Vetwife just called Falwell a hippocrite to his face !

[vetwife]

I heard on Msnbc today thhe My God is bigger than your God argument as a man was speaking for John Kerry that he had faith and Falwell smarted off and saidYeah like having not two weeks ago the likes of Clinton preaching at your church. This set me off. I called Liberty University at 434-582 2000 and demanded to speek to Falwell.

I told he and his secretary named Kelly that if I had been for Bush that would have done it right there as I was speaking on behalf of thousands of christians and people of faith who belief he is a hipocrit and forgot Judge not lest you be judged. They were taking aback and I said, you blew it for your man. You judged as you have been doing and you are not God and God does not belong to one party. I am sick of this and you Falwell are the biggest hippocrit known today. I too am a christian but I am not God, neither is Bush and neither are you. He explained I took it out of context. I said. NO I DIDN'T. AND NEITHER HAVER THE THOUSANDS WHO WILL BE VOTING FOR YOUR JUDGING ! FOR KERRY AND AGAINST BUSH !

[MrScorpio]

1. You rock, Vetwife

:yourock:

[bicentennial_baby]

2. You seriously rock

Truly...you are my hero! :yourock:

[vetwife]

4. Falwell was stumbling everywhere..I threw scripture at that bunch

as hard as I could and they backed down ! How did I get through? Don't know..Maybe God let me.

[ronnykmarshall]

72. I wish you had recorded it.

That would be a great keepsake.

[ChickMagic]

3. I'm impressed!

May I borrow your cajones for a while? :yourock:

[vetwife]

7. Just call that number and ask to speak to the Chancellor !

[enough]

5. Beautiful.

Truly.

[Lefta Dissenter]

6. vetwife!

[coreystone]

13. Oh, vetwife, ye that holds an abundance of faith,..

why must you expose the "suedo hypocrites" for their weaknesses?


:)


BECAUSE IT IS THE CORRECT THING TO DO!!




:bounce:

[GreenPartyVoter]

8. Bless you, my child!

You get an extra scoop of ice cream when you reach the pearly gates. ;)

--------------------------------------------------------------------
And God told His children: "I love you. Play nice."

Would Jesus love a liberal? You bet!
http://www.geocities.com/greenpartyvoter/liberalchristians.htm

[gratuitous]

9. Sweet Nefertiti!

If you're considering doing this on regular basis, let me know: I'd kick in ten bucks toward the cost of recording equipment for these calls.

[Bluzmann57]

10. HOORAY!

Very good vetwife! This shit of "my way or the highway" as far as Chritianity is concerned has to stop. Most people's religions believe that we should be tolerant, and try to help the downtrodden. But not Falwell and his ilk. No, they are nothing but money grubbing assholes who are deathly afraid if Kerry wins their gravy train will come to an end. Proud of you. Do you happen to have an email address for them? I'd like to throw in my 2 cents worth also.

[vetwife]

32. Please Bluzmann look below. I provided a direct link to MSNBC !

Sorry I did not answer, I was furious. I also just contacted Sen. Hillary Clinton and asked her to call him out !

[napi21]

11. GREAT JOB!!! I'm surprised he even took your call!

I would have expected him to be hiding behind a bunch of secretaries, and using them as shields the same as shrub does!

[vetwife]

16. I am too ! First told he was in a meeting..But I knew how to

say all he believed in but he is a poser and I debunked his radical rhetoric !

[CornField]

12. I saw that segment too -- man it ticked me off!

I ripped off a nasty letter to MSNBC about it and then turned the television to CSPAN. I've had it. I cannot believe that reporter ended the freaking segment like that and didn't allow the other man of faith to respond. Crappy "journalism" at its best.

[Disturbed]

17. Forgiveness.

Christianity is supposed to be about forgiveness if a person admits sins and works toward redemption. B. Clinton has done this but many will not forgive him. Of all the people that won't, most so-called Christian Leaders refuse to do so. Yes, it is hypocrisy.

[obnoxiousdrunk]

14. OMG Vetwife

questions the Radical Cleric Jerry FallintheWell ! You go girl.

[vetwife]

15. I appreciate it I should have recorded it..I want equal time I

I do..to debunk Falwell ..Had I not been so mad I would have asked. May call back if they will take my call. I will give you the email addy in just a sec ! Ask Coreystone..He knows my faith and me and he knows I did this as I am tired of this stuff ! Will I do it again..YEah you bet I will !

[vetwife]

18. Try this link

http://www.directdegree.com/scripts/offer.php?code=RNT-LIBERTY&&offer=LIBUNI-015&&file=M_306166

[wicket]

19. I love you Vetwife!!!

:yourock: This seriously made my day :)

As a christian myself, I am sick of Falwell and his disgraceful comments.

