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Vox_Reason Donating Member (589 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-26-04 08:12 PM
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What if Kerry wins?
If John Kerry wins the election, where will be in 4 years? How will your life be different? How will the lives of people all around the world be different?
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donco6 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-26-04 08:14 PM
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1. I'll be able to travel to Germany again, without . . .
. . . having to apologize for being an American.
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Kierkegaard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-26-04 08:20 PM
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7. I'll no longer be embarassed
to be an American. I'll catch up on my sleep, too.
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UpsideDownFlag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-26-04 08:15 PM
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2. "what if?" nt
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Vox_Reason Donating Member (589 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-26-04 08:23 PM
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11. This was in response to "what if Bush wins?"
I'd rather see a more positive take on things.

Yes, we'd be able to travel and not apologize. Yes, we'd be able to work diplomatically with our allies again. Yes, we'd be able to extend workers' rights and make gains on education and jobs.

But what will that mean to you, in real terms?

Beyond ridding the world of the BushCo scourge, why do you want John Kerry to win this election? How will your world change as a result?
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sffreeways Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-26-04 08:44 PM
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15. The end to the tax cuts
Edited on Sun Sep-26-04 08:50 PM by sffreeways
will hopefully stimulate the economy again for my small business which was crushed by Bush's economy. I'd like to see the economy improve for very little businesses like mine,and I want to start another small business doing landscape design with water features but people just don't have the extra income like they did during Clinton. I was just getting things going good when Bush ruined it. I want to have a little space to breath financially.

I think Kerry will elevate the discourse again and perhaps things will become a bit more civil. I would hope he made this a priority. To change the tone coming from republicans by example.

Get the regulations going on the environment and I'm very excited about the possibilty for finding alternative sources of energy.

And I'd like to see the return of the tech sector. Technology is very exciting.

Stem Cell research advances, this effects me personally in a number of ways. I have MS and there is some promise for treatment in that area. Kerry can take the ridiculous limits off that were placed on the research by Bush

Crime get back under control

A discussion about legalizing drugs or decriminalizing some of them.

And health care, just the idea that he'll try and do something about health care.

Maybe civil unions for my partner and I so she could become an American citizen and we wouldn't have to fear deportation or permanent seperation.

The separation between church and state back in place. He would put an end to this funding of religious groups with our tax dollars. Curb the enthusiasm of the religious right nut cases. A climate where they don't feel so emboldened to spout their hate again.

Of course the war being fazed out. And it would be very importatnt to me to see America get some respect around the world again.

And no more fear mongering. I know a Kerry administration won't be engaging in that.

Since you requested a positive response I'll skip what I really think the Bush supporters are going to do with their crushing defeat.
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TomClash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-26-04 08:17 PM
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3. On a gagne!
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tedoll78 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-26-04 08:19 PM
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4. Well..
First, I think we'd have more support in the world pretty much instantly. Bush is a walking obstacle to cooperation. As long as he's in office, we cannot realistically expect other major nations in the world to help us in Iraq and in the "War on Terror."

Second, John Paul Stevens will probably have retired finally. He's 85 right now, and his wife has been begging him to step-down for years. Kerry has a chance at appointing his replacement.. and that replacement certainly won't be a Scalia clone.
(add the possible retirements of Rehnquist, O'Connor, & Ginsburg).

If the Supreme Court gets a 5-person liberal majority, it will touch virtually ALL issues in some manner. Controversial legislation passes? It'll end-up before the court. A questionable executive order is issued? To the court! And so on. The potency of this issue is not understatable.
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Maccagirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-26-04 08:19 PM
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5. Will it be possible to clean up the mess in 4 years?
Left to his own devices, I really believe Kerry would and can make life better both here and abroad, but the neocon infrastructure will have to be demolished for him to be truly successful. Can that really happen?
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dietdpfan Donating Member (347 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-26-04 08:19 PM
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6. People will get along better.
Edited on Sun Sep-26-04 08:33 PM by dietdpfan
Repukes will discover that Kerry has everyone's best interest at heart. The walls that * built up between parties, religions, cultures, sexual orientation groups will crumble. I truly do see peace in the world and in our own country with President Kerry at the helm.


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deadparrot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-26-04 08:20 PM
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8. I can watch more TV...
without feeling sick whenever * is on the screen.
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efhmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-26-04 08:22 PM
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9. You mean of course, "when" he wins, Right?
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-26-04 08:22 PM
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10. You'd better worry about where you are going to be in four
years if Kerry doesn't win. If you are in your late teens or early twenties, most likely it will be behind an army rifle somewhere in the Middle East or Korea.
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FlavaKreemSnak Donating Member (288 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-26-04 08:27 PM
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12. Even Kerry may not be able to win the war on terror in 4 years BUT

He will not make it worse like Bush has, and we will have more help from our allies. You know there are other countries who had business and investments in Iraq, and Bush has just stolen those from them. And almost either Bush or somebody in his cabinet insults somebody in Europe.
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BeatleBoot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-26-04 08:28 PM
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13. For Starters
Edited on Sun Sep-26-04 08:34 PM by BeatleBoot
I'll go to bed each night knowing that we have a President that is smarter than me.

Halliburton will be off the government payroll.

In my town, the police officers that were laid off due to Bush's tax cuts for the people making over $ 288,000 per year will be back on the streets.

Laid off Firefighters will be hired back in my town.

Our teachers will be able to stop asking the kid's parents to buy supplies for their kids.

