As a Canadian

[Brundle_Fly]

Firstly,

it's so nice to hear educated and smart comments from all on this board about Canadians. I truly thank you, I am on a few other chat rooms where our reluctance to help out in Iraq, has been treated as treasonous from other Americans. Utilizing arguments of "what America does for us", how you could crush us, etc etc all coloured (we spell it this way) with fantastic, and sometimes very scary, disturbing threats.

You would have to understand, when we as Canadians turn on the USA news here, it is fascinating for us to see something so different than what our news channels bring us on exactly the same topics. The U.S.A. as the creators of the free press, (which we do truly owe you for) have really got to get that right back.

We don't get Fox News here in Canada, FOX have attempted several times to get the right to broadcast it's news here, but our version of your FCC (the CRTC) has said, "We are really sure its actually news." So we don't ever see exactly what you are talking about when you complain about it's right wing slant. I am moreover talking about your CNN, your MSNBC etc. they skew almost every political story to a point of

..I don't think that "right wing" is the right word....
(even if the eventual slant might be right wing)

incorrectness

that's the term. If I was to not utilize my Canadian or British news, and only watch the American news we are allowed to watch, I would not be getting the whole truth on pretty much everything that happens in the world and especially in the U.S.

I am very humbled to see there is a site like this of like-minded Americans, who can see the truth, and know of the problem.

I wish you luck in fixing yourselves in Nov. I don't think Canada can take another four years either, of you current administrations or news shows policies.

the best of luck.

and there is nothing bad about being Liberal!

[Eloriel]

1. Hey, there! Welcome to DU.

We promise to try to make your lives just a little better come Nov. Thanks for the morale support. DUers for the most part LOVE Canada and Canadians (as you have found out, I gather).

[nadinbrzezinski]

2. Now how do I start

You damn ^&*%^**76

:-)

So you will feel that nobody has forgotten to give you some love

by the way, I perosnally love the city of Toronto and the Technology Museum

That said, you are not mssing an thing from our jingoistic FOX and sorry you have to listen to our lovely CNN et al

Personally I miss Peter Masnbridge and CBC... I used to get it in Hawaii and no I am not going to pay MORE money to get it here in San diego.

Fact is, we want news we need to turn to foreign sources, including the CBC online

Oh and welcome to DU

[HEyHEY]

3. Didn't you see the sign? NO FLAMES FANS!

- Sorry, born and raised Vancouverite here. Actually chck out the Canada Forum they have here.

ALso, I don't believe the US is responsible for the free press.

Stick around there are tons of Canadians here!

[liberalhistorian]

7. Hey, HEyHEY-

I have to respectfully disagree with you on the free press business. The U.S. may not be totally responsible for it, but we played a very, very large role in it, including the popularization of the concept.

[HEyHEY]

10. Much if it started in France and England

Was my impression.

Also, if you're looking for Screaming Lord Byron in the future, he changed his name yesterdaty to mumbling peasant steve

cheesr!

[Zorbet55]

4. Fox News is not news

Fox News is RW commentary on the events of the day. Thank you for your support. I envy your position. We are poorly educated and soon we will be forced to attend Mass, and few of us know Latin. Times have changed here in the US. Perhaps, you can send an occasional message and it might make it through the censors.

[liberalhistorian]

5. Thank you for your post!

There are many Canadians who are long-time posters here (HEyHEY and Screaming Lord Byron, among others) so you should feel right at home.

I've never understood how some Americans can call Canada's reluctance to support Bush's policy in Iraq as "treasonous"; Canada is a totally separate country whose citizens are not required to support and aid/abet the policies of other countries, including the U.S. Then again, too many Americans simply do not and cannot conceive of Canada as a separate country, they think of it as simply an extension of the U.S. And most, frankly, don't know shit about Canada. Hell, they don't even know American history, for that matter.

Rest assured that there are many, many Americans, about half the country, who cannot stand the thought of four more years of this shit, either. I've never, ever seen my country this polarized before, ever. Neither have any of my elderly relatives and family friends, and it scares the hell out of all of us because no matter what the results of the election, half of the country will not want to put up with it. Especially if the repukes manage to steal yet another election, which I'm sure they've already put a great deal of thought and effort into. Yep, that's Mr. "I'm a uniter, not a divider" for you. I never, ever thought I'd see this happening in my country, at least not in my lifetime. SIGH. Americans tend to think we're immune from the problems and troubles that almost every other nation on earth has had to deal with. And we don't seem to grasp that what we decide and what we do as a nation has a tremendous effect on the rest of the world and that other countries have the right to be concerned about our policies and decisions.

