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Owlet Donating Member (765 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-21-04 05:31 PM
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No one will win in Iraq
http://atimes.com/atimes/Middle_East/FI17Ak02.html

"The stage is now set for another chapter in a showdown between the
forces of occupation and their local props on the one hand, and the
diverse forces of (religious) nationalism seeking to regain Iraq's
independence on the other. This means that contrary to some recent
analyses focusing on a Shi'ite-Sunni divide, the most important
determining factor in the war-torn country is, and for the foreseeable
future will be, nationalism versus imperialism.
There is, sadly, a huge prospect that no one will win in Iraq, that the quagmire will linger on, more people will die, and more "sitting duck" occupying soldiers, while Iraq's pipelines continuously get sabotaged and precious resources are laid to waste, emboldening those who dream of Iraq's partition.

In this nightmare scenario, the only potential
winner is Israel, which pushed hard for the invasion through its allies in Washington and the nation's think-thanks, and which seemingly thrives on the world's perpetual distraction with Iraq while its government continues with its iron-fist, expansionist unilateralism, both tacitly and openly backed by the White House and the US Congress.

Yet the more Israel presses on this war-mongering course of action,
trampling on the Palestinians' rights, the more entrenched, and deep-seated, the Arab and Muslim hatred of Israel, and by association
the US government, and thus the deeper the wound of the Iraq crisis
pegged on to the Arab-Israeli conflict directly and indirectly,
notwithstanding the Israeli army's role in training prison
interrogators in Iraq in "mild methods of torture", which is sanctioned in Israel's own laws."
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-21-04 06:07 PM
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1. in this case, the u.s. = israel
is accurate.
it's not a misconception.
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goodhue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-21-04 06:11 PM
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2. except the US will leave
the sooner, the better
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sweetheart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-21-04 06:26 PM
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3. Forget why for a moment
Going forward, how do we empower enlightenment in our system of
governance. Diplomacy with force must be undone by a ritual
behading and a standing down, a humble near-apology for the rude
warmaking, and perhaps with a good wind we can bring the ship
on to a course of international openness in a global unity,
not the oppressive military empire of a lone superpower gone mad.
For all that is decent and healthy about the american system,
kerry must win.

That is the primary root of winning the war on terror making mistaken imperialism and meddling in the inter-affairs of people
who are seriously pissed off. With a kerry win, we must humbly
stand down and declare an end to ALL wars, even the war on drugs,
and focusing 100% of the effort they call security on arms destruction, and downsizing militarism and the expansion of
the police state.

bwa bwa bwa repeat repeat repeat bwa bwa bwa

:-)
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Strelnikov_ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-21-04 07:04 PM
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4. The More I Learn, The More I Come To The Conclusion That Bin Laden
has already won.

We had a 3-6 month window to do it right after 'Mission Accomplished'. But our glorious leader, and the GOP petro-vampires, had their own agenda.



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