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Redleg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-23-04 01:42 PM
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Who else believes Bush is headed for a emotional meltdown?
Edited on Thu Sep-23-04 01:46 PM by Redleg
He is getting more irritated-looking, flustered, and mean-spirited in his "speeches" and public appearances. The pressure is really starting to get to him.

Spoiled frat boy Bush never had to develop coping skills and never had to solve his own problems. He is used to getting what he wants and having his family and friends bail his ass out of trouble.

I believe he is going to meltdown during one of the debates if Kerry hits a nerve. I can't friggin' wait to see Bush reveal his true, hateful, pathetic self to the nation. Yum yum!
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-23-04 01:44 PM
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1. Something is definitely not right with him
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MODemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-23-04 07:56 PM
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46. plastic_turkeys, will you please do me a favor for DU?
Since you're so good at transferring photos; will you please go to
www.bartcop.com, and transfer the one of Bush having the sweat rings
on his shirt? Some of his supporters are beginning to worry about him. I'm just not savvy with transferring things.
Thanks :hi: :thumbsup:
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Lady Effingbroke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-24-04 06:55 AM
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63. Is this the photo?


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MODemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-26-04 04:33 PM
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102. This is our "dignified" president?
What has happened to him? :kick: :shrug: :scared:
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theorist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-23-04 01:48 PM
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2. My girlfriend thinks...
that he'll try to commit suicide when he loses the election. Maybe not right away, but within a few years we'll hear something about "former pResident bush was rushed to a local hospital due to unreleased illness".
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Redleg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-23-04 01:49 PM
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4. Suicide by pretzel?
LOL
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louis-t Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-23-04 04:11 PM
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22. pretzelcide
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theorist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-23-04 07:09 PM
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38. He's going to murder a pretzel?
I thought it would be the other way around. Funny.
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smirkymonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-23-04 04:50 PM
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35. He's too stupid and cowardly to kill himself.
Maybe Bar will do it for him.
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Raenelle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-26-04 07:17 PM
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106. I agree. He's homicidal, not suicidal.
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Comadreja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-25-04 11:34 AM
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94. Death by alcohol more lkely
Anyone who thinks God told them to run and then told him to "strike Iraq" must be under heavy meds just to get up in the morning.


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politicat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-23-04 01:49 PM
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3. My money's that he'll seize on live television.
He has a lot of the hallmarks of epilepsy, probably petit mal. I would not be surprised however if he has a seizure during one of the debates. All that pressure....

(And yes, I held this opinion long before Ms. Kelley's book came out.)

Of course, epilepsy doesn't rule out general sociopathy, either... I've long wanted to do an MMPI on him....

Pcat
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Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-23-04 04:17 PM
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23. An MMPI?
Why bother? He's a 2-9-4 with high Mac Any other questions?
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-23-04 04:32 PM
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28. In simple terms. (junior throws a mean wall eyed fit)
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Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-23-04 05:00 PM
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37. The MMPI-2 is read largely in terms of patterns of score elevations.
The 3-point type can be read as a combination of 2-9, 2-4 and 4-9 types:

People with a 2-9 code type (elevations on depression & hypomania) are "self-centered and narcissistic, and tend to ruminate a great deal about their self-worth. They are likely to express concern about achieving at a high level but appear to set themselves up for failure. They show little respect for social standards and values, and tend to act out, perhaps by excessive drinking.
...
A pattern of denial may cover feelings of inadequacy and worthlessness....Alternating periods of increased activity and fatigue are possible. This profile is sometimes found among brain-damaged patients who have lost control or who are trying to cope with deficits through excessive activity. Many individuals with this profile use alcohol as an escape from stress and pressure.

2-4 type: Individuals with this code type may appear sociable and outgoing, and may make a favorable first impression. They tend to manipulate others and...cause resentment in long-term relationships.

4-9 type: ...exhibit antisocial behavior, have poorly developed consciences, demonstrate loose morals and fluctuating ethical values....They show poor judgment and may act without considering the consequences of their actions. They seemingly fail to learn from punishing experiences. They typically manifest low frustration tolerance, moodiness, irritability, and a caustic manner.