There will be funding to keep my area's roads in decent shape.

That's for starters...


on edit: spelling
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BeFree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-26-04 08:42 PM
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14. I like that.."smarter than me"
Other than the fact that I won't be so worried about the nuke trigger being so close to boosh's hand, Kerry as president will:

Begin to reverse environmental degradation

Revive the democratic process of government

Ensure that America finally gets working on an alternative to oil.

Basically, I will be a damn sight happier all the way around.

Kerry is gonna turn out to be one of the best presidents of all time.

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Pegleg Thd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-26-04 08:52 PM
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17. If Kerry completely dumps
the patriot acts and the homeland insecurtiy crap into the toilet and flushes them I might be able to travel to the west coast to see some of my relatives before I become more crippled up than I am now. If he leaves this crap in my relatives will have to come to me.
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AG78 Donating Member (840 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-26-04 08:50 PM
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16. We'll see
"If John Kerry wins the election, where will be in 4 years?"

Listening to the RW turn the culture war up 10 notches. That corporate/religious movement isn't going away because Kerry might win. That movement got Clinton to go to Kosovo, and built our largest military base there. That movement is trying to privitize the entire planet.

"How will your life be different?"
"How will the lives of people all around the world be different?"

Not sure. We'll see how he changes the policies that control people around the planet(if he even can). If he does a better job with the lives of people around the planet, my life will be better. If not, then all of us human beings will need to change the damn system.

I still think this administration will do whatever they need to do to win again(I know, I know, they didn't "win". Well, they've been in office for 4 years, so they won). They're not here to have a good time. They're not here to play nice in the game of democracy. They're serious people, with serious goals, and serious means to accomplish their goals.
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flaminbats Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-26-04 11:04 PM
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18. America shall still have a two-party system..if Kerry wins!
But the most dramatic changes will occur if Bush wins. Social Security and Medicare shall be demolished, the constitution will be amended to outlaw flag burning and allow immigrants to run for President, and inflation will explode. The draft will again be imposed, unemployment will climb to record levels, and rioting will break out in every American city.

With Kerry as President no more terrorist attacks in America will occur, deficit spending shall decrease, and the war in Iraq will be over. As ironic as it seems, a vote for Kerry is a vote for less change. A vote for * is a vote for widespread revolution, more nation building, and increased instability.


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WLKjr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-26-04 11:09 PM
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19. It's not a matter of If, its when
he does, the darkest 4 year chapter in american history will come to an end.
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yellowdawgdem Donating Member (972 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-27-04 12:06 AM
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20. Plop plop fizz fizz oh what a relief it is
It'd be a feeling of back to normal, even if everything wasn't back immediately. tax cuts repealed if the repubs don't own congress by then; Patriot act mitigated, and hopefully reversed; maybe they can get rid of this forced psych testing thing that's on the table; and one of the best things is, that I bet they will stop detaining leftists at the airport for no reason. They will throw that no fly list into the toilet. Also, people will be able to do peaceful protest without being beaten and/or prosecuted. Just the feeling of normalcy would be fantastic.
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urbanguerrilla Donating Member (134 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-27-04 12:12 AM
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21. FOX News sinks in the ratings
n/t
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camero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-27-04 12:23 AM
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22. Me?
I hope to be alive. I hope the lives of the ones around me will be better given that Kerry will more than likely go to the left.
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bobbieinok Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-27-04 12:23 AM
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23. serious attempts to save social security and medicare, help for
disabled; teachers push to dump No child left behind with good chance they'll be heard

have a president in office who LISTENS TO CITIZENS
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bobbieinok Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-27-04 12:25 AM
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24. feel again that fed govt is a potential supporter, NOT THE ENEMY
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Endangered Specie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-27-04 12:27 AM
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25. Ahhh, A new one from good ol' Raleigh.
welcome :hi:.

As far as the question goes... I cant say for sure what it will be like in 4 years under Kerry, Id say the economy will likely imporve, perhaps Iraq will get better and our FP will make us a bit more secure, then there is healthcare, he clearly has a plan that will help more. I reckon itd be a helluva lot better than under bush.
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Kal Belgarion Donating Member (247 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-27-04 12:58 AM
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26. I won't be forced into the military (nt)
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-27-04 01:21 AM
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27. WHEN he wins, I will catch up on sleep.
Geaux Kerry!





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crickets Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-27-04 04:31 AM
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31. My thoughts exactly
I am tired of lying awake nights playing mental gerbil wheel with all the crap Bush has pulled on this nation and abroad. Good riddance.
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oregon_dem1 Donating Member (92 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-27-04 02:37 AM
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28. When he wins...
Conan O'Brien will be a lot less funny. Oh wait, he will still have the governator to pick on... ;-)
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aaronbees Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-27-04 03:19 AM
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29. If...
he wins, we'll still have the Constitution.
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KitSileya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-27-04 04:26 AM
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30. I might be able to go back to the US without being afraid.
If Kerry wins, I won't be afraid of visiting the US again.

My ex-boyfriend does some kind of intelligence analysis for the Air Force, and I know for a fact that everytime he needs to gain a higher clearance, they ask him whether he has had any relationships with foreigners. I'm a Norwegian citizen, and have been very vocal about my anti-Bush sentiments, so I figure I'm not flying under the radar - hence my nervousness. So, I can see myself visiting my friends (including my ex, who is still very much my friend) and perhaps even doing my doctorate.

KitSileya
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