[vetwife]

20. Thanks and try this link and call !

http://www.falwell.com/?a=

[Bluzmann57]

21. Thank you for the link

I asked for it and you came through, even though you didn't reply to me. Ah well, thats why DU kicks ass!

[vetwife]

29. I'm sorry Bluzman...I appreciate your thoughts and all of yours..I

am just fuming and sorry I didn't respond.

[vetwife]

22. For all who have any faith left..Call that number ! SPEAK UP !

1-434=582-2000
Ask for Kelly and then ask for Falwell. be nice. Then say what you think but remember we are taking up for the christian and Faiths of other people on Kerry's behalf ! I don't suggest any name calling other than hippocritical ! We are not the hypocrites ! Call and and call him on his lack of tolerance and speaking for God when God does not belong to any party !

[coreystone]

23. :-)

RAH! RAH!
:)
RAH! RAH!
:-)
RAH! RAH!
;-)
RAH! RAH!
;-)

Kick 'em back
Kick 'em back
HARDER! HARDER!

:pals:

Kick 'em back
Kick 'em back
HARDER! HARDER!

RAH! RAH!
RAH! RAH!
:bounce:

[vetwife]

24. Try this too ! I just did !

If you want to comment about something on MSNBC TV that you saw during the day or that doesn’t pertain to a particular show, click here: MSNBC TV.

[vetwife]

25. that didn't click did it.....Just type in MSNBC TV and it provides a click

[BurtWorm]

26. You have done what a lot of us have only dreamt about!

Good for you!

:toast:

[vetwife]

27. this is the truth..I do not know why I can get under radar !

I speak that language, I am from the south, I know how they are distorting everything and they think or assume because I am a christian and from Ga. that I automatically am a Bushie. they learned today, not all christians are for this rhetoric but I am angry with MSNBC for not giving that preacher a chance to respond and let MSNBC know that. Be BOLD people..If you have Faith speak up...Kerry needs people of faith to debunk this type of rhetoric ! The people who have drank the koolaid have been fooled !

[Terran]

28. Thank you!

You are exactly what the likes of Falwell and Robertson need to hear--a REAL Christian throwing the REAL scripture back in their faces. The won't listen to godless heathens like me. Congratulations, you are simply awesome!

[vetwife]

30. Here is the letter

http://[e-mail]

I am furious. I am a Christian and called Jerry Falwell for judging President Clinton.
That is not a Christian's job and God does not vote and is neither republican or democrat and does not belong to any one party. I will discontinue watching MSNBC if you people keep giving Falwell the last word. I will debate him. Forgiveness is our belief and he does not represent the Christian Faith. I am sick of having my faith hijacked !

Sincerely
Amanda L Kato

[goclark]

53. Go Vet Wife Go Go Go!!!!

I wish that you could be at one of the Kerry Rallies and speak about your experience.

This False Christian stuff they are spitting out is a bunch of crap!

I just keep telling myself, " God don't like ugly."

The Christian Right needs to remember those words.

[vetwife]

58. I have been to two Kerry Rallys but

if given the opportunity come next week I will say plenty when C-Span is out here,( They said they had an award to give me) I just hope they go live and don't tape it. I know them and if I say a lot it will get neither . I do plan on speaking out on The Falwell christianity or lack there of and the Bush executive order on ordering mental tests for all americans. What worries me is that I have not seen any tapes of any of the Bus tours of the C-Span winners but I am planning on loading the deck. Any Georgia Duers be here Oct 4th between 9AM and 1:00 PM. email me and I will give you the lowdown.

[Ladyhawk]

63. I wish you would talk to my family...

Way to go!

[vetwife]

68. I can

but I have to pay for it. Click on my signature and order that CD. Proceeds go here and to Guy James. Funny thing I am about to cloe it out because it will do no good after about two weeks .It is my CD Take it back ! I have to pay the same thing you do. I have cut it to 1.00 over cost.

[WLKjr]

31. Awesome!

Way to go, you spoke volumes for a lot of people.

:toast:

[mailman82]

33. Mailman82

Vetwife you are my Hero. Rock on!!!!!!

[vetwife]

34. I am just fed up..I am no more special than you all are !

[NC_Nurse]

35. Good for you for calling out that scumbag!

His self-righteous intolerant and unloving version of Christianity is a disgrace to the religion and those that truly follow Christ's teachings.

I bet someday they're gonna find a bunch of children's bodies buried in his backyard or something. All these RW fundie bigots have something they are hiding. He makes me sick! :puke:

[vetwife]

37. I call it like I see it and here is a

pic of me and my husband after I went after the City of Nashville that landed us up eating dinner with VP Gore. I deal and speak against injustice from these people ! And I live in Georgia. There is no black and white but there is Yes or No ! I got the hate mail to prove it !