The high MacdAndrew (Mac) scale indicates a high susceptibility to addictions.
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politicat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-23-04 07:48 PM
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44. Call it idle curiosity.
EOM
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Ladyhawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-23-04 07:38 PM
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39. Definitely psychopathy going on here,
Edited on Thu Sep-23-04 07:38 PM by Ladyhawk
as well as anti-social and narcissistic personality disorders. The guy is nucking futs and will do anything to get what he wants.
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Comadreja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-25-04 11:37 AM
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95. If he implodes, it won't get shown
His handlers will make sure he's well-tranked, and at the first sign of a crack-up, there will be a commercial break and early cancellation on some bogus excuse.

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LisaLynne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-23-04 01:49 PM
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5. He's used to getting ...
his own way all the time and not having to answer to people. Remember his comments about dictatorships being easier and that he doesn't have to explain why he says things? To me, those comments were very telling. So, you're right on about the frat boy never having to develop any coping skills. I think you're exactly right.

It would be great to see him totally loose it during a debate. And by loose it, I mean just show his true self.
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belle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-23-04 04:29 PM
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26. Exactly. He's *fragile.* Why else would he need so much coddling?
Here's hoping the next few weeks break him...
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-24-04 06:54 PM
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80. Of course he hasn't developed any coping skills. He's never had anything
he's had to cope WITH. His EVERY blunder, embarrassment, and idiocy has been cleaned up, bailed out, papered over, or paid for by somebody else. He's NEVER had to pull his own weight, put in an honest day's work, or earned his own way. He's never had to face his own mistakes, or do anything that even hints at taking responsibility or making amends for those mistakes. He's never had to learn any lesson the hard way. Hell, he's never had to learn ANYTHING. It's ALL been handed to him. So WHY would he have developed ANY coping mechanisms at all? Never had to do THAT, either.
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ThomCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-23-04 01:50 PM
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6. Headed for?
I'll bet he's already throwing screaming tantrums. We just don't get to see them.
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Redleg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-23-04 01:54 PM
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7. Ah, but we see the results of his tantrums by the marks on his face!
LOL
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KlatooBNikto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-23-04 03:48 PM
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17. I remember reading somewhere that. after one of his so called
newsconferences the reporters started asking him questions, he shouted to one of his Secret Service people" Keep those f---ing assh---es off me."
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grace0418 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-24-04 10:16 AM
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70. I read the same article
Not only did freak out after he left the stage, he actually STORMED off the stage in the middle of the question. Apparently someone slipped a real question in between all the questions like "How did you get to be so studly, Mr. President?" and Georgie didn't like it.
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randome Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-23-04 01:55 PM
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8. I thought he was going to have a breakdown years ago.
I was wrong then but I keep hoping it will happen.
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La Lioness Priyanka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-23-04 01:56 PM
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9. doubt he cares about anything enough to have a meltdown
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the Kelly Gang Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-23-04 01:56 PM
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10. definitely is something wrong with that man..I bet he's on valium
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Vitruvius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-23-04 02:04 PM
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13. And every time * snaps, they crank up the dose & ship him out of town
Edited on Thu Sep-23-04 02:05 PM by Vitruvius
to his isolated ranch -- which may be why * has been on vacation for 40% of his presidency.
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vogonity Donating Member (283 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-23-04 02:52 PM
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15. I like how you think
I have posted the same idea elsewhere. I think that the month of August vacations are not something that he does because he can get away with it. I think that they are absolutely vital to his ability to keep it together. He is in over his head and everyone knows it.
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belle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-23-04 04:32 PM
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29. A number of political writers have said the same, or similar...
From Kitty Kelley to the guy who wrote "Bush on the Couch." He keeps to a very rigid personal schedule for a reason. His behavior has "dry drunk" all over it. And I'm not so sure about the "dry" part, frankly.
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-23-04 04:33 PM
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30. Yup. And long weekends at Camp David Sanatorium, too.
They adjust his meds and surround him with sycophants to give him his Narcissistic Supply (enabling - big time).
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Ladyhawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-23-04 07:44 PM
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40. Yeah, you're on to something.
I wish he would break down NOW before the election. It would save us from four more years. And if he does win the election and then has a breakdown...well, I don't even want to think about that.
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Ron Green Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-24-04 06:31 PM
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79. Whoa...that IS a sobering thought. Cheney would have the title, then,
and who knows where it could go from there.
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-24-04 06:56 PM
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81. Welcome to DU! You made some great points there.
And yes, he strikes me as a dry drunk - from everything I've read about it.

