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midwayer Donating Member (719 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-21-04 06:31 PM
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My Great GGG Grandfather FOUGHT FOR OUR SOVEREIGNTY
Lincoln did not want this war, he inherited it

In the Civil War

He was the Chaplain of the 25th Indiana Infantry

Missouri, 2nd Unit into Ft Donelson, pulled wounded off of the battlefield and was in the thick of battle at Shiloh down through Grant's Miss. campaign and back up through Atlanta.

You can read his Civil War Journal here, which i personally have spent some serious time transcribing:

Here is his Bio:

http://us-gen.org/in/warrick/military/soldiers/heuringfredericka.htm

Here is my GGG uncle's Bio: (1st Indiana Cav.

http://us-gen.org/in/warrick/military/soldiers/heuringgeo.htm

Here is the transcribed Journal:

Part 1




He is rolling over in his grave regarding the current events in this country today, I gaurantee you.


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Bunny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-21-04 06:36 PM
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1. Here's to your GGG Grandfather!
:toast:

My mom's side has people who fought in the Revolutionary War. Props to the ancestors!
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midwayer Donating Member (719 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-21-04 06:43 PM
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3. Actually I have Revolutionary War Ancestors as well
They were BUMPS

They were forced from England because they knew the system was ONE SIDED

I now know

I am an ANARCHIST, my roots through and through

We fought against facism, monarchies and tyranny

and now they want to put us back in

after, we thought, enough blood was shed!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Apparently NOT
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midwayer Donating Member (719 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-21-04 06:37 PM
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2. F.A. Heuring Journal Part 1&2 consolidated
F.A. Heuring Journal Part 1&2 consolidated

http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/message/an/surnames.heuring/86

a better version of part 11

http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/message/an/surnames.heuring/86.1



Fredrick and George AND OUR CONFEDERATE SOLDIERS ARE

ALL

ROLLING IN THIER GRAVES NOW

THIS COUNTRY SUCKS
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midwayer Donating Member (719 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-21-04 06:50 PM
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4. Part 3 is still a work in progress
Edited on Sat Aug-21-04 07:13 PM by midwayer
IT WOULD DO GW good to go read what FREEDOM REALLY MEANS
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midwayer Donating Member (719 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-21-04 06:52 PM
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5. 1861- 1865...there are some real gems in there
If you just skim it

you will miss them

imagine being there?
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midwayer Donating Member (719 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-21-04 07:00 PM
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7. And the Chicken Hawks and New World Bankers can
KISS MY ASS

My heritage FOUGHT for my sovereignty.

IT IS IN MY BLOOD

CHICKEN HAWKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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joefree1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-21-04 06:58 PM
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6. My response to a conservative friend
She had told me that it was unpatriotic to speak against the war in Iraq. I told her that my ancestors had fought in every war this country has had just so I could speak my mind.

Used that a few more times since then.

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midwayer Donating Member (719 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-21-04 07:00 PM
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8. Thank you very much (eom)
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-21-04 07:05 PM
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9. Very interesting!
"The ancestor and the womb are the same thing." - H2O Man

" You that follow after righteousness .... look to the rock from which you are hewn ..." -Isaiah 51:4

"Awake, awake , put on the strength, O arm of the Lord; awake, as in ancient days, in generations of old." -Isaiah 51:9
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midwayer Donating Member (719 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-21-04 07:12 PM
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11. Many wonder how and why my passion runs so deep (eom)
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-21-04 07:28 PM
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12. In our modern culture.....
very few people take the time to think in terms of generations. And, although there is an upsurge in interest in "family trees," the majority of those folks are looking for some type of "royalty." I'm glad to see someone who has a pride in (and knowledge of) ancestors who fought for truth and democracy and freedom .... I'm very impressed. Posts like this are so interesting, and so encouraging. Thank you for sharing this very important information!
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midwayer Donating Member (719 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-21-04 07:59 PM
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13. H2O man this is why I am preserving this
for my children and grand children

like I say,

It is still a work in progress and I know of a book being written on the 25th as well.

His father before him left Germany, pissed off, at the German government to come to America for A BETTER LIFE WITHOUT WARS after what thier father's had gone through in

CONTINUOUS WAR since the middle ages and before

IN EUROPE

THE CONCEPT OF CONTINOUS WAR HAS TO END

WHEN IT BECOMES CONTINUOUS WAR FOR PROFIT

AND SEPARATION OF WEALTH COMES INTO PLAY DISGUISED IN THE NAME OF FREEDOM AND I SEE OUR Sovereignty being
systematically removed in direct contradiction to what our forefathers fought for

then...AMERICA

WE HAVE A PROBLEM

This seems to me as a continuation of the CRUSADES

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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-21-04 08:16 PM
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15. I published a book on the Irish stone-cutters on the canals
and railroads of the northeast a while back. I included information on my own family. About 15 years ago, I got a letter, obviosly from an elderly man, who had seen me on tv a few times. He said I reminded him of his uncle and cousin, who had the same name. Long story short, he was my grandfather's cousin. Grandpa was born in Ireland in the 1870s. This gentleman's mother had been the family historian; she gave him the family bible from Ireland, complete with "tin-types," letters, documents, etc. He was in his 90s, and wanted to pass them on. I was honored that he gave them to me.

Being a family historian is a great responsibility. Should you want to publish -- even in limited numbers -- let me know, and I'll tell you the best bet in the country. Highest quality, lowest prices.
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midwayer Donating Member (719 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-21-04 08:30 PM
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16. H20man thanks.....
I am due to contact a relative who is in the process of compiling an historical account of both the 25th Indiana and F.A.

I will contact you soon private mail regarding this so as to pass along the info. which may very well be helpful to him.

Preserving our history and ancestory is extremely important for future generations.

Unfortunately there are a couple of other sides of the family where roadblocks have been hit. But always searching

Thanks for you interest

I'll be in contact at some point soon.

Mid
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midwayer Donating Member (719 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-21-04 07:09 PM
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10. Ft Donelson is fairly complete
with the battle descriptions

Shiloh in part 2 still needs work as there is more in the journal not yet transcribed

Add Corinth and other Miss, Ala, Georgia details that have not yet been added.
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shraby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-21-04 08:15 PM
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14. Both my and my spouse's ancestors
came here around 1662, so our families go back close to the beginning. :toast:
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Yupster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-21-04 09:21 PM
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17. Very interesting site for this old
history teacher.

But, how did Lincoln inherit the Civil War?

There was no war before Lincoln took office. There was a secession.
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DivinBreuvage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-21-04 10:31 PM
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19. If I can speak for the poster, I think he meant Lincoln inherited the crop
of war that had been sown by Buchanan's pro-slaveholder sympathies (such as his complicity in their crime against Kansas) and his refusal or inability to do anything to quell Secession.
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Yupster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-22-04 12:10 AM
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20. I agree
that if Buchanon would have had a second term, there would have been no Civil War, just a peaceful secession.

Where that would have led is open to incredible speculation.

I've heard everything from a quick reunification to a German victory in World War I.

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bobbieinok Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-21-04 09:41 PM
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18. my g-grandfather was in the 11th IA and fought at Shiloh
His ancestors came from Germany to PA (one fought in the Revolutionary War) and then to VA; some of his relatives stayed in VA and fought on the confed side.
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