[crispini]

36. YOU ROCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Behind the Aegis]

38. Ye without sin....

How come they ALWAYS forget that one?!?! We have Swaggart saying he would kill any gay man that wanted to marry him (as if!), then saying, "I was only joking." Now this!

I appreciate what you did VetWife and I wish there were more Christians like you who refuse to have their religion hijacked by bigots. You could start your own Reformation and nail "97 Theses" to the doors of Liberty University! Maybe call it "Christians for Christ!"

It is a shame that so many good Christians have to be branded along with those who are so hypocritical and blaspheme their own religion! The "right-wing" is a bigger threat to Christianity than anything else!

Again, great job!!! Keep up the work, I know you will! ;)

Brightest Blessings!

[vetwife]

39. Another site I built ..!

http://groups.msn.com/PrayforKerry/

[yardwork]

40. Dude!

As my kids would say! You just did a very Christian thing, at least my understanding what Christianity is about. You stood up for a man who was being judged, and reminded the Christians not to judge.

Thank you!

P.S. Better take your real name off the post above.

[vetwife]

42. Thanks Yardman but they all know who I am....C-span made sure of that !

Not only that I use my real name on Guy James, Radio Left and everywhere I call and its all over my CD. Thanks anyway ! Google my name and I get as many hits as just about anyone I know. Vetwife does too. Once you are out there..You are out there !

[indepat]

41. A MF hippocrite at that, in fact a GDMF hippocrite who epitomizes the

every attribute of the anti-Christ, IMHO.

[ikojo]

43. RIGHT ON Vetwife!! Tonight in St Louis is a meeting for people of

faith who support KERRY. It's time those of us who do have religious faith (Christian, Jew, Muslim, Hindu, Sikh, Pagan...whatever) take back the word from the pukes who have exploited it.

This weekend Jews the world over read from Isaiah 58 where we are commanded to take care of the poor. COMMANDED. It gets no more basic than that.

Oh the meeting of People of Faith for Kerry is at the Brentwood Community Center in Brentwood, Missouri. It's a suburb. The community center is on Brentwood approx. two blocks north of Manchester and Brentwood. Look for the Walgreens as the community center is set off the road.

The meeting begins at 7PM TONIGHT.

[knitter4democracy]

44. Just for that

I'm calling Focus on the Family! They all need to get it in the face! You rock!!!!

[Sugarbleus]

51. I'm Sooooooo proud of you Vetwife!...Knitter, do call FOF because

They are EQUALLY sinister in their religious/political machinations.

I've written to them AND the the La Haye family (Left Behind series freaks)

What a "freeing" thread this is! :bounce:

I am a Christian also...I call myself a reformed evangelical because I could no longer subscribe to the hard right agenda in that doctrine.

I was raised Pentecostal/charismatic....(ask me anything..eek) I believed that stuff wholeheartedly for YEARS UPON YEARS. I no longer believe it. I remain a follower of Christ and his teachings; I maintain a belief in God but I no longer associate with any organized religion. Maybe, someday, a place will open up for people like me.

In anycase, I too have the lingo down, baby! Been "dipped" and indoctrinated ("sanctified" lol) I can debate doctrine with the best of 'em.
As a matter of Fact, the driving force that caused me to find DU and get deadly serious about politics this time around, was because I was concerned about the "fake" religiosity of Bush. The first words out of my mouth when he got selected as prez were: anti christ
Those thoughts stemmed, naturally, from my religious upbringing..but it was weird how it popped into my mind so quickly. It was like an intuitive kind of thing. Whatever.

What I see clearer today is that Bush and his ilk are fakes. He's antichristian in principle, but not The Anti Christ, IMO. What stands out much more clearly is how much more Fascist Bushco is than anything else. Which is troublesome in and of itself, to be sure.

Nonetheless, the religious right have their arms in the political game up to their shoulders and it ain't good. The more powerful among them are giving christ like, loving Christians a bad name, and THEY SHOULD BE HELD TO ACCOUNTABILITY. I believe the scriptures give rights to believers to take disputes and "errors" to and about the "Priest/Pastors/Bishops/Et Al" and present them to the "body/Church" for resolution.
So, if you know your Christian history/doctrine, then please do present it to those Pharisees...those wolves in sheeps clothing. Those whitewashed seplecures whose insides are rotten. Remember it was said that the Devil himself will present himself as an angel of Light and he quotes scripture better than we do.... :scare:

End of sermon...LOL WTG VETSWIFE!!

[knitter4democracy]

70. Me too

My husband and I both were raised evangelical (Church of the Nazarene) and even went to a Nazarene college--that got us to change more than anything. Boy, when you have to sit in chapel three times a week and hear their crap over and over again and then take required religion classes entirely from their view of Christianity, it makes you want to run as far away as possible.