Actually, I hope if/when he does have a meltdown that I'm around to watch it.
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lapislzi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-23-04 02:00 PM
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11. The pissier the better
I want to see him come unglued right there, on my TV.

I love the smell of schadenfreude in the morning.
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Redleg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-23-04 02:03 PM
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12. Funny stuff- will the media even notice?
I don't get how Bush can continue the "steadfast resolve" facade. Doesn't reality ever impinge on his thoughts?
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Ladyhawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-23-04 07:45 PM
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41. Not if he's a fundamentalist. n/t
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vogonity Donating Member (283 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-23-04 02:49 PM
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14. My favoriite topic
Bush and his fragile mental health.

He actually took a couple of tough questions during today's conference, and not just from David Gregory of NBC. Did you see his sarcastic grunt when David Gregory said, "I don't think you answered the question." You could see how pissed he was.

I think his people have a problem, they need to find a way to medicate him enough so he doesn't revert to his nasty, nasty instinct, but don't medicate him to the point that makes him unable to be coherent at all. From what I have seen, he can usually spout out the one or two answers that he has prepared for, but then when he expands on the original idea two things happen: One, he becomes snappy and two, incoherent.

I am not sure that I would go so far as to say that he is using cocaine, but I did notice during his press conference that at least during the prepared speech part he seemed to be talking awfully quickly. I am convinced that prescription meds are a part of his daily life, and I ain't talking about blood pressure meds.

Do I think he is boozing? Yes.
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Redleg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-23-04 02:54 PM
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16. The good news is that when he debates Kerry, either the nasty
Edited on Thu Sep-23-04 02:55 PM by Redleg
belligerant incoherent Bush or the doped-up, sloppy, incoherent Bush will show up. Should make for some fun TV!
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Batgirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-23-04 03:57 PM
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19. I'd bet
his handlers are busy tweaking his meds, searching for that exact combination that, if timed perfectly, will afford a window of something that will pass for sanity and which will last for the length of each debate.
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jimshoes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-23-04 09:16 PM
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51. I'm guessing
Dexedrine, valium, prozac
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shanti Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-24-04 12:17 AM
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58. i'm starting to think
that the debates won't be held, they won't let them happen. can't see how chimpy could do it. :shrug:
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stlsaxman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-25-04 08:53 AM
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91. But can his handlers tweak his meds perfectly 3 times?
one for each debate? now THAT is the true test!
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belle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-23-04 04:33 PM
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31. With any luck, both.
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Redleg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-26-04 03:18 PM
Response to Reply #31
97. LOL
eom
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Ladyhawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-23-04 07:48 PM
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43. Or a Bush going through withdrawal?
I bet he has a team of doctors working to keep him from falling apart.

As I recall, Hitler had similar problems toward the end. He had Parkinson's and was addicted to...what was it? Something that is a street drug now. His doctor had to give him more and more for Hitler to function. Der Fuhrer's poor decision to attack Russia might have had a lot to do with his mental problems.
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Chelsea Patriot Donating Member (603 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-23-04 11:35 PM
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56. Hitler was behind crystal Meth.
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elf Donating Member (805 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-23-04 03:58 PM
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20. I thought he sounded very angry!!
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BrotherBuzz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-23-04 04:24 PM
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24. David Gregory could have shoved Bush* over the edge....
If he had only asked his question in French, I believe Bush* would have started talking in tongues. Hoot!

