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trof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-08-04 12:54 PM
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"But he got an honorable discharge."
Most veterans know of guys we called "screw ups" who were honorably discharged just to get rid of them. It was easier than the time and paperwork involved to bring them up on charges and have them discharged as "other than honorable" or "dishonorable".


Is an Honorable Discharge "proof" of honorable service?
Not necessarily.

Convicted D.C. sniper and serial killer John Muhammad served in the Louisiana National Guard from 1978 to 1985. He was twice court-martialed, once for striking an officer, another time for stealing. He was AWOL and spent time in the jail. Muhammad left the National Guard with an honorable discharge.
http://www.niagarafallsreporter.com/gallagher152.html

And even from the somewhat out-of-control Michelle Malkin:
John Muhammad. The accused Beltway sniper and Muslim convert was a member of the Army's 84th Engineering Company. Muhammad is suspected of throwing a thermite grenade into a tent housing 16 of his fellow soldiers as they slept before the ground-attack phase of Gulf War I in 1991. Muhammad's superior, Sgt. Kip Berentson, told both Newsweek and The Seattle Times that he immediately suspected Muhammad, who was "trouble from day one."
Curiously, Muhammad was admitted to the Army despite being earlier court-martialed for willfully disobeying orders, striking another noncommissioned officer, wrongfully taking property, and being absent without leave while serving in the Louisiana National Guard.

Although Muhammad was led away in handcuffs and transferred to another company pending charges for the grenade attack, an indictment never materialized. Muhammad was honorably discharged from the Army in 1994. Eight years later, he was arrested in the 21-day Beltway shooting spree that left 10 dead and three wounded.
http://www.townhall.com/columnists/michellemalkin/mm20030326.shtml

WOW! This guy got TWO Honorable Discharges. This makes him twice as good as W*?
:shrug:
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July Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-08-04 12:58 PM
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1. Hmm, good point. How about McVeigh? nt
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-08-04 12:58 PM
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2. Oh and the other option is
Big chicken dinners, bad conduct discharges, they usually go to neutral and then good after some years
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rkc3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-08-04 12:59 PM
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3. This guy got TWO Honorable Discharges. This makes him twice as good as W*?
If he runs against bush, I'd vote for him.
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Nashyra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-08-04 12:59 PM
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4. He was able to get into the guard
because of his father's influence, so it reasons that he got the honorable discharge because of his father's influence.
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-08-04 01:11 PM
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6. The Peterism of America has led this nincompoop being in the Oval Office
Amazing..... simply mind boogling that they could con/scam/fool the American people to this level.


TO FOOL IS TO ROOL

America, we are being SCAMMED.
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agingdem Donating Member (893 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-08-04 01:07 PM
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5. .Talk about low expectations!
Reminds me of a lady commenting on a neighbor who was arrested for killing his family...she said "He was always so polite and he helped his mother with the dishes."
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Lex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-08-04 04:23 PM
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7. So honorable discharge means next to nothing?
Wow, I did not know that.

Perhaps we should try to wise up the press to this.

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coreystone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-08-04 05:02 PM
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8. Is there anyone here who would be able to find a "DD214"...
Edited on Wed Sep-08-04 05:03 PM by coreystone
for Bush, in its entirety, without any black marker blotches over any of the document????
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slojim240 Donating Member (481 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-08-04 05:40 PM
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9. Yeah, just another thing his money could buy.
How can people support this guy?
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