and paint Edwards as inexperienced. That's it. It won't win anyone over, but it won't drive them off either.

Cheney's a complete wacko, but if he can manage to go 90 minutes without telling Edwards to go fuck himself, or threatening to nuke the US as revenge for losing the election, he'll be fine.

[Erika]

8. Edwards Will Clean Cheney's Clock

Edwards has humanitarian causes on his side. The death of his 16 year old son is a blow many of us wouldn't overcome. He's fought all his life for the underdog. I can just see Cheney telling him how Halliburton is the true underdog and how we don't properly appreciate corporate globalists.

[Erika]

12. I think Edwards Will Hold Cheney's Feet to the Fire

on social issues. Cheney won't even know what he's talking about. Edwards will clean Cheney's clock, big time.

[fknobbit]

13. Cheney is arguing every single point from either

Perfidy and/or false premise. Edwards is a successful trial lawyer and will hash his evil ass.

[Blaze Diem]

14. I agree...Edwards is the Best of the Best in Trial Lawyers..

Cheney represents the big fat Corporations JE fought in the courtroom...an John Edwards walked away a winner.

He's first-class in dragging the shit out from behind the corporate legal slight-of-hand.

I am extremely anxious to watch Edwards take on Cheney in the debate..courtroom style.
I want to see this side of our man John Edwards. He will make "LA Law" look like amature hour.
Edwards IS the Real Thing my friends. And Cheney is about to meet his match.
As Elizabeth Edwards is also a top notch lawyer and advocate for the more genuine side of America, I'm sure she's playing devils advocate in the preparations for her husband's one on one with Cheney. A true sparring partner.
Must be exciting times for team Edwards!
I cannot wait..John Edwards will absolutely shine!!

May God Bless John Kerry, John Edwards and our American Democracy.
Blaze

[Disturbed]

15. J. Edwards appearance...

is decieving. He may look like a nice guy and might be but no one wins cases on looks or being a nice guy. Cheney looks evil and he is.

[oneighty]

23. Mr. Edwards Esq.

Is about forty miles away from HERE. Chautauqua Institute preparing for the debate.

I hope he prepares well. V.P.Cheney is a Viper.

180

[Radio-Active]

17. some Bush voters still agree that he's stupid...

but he's got the intelligence of Cheney to back him up. This debate is very important.

[annabanana]

18. Cheney KNOWS STUFF, unlike his idiot "boss"

If people view the debates superficially (as they usually do) he will look like the voice of pragmatism in a dangerous world. I doubt if he is capable of "loosing his cool" because there is ice water where blood should be.

Strictly from an "appearances" perspective, how does Edwards avoid looking callow?

[H2O Man]

19. I agree with the analysis on here .....

A couple points to remember: Cheney's strong suit is the one-on-one meeting behind closed doors, and the small informal meeting of 6-8 people. And that's because he is capable in positions of "wheeling and dealing," of using positions of power to influence others. But there is NO record of him being a capable debator in an open and formal setting.

Think of the post- 9-11 months. Was Cheney out in the open, leading the nation? No, it was the exact opposite of what it should have been. Bush took the VP-cheerleading position in the spirit of Spiro Agnew. Cheney did the behind-the-scenes work that signified he was in control of the "shadow government" which runs America to this day.

Edwards is a beautiful man. He is. Part of why the talking heads keep calling Kerry "Kennedy" is because the two men combine to give us a very Kennedy-like ticket. (Before Thursday's debate, I posted that the spirit of JFK, RFK, and MLK would be present with Kerry. I was not joking.) Edwards has long been a great advocate for the hard-working middle class America that is the victim of the Cheney/Halliburton policies. We're going to the courtroom of public opinion on Tuesday, and we're going to see the very best of John Edwards.

What's interesting is the republican know this, too. That's why we hear them saying the VP debate isn't significant. Baloney! Kerry raised the bar Thursday, and Edwards will show the huge contrast between the two tickets. It will be the most important VP debate in our nation's history.

[GoldenOldie]

20. Cheney's/Lieberman debate was a joke

Lieberman played the "we're the best of friends" bit and it became a love fest between the two. This is the only public debate that Cheney ever had and Joe Lieberman made it a cake walk for him.

This will be the debate to watch as Edwards does what he does best and Cheney will respond with the lopsided snarl. Would love to be a fly on the wall as the debate coach's attempt to rid Cheney of the lip-curling snarl. Life long habits are difficult to change in a few weeks.

[H2O Man]

25. "fly on the wall"

I'm curious who they have in for damage control, or as the head of the debating coaches? I'd think they would be bringing James Baker III in for this big a job. Yet the problem remains that it is old Dick Cheney that has to debate Edwards.

Joe Lieberman could not have humiliated himself more in that debate. I find him to be in a class hardly above Zell Miller.

[anarchy1999]

21. I can't wait!!! Go John, GO!

Without the 33 pages of rules, just let him loose. I believe he is going to annihilate Cheney. Crash Cart should be on stand by, close to the stage.

[Jose Diablo]

22. Maybe the October surprise is

Cheney will vapor-lock while debating Edwards, and the repubs will go for the sympathy vote. Or maybe try to make Edwards seem like a bad meany.

Would it be a first in American politics if one of the debaters went via con Deos during the debate?

[KlatooBNikto]

24. I would like John Edwards to ask Big Dick how it is that he has avoided

SEC investigations into Halliburton's accounting practices that stink to high heavens even more than Worldcom, Enron and Tyco. When he was the CEO, Cheney reported income from contracts from which he had not dervied any income as though he was going to be able to realize those incomes, even though his customers were disputing the bills. These accounting practices were approved by, ta da, who else, but Andersen, Inc. In gratitude, Cheney wrote a letter commending Andersen for going beyond the normal accounting rules.

I would like to see the police handcuffing this crook and frogmarching him out of the TV station for this offense and his treasonous role in outing Valerie Plame.That would be the best way to end this debate.

[in_cog_ni_to]

26. What time is the debate on Tuesday?

Same time...9:00?

[Jacobin]

27. David and Goliath, baby

I would pay big money to watch this, if it weren't free on TV. This is going to be an ass whipping of epic proportions.

Cheney has so many skeletons in his closet that the hinges broke off. Edwards will be PREPARED and KNOWLEDGEABLE and ready to rip another asshole in that sack of shit, in a way that will be a joy to behold.