The guy memorizes four words, and he plays like he's intercontinental.

30 May 2002

President Bush's exchange with NBC News correspondent David Gregory over anti-American protests in Europe attracted widespread attention. Bush ridiculed the reporter, who asked Bush a question about the protests and then tried to ask French President Chirac a question in French. "The guy memorizes four words, and he plays like he's intercontinental," said Bush. "Sir, if I could just follow," the reporter began. "Thank you," Bush shot back, as he answered the questions and then silenced Gregory. As Bush stepped away from the podium, he called to Gregory. "As soon as you get in front of a camera, you start showing off."
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DURHAM D Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-23-04 04:55 PM
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36. So who would be the White House dealer ?
FBI, CIA, ATF ?? Seriously, how would Bush buy drugs? You know I read somewhere that Hoover supplied Senator McCarthy with the drugs he needed to sustain his attacks on law abiding Americans. I think his drug of choice was heroine.
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sffreeways Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-24-04 08:06 AM
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67. Fentanyl
Illicit use of pharmaceutical fentanyls first appeared in the mid-1970s in the medical community and continues to be a problem in the United States. To date, over 12 different analogues of fentanyl have been produced clandestinely and identified in the U.S. drug traffic. The biological effects of the fentanyls are indistinguishable from those of heroin, with the exception that the fentanyls may be hundreds of times more potent. Fentanyls are most commonly used by intravenous administration, but like heroin, they may also be smoked or snorted.

http://www.streetdrugs.org/fentanyl.html

Synonyms

codeine dependence
hydromorphone dependence
merperidine abuse
morphine dependence
morphine-type abuse
oxycodone dependence
propoxyphene abuse
tramadol abuse

Fentanyl’s primary effect is on the central nervous system; its primary therapeutic effects are analgesia and sedation. Other effects of fentanyl may include mood changes, euphoria, dysphoria, or drowsiness. Fentanyl depresses the respiratory centers and the cough reflex and constricts the pupils. Nausea, vomiting, and postural syncope may also occur although more commonly in ambulatory patients.

Typical side effects of Duragesic therapy include abdominal pain, anxiety, confusion, constipation, depression, diarrhea, dizziness, dry mouth, euphoria, hallucinations, headache, impaired or interrupted breathing, indigestion, itching, anorexia, nausea, agitation, shortness of breath, sleepiness, sweating, urinary retention, vomiting, and weakness.
Fentanyl is a central nervous system depressant and intensifies the effects of alcohol.



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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-23-04 03:55 PM
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18. When we send him packing in November
he will find it very hard to cope with. he will blame his god, and undergo a severe crisis.
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LisaLynne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-23-04 04:40 PM
Response to Reply #18
33. Ah yes!
If he truly believes that his god told him to become president, what will he think when he looses? Of course, he won't be our problem then.
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Ladyhawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-23-04 07:50 PM
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45. He might be a problem even then.
The PNAC-ers are wealthy and powerful.
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callous taoboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-23-04 04:09 PM
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21. Assuming he has emotions.
:smoke:
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catmandu57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-23-04 04:27 PM
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25. He won't hold up for three debates
I wonder what excuse his people will use to weasel out after the first. it may be a good bet to look for a trumped up emergency immediately after the first.
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UdoKier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-23-04 04:31 PM
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27. He'll meltdown all right- when he loses. nt
nt
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-23-04 04:38 PM
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32. Will junior float, sail, or fly?
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951 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-23-04 04:44 PM
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34. HE DOESNT LIKE SPEAKING IN THE PUBLIC!
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-23-04 07:46 PM
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42. Even if he wins, is this a condition a leader should be in?
:shrug:
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JerseygirlCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-23-04 08:33 PM
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47. I wonder if that's the one thing his handlers haven't really counted on.
They're very good at the attack, and have strategized this all, but I don't think they counted on their man's inability to be questioned. In spite of all Rove's well-planned dirty tricks, Bush may end up taking himself out yet by melting down at a persistent question.