My husband and I went Eastern Orthodox, as we found that we need the liturgy, communion, icons, candles, and all the prayer aids the church has used for two thousand years. The Orthodox churches are far from perfect, but the theology is non-violent (maybe the practice wasn't, but that wasn't in keeping with any of the teachings) and the liturgy is amazingly beautiful. My in-laws can't even talk about religion with us anymore, they're so upset that we left their church (and they are the worst Republicans I know--seriously, they get the Republican Party catalog, for crying out loud!).

I hate James Dobson. He passes himself off as a doctor, but his Ph.D. is in sociology (not even psych)--and he never corrects anyone if they say that he's a medical doctor or psychologist. He's so wrong on so many things, but there are millions who take his crap as from the mouth of God. Yeah, I need to call him and let him have it.

[TrustingDog]

45. wow! thank God you're on Our side... :)

and thank you so much for all you do and say - you're wonderful.

[vetwife]

46. LOL You must have googled my name.........or Vetwife

[TrustingDog]

48. ? - I don't use Google any more - I Dogpile...

not sure what you mean, tho.

[DemonFighterLives]

47. I don't wear my Christianity on my sleeve

I did say a prayer this morning for God to help us oust this bunch of phony Christian Cultists. In some ways this is a part of the answer to my prayers. There is no way this crew is Christian after invadind Iraq and killing thousands. Christ does not approve of their message. Thanks Vetwife!

[underseasurveyor]

49. Right On Vetwife

That took some ovaries

[deadparrot]

50. Good for you!

We should all learn a lesson from you and refuse to take this kind of crap.

[Ilsa]

52. You rock, Vetwife!

:headbang: :yourock: :kick: :bounce:

[Cha]

54. "Took it out of context"..

BAWHAWHAWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHA:D

:yourock: You just did my fantasy! Thank you, A Zillion times!! B-)

[mitchum]

55. You are the greatest, vetwife!

I despise that grifter

[RedEarth]

56. We need to let Falwell know we are praying for the demise of his

ministry of hate......

[TrustingDog]

57. jesus would call him on his false profit.

[bobthedrummer]

59. God bless you for that, vetwife!

:thumbsup:

[roguevalley]

60. Damn woman. Consider yourself hugged. You are my hero. I hate that

man too for what he's done to our faith and to Jesus. HUGS!

[EST]

61. HiYa VW!

Sorry I missed your thread, earlier. I am glad I caught you on one of your calmer days! Consider yourself hugged. I have seen and heard armchair activists out the yang; you, however do take the cake (and welcome to it!) So dang refreshing to be associated with someone who walks the walk! Truly wonderful!

[Blitzburgh]

65. kick

[vetwife]

69. Howdy...I bet that bunch in Lynchburg was fuming...

You know I never talked any different than I did on CNN, or on Guy James and Radio left. I think that is what fools them. Lord help them if I had been on my rant of a couple weeks ago.

[Spirochete]

62. Yay, Vetwife!

I have another DU hero! Falwell adds extra dimensions to the term hypocrite, all right. Glad you got to tell him off.

[Ladyhawk]

64. You're my new hero! WAY TO GO!!!!! n/t

[vetwife]

66. Well ya'll having so much fun with this I'll put this up for ya'll this

happened last year In Ocotber. I sure get under the radar. Here ya go.

http://www.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0310/30/nfcnn.02.html



HARRIS: I certainly think they are and they are being very sensitive to it. They are very interested in our trip. And it was rather historic that we met with some of the women, since they comprise 61 percent of the population, how they were going to interact in the Governing council and writing of the new constitution.

But, yes, they are being responsive to the terrorist attacks and how we are dealing with it. They're constantly reevaluating. And I think they are going to have some different opportunities for the troops.

BLITZER: Let's take another caller. Amanda, go ahead. You are on the air.

CALLER: My question is for Katherine Harris. Did you get the opportunity to speak with the Iraqi women and encourage them to follow your lead in going into public office so that they, too, could disenfranchise voters?

...........................................................

She turned red in the face and Wolf looked like a deer stuck in the headlights and the Congresswoman Tauscher was smiling all but laughing. That too was a good day !

[donheld]

67. You Go Girl

:bounce: :yourock: :bounce:

[Octafish]

71. You are my Hero!

Thanks, vetwife!

Falwell is a most unctuous turd of the BFEE.



Ask blm: Falwell's taken a lot of money from Rev. Moon,
of all deities.

[BiggJawn]

73. You ACTUALLY got to talk to him???

I WORK at a college, and *I* can't just pick up the phone and get El Presidente's ear...Unless I'm rubbing a $10,000,000 cheque up against the phone....

Awesome!

[Media_Lies_Daily]

74. Hats off to Vetwife! Salute!