[TahitiNut]

6. Could we 'offshore' our FCC to the CRTC?

Please? Pretty please? Pretty please with a lifetime supply of Krispy Kreme?

[countmyvote4real]

8. I love Canada and World News International.

I'm a NYer and have dismissed all domestic cable "news" as the propaganda that it is. DU, AAR and Canada's WNI are my major news sources.

Plus, if * steals (not wins, but steals) I'll be looking for sanctuary in a sane country.

[Brundle_Fly]

11. Vancouver Canucks?!!!

I think I meant that the Americans made it a RIGHT to have a free press, it's in the us constitution I believe....but I don't have a copy handy.

[HEyHEY]

12. pssst - up here a bit!

If you mean it that way, then yeah, I can give it to yeah....oddly for the actually legislation they have in the US protecting the press, their press still sucks ass.

Damn Straight GO CANUCKS!

[Brundle_Fly]

13. at this point its just GO HOCKEY!

I will miss my friend hockey, but I am pumped for the world series.

and the debates! even after hearing the complete lunacy of them on NOW last night.

[strategery blunder]

16. You are partially correct

Here is the text of the First Amendment, the applicable part of our Constitution:

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

If United States citizens want the RIGHT to a free press, they have to go and create the press themselves. For most of our country's history, we had a very vibrant free press, but the corporations bought it all out. It is the right to create the free press that is protected.

We do have the right to freedom of speech, which, in turn (theoretically) allows us to create a free press.

Oh, and welcome to DU. Something tells me you'll have lots of fun here. Hi from Missouri.:hi::toast:

[countmyvote4real]

15. Maybe they aren't that sane afterall.

Probably a hand/eye coordination problem, but what do these replies have to do with mine?

[TXlib]

9. Oh, come off it!

Y'all are just a state without voting rights! :evilgrin:

[whirlygigspin]

20. don't get too smug Canada

if you read a french paper in Montreal and one in Toronto, you'd swear you were living on a different planet too.

I think the best press (most objective) usually comes from outside, wherever you reside.

-The Ottawa press corpses and fart catchers on CBC are just as ensconced as any of the windbags in D.C.

To say that either of them have a vested interest in preserving the status quo by propping up the powers that be, is an understatement at best.

Rarely if ever do they serve "the public interest" and that, only if it doesn't challenge their "convensional wisdom" or positions.

Ignore the press truthseeker, for they are neither your friend nor your servant.

[Brundle_Fly]

24. whirlygigspin

noted!

[serryjw]

14. Many have considered Moving to Canada,,,,,,,,,,IF

we don't think we could take another 4 more years.They only way we get NEWS is to go to foreign sources. We certainly no longer have a free/unbridled press here....so much for the 1st Amendment. We did such a great of creating it, it's just one more thing we have 'outsourced.

[Huck]

17. I have been to canada once

i really liked it.
went fishing and had a good trip

Hi everybody!

[Bluebear]

19. Huck welcome to DU!

[Huck]

26. thank you

I am new to this so thanks for the welcome.

how did you get the picture in your message/

[Bluebear]

18. I love Canada, I love Canadians

You're welcome at DU anytime!

[Kanary]

21. Hi brundle_seth!

:hi: :hi: :hi: :hi: :hi: :hi:

Welcome to DU!

:toast:

Methinks Canada and the rest of the world may need to get together and figure out how to help us subdue the evil forces here...... we don't seem to be making much headway with it.

In any case, I hope that you'll add much to discussions...... your input is always welcome!

Kanary

[Brundle_Fly]

22. thanks all!

The CIA said that Iraq is in danger of a civil war....Do you ever think America is really heading that way?

seems like it to us, the rest of the world.

[Bluebear]

23. I absolutely do.

The Christian Talibornagains control the Republican party (see Falwell article from today) and seem bound and determined to turn this into a 'Christian' nation once and for all. Would you consider annexing New England? =)

[Brundle_Fly]

25. I grew up in Vermont

so new england and the entire NE is tops with me.

[Bluebear]

28. Where is home now?

[Brundle_Fly]

29. home is

Calgary Canada.

went scotland, us(vermont), montreal, calgary.

I miss the east.

[Eurobabe]

27. Canadians ROCK!

We have a couple in our family, and I have many Canadian friends -- the voices of reason. Welcome to DU, this place has kept me sane for a couple of years now (give or take a few loons!) :)