Would be fun to watch, huh?
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vetwife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-23-04 08:39 PM
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48. I said his parents didn't care about him when they pushed him
to be in politics..They man is clearly disturbed and Poppy couldn't handle Clinton winning and this Bush thinks he is on a mission from God. Scary stuff ! I feel bad for any mentally distrubed person and think they need help and instutionalized.
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bobbieinok Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-26-04 05:22 PM
Response to Reply #47
103. WHO'S going to ask a persistent question????
all questions will be supplied by bushco and preapproved, no matter what anyone claims.. ...
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Pepperbelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-23-04 08:45 PM
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49. X-rated language but if Kerry would utter something privately to Bush ...
as they shake hands ... something scathing, obscene and that plays on his personal paranoia and kinks ... something like ... after I kick your ass, I'm going fuck your old sow of a mother in her ass ... or something equally obscene.

I think that would rattle Turdhead.

Sorry about the language but when the going gets weird ... you know the rest.
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RebelYell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-23-04 09:37 PM
Response to Reply #49
54. You're absolutely EVIL
And I love it!

Actually, that's a very, very good idea.
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Pepperbelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-24-04 05:32 AM
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59. Thanks but you realize ...
that just encourages me.

:hug:

I think it would get Turdhead to the tipping point pretty quickly.

:evilgrin:
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RebelYell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-24-04 09:58 AM
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68. I'm not against psychological warfare
Especially when the future of our country hinges on this election.
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SpaceCatMeetsMars Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-24-04 06:01 AM
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60. Or what if he said something cutting and truthful like
"You're not qualified to be here and the whole world knows it, so good luck, jackass."
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HEIL PRESIDENT GOD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-24-04 10:53 AM
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73. No
Kerry should say THAT on mike!
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belle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-24-04 07:33 PM
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85. That would probably upset Bush more, actually, narcissist that he is.
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HEIL PRESIDENT GOD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-24-04 10:50 AM
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71. HELL YEAH!!!!!
I'll be looking for the lean-in on debate night.

:yourock:

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Pepperbelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-24-04 06:21 PM
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77. Wouldn't it be fun? nt
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stlsaxman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-25-04 09:07 AM
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92. Kerry would have to find a phrase that he could say w/o moving his mouth-
with that brilliant smile he does so well!

If he did that and no mic picked it up and * is thrown over the edge- then W says afterward that Kerry said this or that to him to throw him off kilter- that would make W look positively double-plus paranoid!
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Eye and Monkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-23-04 08:50 PM
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50. Any day now. Hopefully on camera. On camera for maybe 7 minutes.
Edited on Thu Sep-23-04 08:51 PM by Eye and Monkey
Lotsa babbling; a few whoops and hollers; disjuncted punch-lines from a joke, repeated many many times; a protracted, incoherent rant during which he spits profusely as he harangues; staring and making monkey-shines faces into camera.

And of course - the post-breakdown Repundits interpretting for us.

on edit - I think Chimpie would probably also do the Chicken Dance. I mean, really DO the Chicken Dance.
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HEIL PRESIDENT GOD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-24-04 10:52 AM
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72. They would blame us
And accuse us of giving "aid and comfort" to the terrorists by upsetting The Leader with our very existence.
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ILeft Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-23-04 09:27 PM
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52. I used to think he was just an ass, but he really is losing it.


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belle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-24-04 07:33 PM
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86. God, he's a self-parody, isn't he?
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Johnny 99 Donating Member (273 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-23-04 09:28 PM
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53. He already has
I'm assuming that's one reason why he was secreted away during the Sept. 11th attacks - he freaked out and started drinking again. In fact, I think he's back on the sauce permanently, and he has very little to do with actually running the country anymore.
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sr_pacifica Donating Member (775 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-23-04 11:28 PM
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55. No, he'd have to be more sensitive to have a meltdown
He might have a smug fit though.
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JSJ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-24-04 12:09 AM
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57. wh's 'doctor nick' appears to be elvising his intake of uppers/downers nt
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Nobody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-24-04 06:34 AM
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61. He has an intense need to be liked
But he will never be the beloved dictator he wants to be.

