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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-20-04 06:28 AM
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DUers, we have seen real journalism in the last 24 hours: FEEDBACK TIME!
Edited on Fri Aug-20-04 07:20 AM by DeepModem Mom
Messages/contacts don't have to be lengthy -- let's aim for numbers, and make an impact.


Front-page, above the fold --
Friendly Fire: The Birth of an Anti-Kerry Ad
By KATE ZERNIKE and JIM RUTENBERG
Published: August 20, 2004

http://www.nytimes.com/2004/08/20/politics/campaign/20swift.html?hp

Contact the NYT:
NYT reader rep, Daniel Okrent: [email protected]
Kate Zernike: [email protected]
Also: [email protected]
Toll-free messages: 888-NYT-NEWS


MSNBC: Chris Matthews, "Hardball" (Swift Boat liars), Keith Olbermann, "Countdown" (follow-up), Deborah Norville (Chris Heinz,"Uncovered" re. Iraq)

Contacts: [email protected], [email protected], [email protected]
MSNBC FEEDBACK: [email protected];
to leave viewer comments, (201) 583-5000
Also --
Fax: (201) 583-5584
Address: 1 MSNBC Plz., Secaucus, NJ 07094


IN CONTRAST, CNN --

Link to thread on Thurlow/Crowley appearance:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x637044

Link to thread on Blitzer and Swift Boat ads:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=132&topic_id=637607

Why not contact CNN, suggesting that they take a look at the New York Times article to see an example of what journalism is supposed to be, and informing them that thousands of viewers, now that there seems to be an alternative cable news source other than Fox, will be clicking their remotes to MSNBC for good.

CNN viewer comment line: 404-827-0234 (leave a message anytime, or talk to a person during office hours)

Fax: (404) 878-0891 (ON EDIT: It's being posted that CNN has disconnected their fax.)

Link to CNN's contact-us webpage: http://www.cnn.com/feedback/cnntv/

More CNN contact info: http://www.congress.org/congressorg/dbq/media/?command=org_pages&org_id=554

Wolf: [email protected]
Candy: [email protected]
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Sugarbleus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-20-04 06:31 AM
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1. WOW...thanks for digging it up for us. WTG Will do eom...
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cthrumatrix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-20-04 06:35 AM
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2. obviously jaded coverage by CNN... let's tell them how we feel
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charlie105 Donating Member (408 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-20-04 06:49 AM
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3. I hope the change of heart at MSNBC is real. It's noticeable
when even the despicable Scarborough pretends to be offended by the swiftees smear campaign against a 'true war hero'.
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ibegurpard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-20-04 01:21 PM
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16. Check this out!
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-20-04 03:27 PM
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22. Oh yes - and these, too:
Edited on Fri Aug-20-04 03:29 PM by calimary
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DemBones DemBones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-20-04 06:58 AM
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4. Brian Lamb on C-SPAN is sounding very nonpartisan today,

reading the NYT article exposing the financing ties of the SmearVets. I tell you, they're having snowball fights in Hell today.
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Misunderestimator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-20-04 08:26 AM
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6. And pigs are flying over hell which just froze over.
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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-20-04 08:20 AM
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5. kick
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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-20-04 11:52 AM
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7. kick
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proud patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-20-04 11:58 AM
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8. Glad to help n/t
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wicket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-20-04 12:09 PM
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9. kick!
:kick:
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vetwife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-20-04 12:11 PM
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10. Thanks Modem Mom !
I got you covered ! LOL Good work !
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faithnotgreed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-20-04 12:30 PM
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11. important post - thanks for your work!
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Gruenemann Donating Member (753 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-20-04 12:49 PM
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12. kick
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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-20-04 01:05 PM
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13. I just wrote to everybody you linked - thank you!
It's important for us all to do this today. The freepers are out in force today freeping this board, on-line polls, and you can bet they are blanketing the news media with outrage over the "lies" about their beloved Swift Boat Liars.

Note - some of the links to MSNBC aren't showing as clickable. They need to be cut and pasted into an email address line.
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-20-04 01:17 PM
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14. Now THIS is what I LOVE to see! Thanks DMM!
EXCELLENT work!

