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WI_DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-23-04 11:36 AM
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Poll question: Best U.S. Secretary of State since 1969
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Davis_X_Machina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-23-04 11:50 AM
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1. Historians willbe kinder to Christopher...
...than his contemporaries.
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Zynx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-23-04 11:59 AM
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2. Who voted for Kissinger?
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ochazuke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-23-04 11:59 AM
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3. I gotta vote for Cy
I don't consider it my final answer, but I admire him for resigning when he told president Carter that the hostage rescue mission to Teheran in 1979 or 80 had too many things that could go wrong.

He was right, it turned out.

Wow, shrub ain't the only pres to listen to the wrong guys.
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PROGRESSIVE1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-23-04 12:07 PM
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4. But had they taken that change and got the hostages out,
that Beastiality Experiment know as Ronald Reagan would have NEVER become President.

I personally like Cyrus but he was a bad Sec of State.

Of course KKKisinger was and still is the WORSE!!! :puke:

And Haig is a moron!

And Baker is a thief!

Powell is no prize package either.

Christopher was fine. I don't see what the problem was with him.
:shrug:
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ochazuke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-23-04 12:32 PM
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5. Sorry, I don't understand
What change?

They did try to get the hostages out, you know. Cy Vance handed in his resignation as the special forces were on their way, I recall. The next day, the mission had been aborted because of dust storms clogging up some of our helicopters as they flew over Iran. After that, another 'copter crashed into our C-130 (or vice-versa) in the desert in Iran and killed a bunch o' guys.

I think all that made Vance look like a very wise man, sorta like all us DUers who said 'don't war on Iraq'.
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theboss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-23-04 02:33 PM
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9. My issue with both Christopher and Albright was the same
Clinton was essentially his own secretary of state. I never got the impression that they were really involved in any of the foreign policy successes those years.
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newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-23-04 02:21 PM
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6. Kissinger???????
:puke:
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GreenArrow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-23-04 02:28 PM
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7. Madeline fucking Albright?
Edited on Mon Aug-23-04 02:32 PM by GreenArrow
"I think this is a very hard choice, but the price -- we think the price is worth it."


What was the price? The death of half a million children in Iraq. (At the time of the quote)

I guess there is little other choice, given the prescence of Powell, Schultz, Baker, and Henry Kissinger.
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theboss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-23-04 02:31 PM
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8. Wow...that's a rogues gallery, isn't it
I went with Baker by default. Say what you will, but the coalition he put together in the first Gulf War was impressive. He manage to keep the Soviets/Russians/Whatever the hell they were appeased and convinced the Israelis to sit back and take SCUD missle attacks like men. Plus, he went to Princeton, which is my tie-breaker.
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