This is why the right wing constantly whine about anti-Bush bumper stickers and signage.

This is why no protestors have been allowed anywhere where Mr. Thin Skin can see them. His handlers think he'll break.

Your assessment is correct. He's never had to deal with the consequences of failure. His companies went out of business, poof! He got another one to run into the ground. He's never had to see the people put out of work face to face or go down to the unemployment office as one of them.

He's never had to be told to shape up or he'll be fired. He's never had to lose his life savings due to someone else's mismanagement. He's never had to wonder how to include nutritious meals, rent, AND car repairs on a minimum wage budget. He's never had to have an angry customer yell at him over the phone.

He's all his life had people running interference.

Guess what. No more interference. Let's all try to get to a protest and do our best to get in front of the Boy Emperor with signage. Let's make sure he can see us and know that he isn't universally beloved.

Getting in the news won't be enough, no doubt his handlers screen it for him, telling him how good he is.
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-24-04 11:52 AM
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76. Originally posted by Nobody
...the right wing constantly whine about anti-Bush bumper stickers and signage...(and)...no protestors have been allowed anywhere where Mr. Thin Skin can see them...(because)...his handlers think he'll break.

Hey, maybe this is also the reason why the polls have been so weird since the GOP convention! He doesn't like protestors and he doesn't like protest signs, so his handlers keep them out of his sight. Why would they handle negative poll numbers any differently?

What if Bush is so convinced that his convention bounce is here to stay that Rove has had to put out orders to strongarm pollsters into assuring that Bush comes out ahead by oversampling Republican voters? It would certainly explain why the state GOP picketed a newspaper in Minnesota that had Kerry in the lead--it accused the pollster of oversampling Democrats!

:headbang:
rocknation
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Nobody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-24-04 06:35 AM
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62. Sorry, dupe. Please skip over this one
Edited on Fri Sep-24-04 06:36 AM by Nobody
on edit: deleted duplicate post.
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Justice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-24-04 06:59 AM
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64. I disagree only with you tense

headed for - no

had had - yes.

He truly believes what he is saying, and thus he has already meltdown so to speak - because he has disconnected reality - turned off the reality switch.
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PATRICK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-24-04 07:12 AM
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65. They are protecting him from reality
up to the debates and it is barely working. The hard work is even more devastating than any worries. He is still arrogant and confident but things are most definitely going according to what they had planned long ago. Their mandate and their Congress lock may be the first down the toilet. Which means more work or risks, less control over the future.

The personal attacks rattle all Bushes. They can dish it out but the mere truth hurts like holy water on a vampire.

Physically he is shaky. His mind may be going but that's always hard to tell.
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jjohnson Donating Member (33 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-24-04 07:51 AM
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66. Bush's breakdown
I think the dirty little bastard already had a breakdown. He's a sick little mama's boy. And more dangerous as a result of it.
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grace0418 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-24-04 10:10 AM
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69. I ask the universe for this every night.
Since people can't seem to believe a mountain of evidence regarding Bush's lies, greed, manipulation and incompetence...it seems the only way to get through to them is if he totally self-destructs.

I'm not an extremely vengeful person, but in this case, I hope I am witness to Bush going off the deep-end. I want to see him start swearing or try to strangle Kerry or start spewing racial epithets (or all of the above) and then storm off the stage and punch one of his aides in the face. That would be freaking awesome.

Of course, that could backfire too. "Oh, we must support the president during his time of need. He was there for us after 9/11, and now we must be there for him by giving him all our worldly possessions, tearing up the Constition and declaring him Emperor!"
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-24-04 10:54 AM
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74. I don't think he's headed for "a" breakdown
Edited on Fri Sep-24-04 10:55 AM by rocknation
I think he's headed for ANOTHER breakdown.

