OUTFOXED

[Brundle_Fly]

OMG OMG OMG

As a Canadian I do not get the Fox News Channel, there has been lots of debate to bring it here, so I thought I should do a little research, to see if it was as bad as everyone here seems to claim.

I saw the Outfoxed dvd at my local sub-establishment dvd store, so I picked it up....

and it is worse, much worse than I could have though, a pure propoganda channel, I don't know how you begin to fight against something like that.

"Some People Say" it is very very wrong.

[Ksec]

1. Its tough all right

They villify anyone who steps away from the propaganda so politicians are afraid to take them on.

People who criticise it are ignored.

Hey when you have a President who makes you sign a contract saying you wholeheartedly support him, before you can watch him speak, that says it all about where this country is headed.

[bloom]

2. It is interesting to get the views of those outside the US

I don't watch FOX myself - but it still gets into the culture.

I think people who don't live here have no idea how bad the propaganda is here in the US - and a lot people here don't get it either.

[Swede]

3. This month's cover of Maclean's (it's like a Canadian Time magazine)

they have a picture of Bill O'Rielly with this headline:

IS CANADA READY FOR LOUDMOUTH TV?


in smaller print "Rude and rabidly pro=Bush Fox News now wants to come here.

I haven't had a chance to read the article yet,not sure I want to.On

[Brundle_Fly]

5. basically

the debate here, is if it is news, and if it is marketing itself as news, can we show it as it is completely just rw commentary....

its an interesting debate, but it isnt one canada should really be having, it it.

I can't believe Fox would even have the gaul to report on the Dan Rather story. Some people say, Rather has a little more credibility than O'reilly.

[Ksec]

6. A biased media is a dangerous thing. Very dangerous

[peacetalksforall]

4. Write back when you see Bush's Brain. I thought it was even more

threatening.

It is incredible how the arrangement of facts, the condensation, and viewing in one gulp can scare the (fill in the word) out of you.

Also see the doc about Al-Jazeera.

[reprehensor]

7. Now see this movie...

Orwell Rolls in His Grave
http://www.orwellrollsinhisgrave.com/home.htm

It's great. Expands on Outfoxed. Some say it's even better.

[IkeWarnedUs]

8. Another remarkable movie

"Hijacking Catastrophe: 9/11, Fear & the Selling of American Empire"

This movie picks up where Fahrenheit 911 left off.

It starts with background on some of the key players, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Wolfowitz, etc. Then it talks about the evolution of the neo-con agenda of global domination through unilateral force from the "Wolfowitz Doctrine" that was dismissed in the early 90's through the Project for the New American Century today.

They show the quotes from the September 2000 report, "Rebuilding America's Defenses; Strategy, Forces and Resources For a New Century", including the one about needing a "new Pearl Harbor" to speed things up.

Then they go on to show how this administration has used 9/11 to push their agenda, starting with the Patriot Act, Afghanistan and Iraq.

They talk about how "Shock and Awe" was directed at the world and not just the Iraqi army. Look at how powerful we are. Be afraid, be very afraid.

They talk about how this dream of empire is bankrupting our country. About how despite acting macho, the architects of this plan have no actual war experience.

They close by talking about what we can expect if the neo-cons are not stopped. It encourages fighting terror and fear with public debate and truth.

The DVD has two versions - the full movie which runs about an hour and an abridged version that runs about a half hour. It also includes extended 30 minute interviews and an examination of the Economics of Empire.

"Hijacking Catastrophe" is from The Media Education Foundation (www.mediaed.org ) and includes interviews with Lt. Colonel Karen Kwiatkowski, Scott Ritter, Daniel Elsberg, Norman Mailer, Noam Chomsky, Medea Benjamin and more as well as clips of news coverage of events.

It is in some theaters (list at the website, October shown below) but not many and not for very long.

Buy the DVD or VHS - watch it - pass it around.

This is the movie we have been waiting for!

Don't take my word for it. The movie website has substantial film clips. Check it out for yourself.

DVD or VHS for $19.95

http://www.hijackingcatastrophe.org /



Theater showings in October:

OCTOBER:
ALBUQUERQUE, NM: The Guild Cinema - OCTOBER 1 - 3
CINCINNATTI, OH: Mt. Lookout Cinema Grill - OCTOBER 1 - 7
WATERVILLE, ME: Railroad Square Cinema October 1 (or 8) for a week.
MINNEAPOLIS, MN: Minnesota Film Arts (Bell Auditorium) October 1 - 7.
BELLINGHAM, WA: Pickford Cinema - starts OCTOBER 8 (details TBA)
HYANNIS, MA: Shaughnessy Theater - Oct 8 - 14
ORLANDO, FL: (DMAC) poli-doc series; mid-late October
ATLANTA, GA: Cinefest Film Theater - October 15 - 21
CHICAGO, IL: Music Box Theater - OCTOBER 15 - 21
CLEVELAND, OH: Cleveland Cinemas - October dates to be determined
INDIANAPOLIS, IN: Key Cinema - OCTOBER 22 - 28. (details TBA)
BOSTON, MA: Coolidge Corner - OCTOBER 22 - early November. Featured film in their pre-election political film series. Will have numerous screenings.
SAN FRANCISCO, CA: Red Vic Theater - OCT 24 - 26
NORFOLK, VA: Naro Cinema - Tuesday, OCT 26 (one night only!)

[checks-n-balances]

9. Thanks for the info - this looks GREAT! And I'm glad it's coming to my

area in a few weeks.

Finally - a video that cracks this whole thing wide open, if people will just look at it!!

[jayfish]

10. If You Liked That,

You,ll love this.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x878482

Wonder if ol' Carl will go through the same pillorying that Dan Rather did?

Jay

[bullimiami]

11. some people say....

that you canadians dont know fair and balanced when you see it.

[Gold Metal Flake]

12. Any chance that any of the Canadian TV networks will air it?

I am ignorant of Canadian TV, sorry if the question is naive. But, how cool would it be?

[Brundle_Fly]

13. Canadian Television is very Liberal

we are a liberal culture

try us, you'll like us.

here is the maclean's article...

http://www.macleans.ca/culture/media/article.jsp?content=20041004_89710_89710
Macleans.ca | Culture | Media | Is Canada Ready for Loudmouth TV?

[Lisa]

14. Can you get Vision TV where you are? "The Corporation" this week

(At least in BC -- I assume, since it's cable, that it's also showing elsewhere on the same channel, Wednesday night -- first of three installments.) They've got a nice section exposing FOX, if you haven't seen the movie yet.

[clu]

15. Canada doesn't get fox?

Is that a provincial thing? I've heard that before but I didn't know that fox really wasn't carried up north.