:headbang:
rocknation
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VaYallaDawg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-24-04 10:56 AM
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75. Wonder what the repubs
would do if Kerry rattled him during the debates and he actually started spilling some of the truth??

Hmmm.
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-24-04 06:25 PM
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78. Mean spirited is his comfort zone - remember the whispering campaigns
he started in college against students who embarassed him.
What makes me think he is rattled is the fact that he started fumbling lines about war, killing - not just stuff he doesn't give a damn about (jobs, health care)
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MsConduct Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-24-04 07:15 PM
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82. Not an emotional meltdown....
that's just the way he is, "irritated and mean-spirited". I think he might be a sociopath.


Peace
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-24-04 07:24 PM
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83. No. On the contrary I believe he is right where he wants to be.
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Redleg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-25-04 11:29 AM
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93. Really? Please elaborate on that.
Thanks
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-25-04 11:39 AM
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96. I think he is totally comfortable in an election cycle
The dirty tricks,the negativity,it all plays right into his hands and he (and the repukes) know it.They know how to manipulate and shape things too thier favor,something the Dems seems lost doing (this is both good and bad.Good,because it shows that manipulation isn't their bag,but bad because the repukes are masters at it).A campaign in the one area I think Bush is comfortable in.
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coreystone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-24-04 07:30 PM
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84. I've had it; ....
Edited on Fri Sep-24-04 08:03 PM by coreystone
I simply can't understand why anyone with their right mind would possibly escalate the notion that George Walker Bush is actually our "rightfully" elected President.

YES! I fully understand that there have been critical errors in the judgment of the electoral process which delivered him to us, but, do we really need to acknowledge any leadership in his "placement" as President, Commander In Chief, or, any other TITLE which he assumed when commandeered by the Supreme Court.

Do I think that Kerry is the "second coming" of GREAT LEADERSHIP come November 2, 2004? NO, but, it certainly is a DEFINITE step in a positive direction. I will vote for Kerry in November, without question! But, there is much to do afterward. We do need to open the political system to include more inclusive perspectives. I will leave that alone for now.

Our country has undergone a massive metamorphosis since the end of WWII. The American public are so confused by the media, the political promises, by the "spin" of governmental agencies..........OH!.....I could go on!

Everything that we are witnessing NOW, has been accumulatively collecting, because we have kept our "eyes closed", "our mouths shut", "our minds closed", and, so many forms of "it will get better sometime" attitude, that WE never realized that all of the warning signals over the past sixty years would result in the world wide "predicament" that we, and, our fellow world members could not imagine.

AS Americans, we are so spoiled! To concern ourselves with the elitist perspectives of the Bush family, is too look in a mirror, and see ourselves for the hopes and dreams of "unreality"! I don't know what "PATRIOTISM" is anymore. It is only word that is superficially being "spun" by the "politicians', the "media", the "ignorant", the "well programmed", and, only GOD knows who else!

I have pictures in my mind of those commercials promoting donarship to organizations that depict young children "swatting" flies from their faces. I sit in Vermont being ticked off by some stupid mosquito! I am well fed. I earn a decent wage. Those children aren't well fed, they could not understand how much Americans have. They don't have little TV's to let them know that there are others in the world that worry about the price of gasoline, the mortgage rates, or, anything else which may force GOOD Americans to care for their neighbors.

I am quite sure that I could rant on and on and on......

Vote for Kerry...no matter how sure you are about your state. Not because he is the solution, but, because he may be the direction from the obscurity which is present in the world leadership of BUSH!



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vetwife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-25-04 08:38 AM
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87. Agreed Coreystone...
It is our fault as well for not holding the media accountable. We should be out there everyday yelling our heads off about the bias and the influece of an election. We don't want to come out of our comfort zones enough but come Nov 3rd, we just might want this. Regardless who goes in.

The strange part, generations past if aware would never ever allow this kind of junk to go on. I saw on Sundance last night the truth about the Iraq War and my jaw dropped a little but not much because we all knew much of this. I virtualy marched, talked on the tv and radio shows, wrote letters to congress and editors but I did not physically get out there and yell to the top of my lungs. STOP IT !. I know people when marched in New York, it seemed to do no good but we are not marching where we should be.....At the messengers's offices and buildings. I still take my hat off to the ones who did march, that was more than I did.
The whole thing in a nutshell in my opinion, we are marching on the wrong places. Murdock, Clearchannel, CNN, MSNBC, and then on Rove. The ones who have the power to do something. They have not been terrified by ratings change by those who want change enough to change their opinining and ways. They all need a wake up call.
I don't mean harm ..but they need to be surrounded and told flat out STOP THE LYING !. They need to be held accountable. Thr blood is on their hands as well. The cheerleaders !
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catbert836 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-25-04 08:41 AM
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88. He started down that road after 9/11
God, he looked like he was ready to admit that Al Gore really won the election. Daddy, Dick, Laura, Rummy, John (Ashcroft), and Prince Bandar weren't there to tell him what to do.
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Snotcicles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-25-04 08:46 AM
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89. How would you be able to tell? n/t
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Ilsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-25-04 08:48 AM
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90. Yeah, he's taking a break at the Crawford pig farm
this weekend. He needs another dose of booze and coke to help him prep for the debates.

You know, it is best to both study and perform under the same environmental conditions and context. He is probably at the farm because it is hot and he can abuse substances, just as it will be hot under the stage lights, and he'll be on drugs then too to get through the pressure.
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Hamlette Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-26-04 04:20 PM
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98. won't happen
Bush is EXACTLY where he wants to be, in a campaign where he can be mean and a bully. The guy is a sicko, no doubt, but he's neither stupid nor does he not want his job. He truly sees himself as the world's savior,hench all the HUGE risks he has taken while in office (tax cuts, destroying environmental regulations, "freeing" the world, war profiteering). He did not play it safe. He believes the silly image Rove crafted for him.

He'll never crack because 1. he has no insight and 2. he has NO second thoughts. This "I can't think of a mistake I made" is not an act, he believes it!
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porphyrian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-26-04 04:25 PM
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99. I really fucking hope so.
Terminal cronic diarrhea would be nice as well..
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wickywom Donating Member (383 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-26-04 04:27 PM
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100. He's got Macbeth syndrome.
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BloodyWilliam Donating Member (665 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-26-04 04:30 PM
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101. I hope so.
I can imagine few outside his cabal more deserving of the pain and torment of emotional and mental illness.
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VOX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-26-04 05:34 PM
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104. If * wigged out, the corporate media would spin it as "genius"...
Sad to say, * has too many puppeteers, handlers and media props to actually be allowed to come off as anything but charming, Godly and determined.

The fact that this criminal-clown hasn't already been **excoriated** by the media after nearly 4 years of the worst presiency in American history speaks volumes about the right-wing state of things today.
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vogonity Donating Member (283 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-26-04 06:45 PM
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105. "Crystallizing his thoughts"
I couldn't resist commenting on a quick news blurb I heard over the weekend. Not an exact quote but from memory: "President Bush is spending the weekend at his ranch crystallizing his thoughts in preparation for the upcoming debate."

I wonder what kind of crystal. Heh, heh.

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vogonity Donating Member (283 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-27-04 12:29 PM
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107. The drug thing. Please listen to this audio
I suspect it might be bad form to reply two times in a row, but I didn't want to start a new thread and I would really like someone's opinion.

listen to this audio from the Rose Garden allawi/* press conference.

http://mp3.dubyaspeak.com/afghanarmy.mp3.

When watched this live, I thought to myself that * was speaking awfully fast. After listening to this again, I must say that the words in the first couple of sentences just tumbled out. Now allowing for the fact that the encoding the audio _possibly_ sped up the playback, this still sounds to me like a man under the influence of stimulants. To me it sounds like his rate of speech only slowed down between sentences.

What do you think?
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medeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-27-04 12:35 PM
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108. the entire press conference was bizarre.... n/t
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Paradise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-27-04 12:38 PM
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109. My thoughts, exactly! n/t
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