Let's all kick this, and comply!

Just because we haven't yet seen CNN come into the light doesn't mean they don't know our anger is there. They do. It can't be ignored since Monday's "Project CNN" onslaught. Perhaps we need to launch a few more of those.

In fact, I saw, just last night/early this morning - a CNN anchor lady talking to a guest about the "Swift Boat Swifties" and he said he was BARRAGED by phone calls - his mail box was full - from angry people screaming at him for telling the truth (ie: exposing some of the "Swifties'" lies in their spots. I turned to my husband and said - AHA! That is a testament to the limbaugh/pox/rove/scaife machinery. They are able to stir up their schmuckheads to "storm the Bastille" against any and all truth-tellers, intimidating and browbeating them for following any other party line but theirs. Again and again I've seen this, where reporters said they got hate mail and angry phone calls GALORE, questioning their patriotism, slamming them as traitors and Saddam-lovers and Osama-lovers. The heat from that attack has an effect. GUARANTEED.

So what to do? COUNTERMEASURES, that's what.

If they can do it, WE MUST DO IT.

If theirs are the only voices being heard, WHAT THE HECK DO YOU EXPECT THE RESPONSE TO BE? To wise up and start catering to the people you NEVER HEAR FROM - and who, evidently, DON'T EVEN EXIST????

Well, we DO exist, and we better let 'em know how many of us there are, and how they are betraying HUGE NUMBERS OF US.

If they think we don't care... they won't either. ABSOLUTELY GUARANTEED. Take that to the bank.

WE HAVE TO FIGHT BACK. If we remain silent or apathetic or complacent or demoralized, THE BAD GUYS WIN. EVERY TIME. In fact they're counting on us to be cowed and silent. And when we are, we're playing straight into their hands.

Gotta speak up, folks!
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ibegurpard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-20-04 01:30 PM
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17. Better yet, watch MSNBC
See my post above.
Let MSNBC know WHY you are watching and let CNN know WHY you've stopped watching them.
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-20-04 01:44 PM
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18. Actually, I HAVE INDEED been doing that a lot more.
Hey, ibegurpard - first of all, this is a GREAT point you make. MSNBC DOES seem to be reporting a lot more responsibly lately. It should be noted and appreciated by all of us.

Second, I just called CNN. Veddy interesting. A) it took quite a while to connect, once I'd pressed 8 to bypass the recorded message. Then, B) when I finally got through to an operator, and mentioned the NYTimes article today, she immediately responded - "oh yes! I've heard all about it!" And I mentioned how often I scream at my TV during the increasingly rare times I tune into CNN - shrieking "WHOSE SIDE ARE YOU ON?!?!??!?!" I mentioned how biased Candy Crowley and Wolf Blitzer are, now shamefully bad their "journalism" has become, how their slant is SO clear and obvious, and how offensive that is. And I mentioned the unconscionable Paula Zahn and how I hoped they'd send her back to the Pox network - then, jokingly, I asked if I could personally help them do that, and that I'd be glad to take her back over there, myself." She laughed at this. I could hear her taking notes. I complained that I was watching CNN less and less, and found MSNBC a lot more reasonable and unbiased, and I also said I resented how they just REFUSED to give John Kerry a fair shake. Then, I complained that they don't ever clearly identify William Schneider as a right-wing affiliated pollster, since he's a senior fellow of the conservative think tank American Enterprise Institute. I said - AT LEAST, some truth in advertizing, PLEASE!!!! Or get a left-wing pollster in there ALSO, not just him alone.

The more they know WE know, the better, guys. First, they have to have this schmooshed into their faces. Over and over and over and over. They have to be MADE aware that we are onto them, and we see through them, and if indeed they're really trying not to have an agenda, they are FAILING MISERABLY. They're clearly shilling for the wrong-wing, and for the bush campaign, and for the republi-CONS, and it's just a little TOO obvious by now, and they are NOT giving the Kerry campaign OR the Democrats, OR liberals in general a fair shake. And it's noticed and VERY MUCH UNAPPRECIATED - because we're tuning away, to their competition more and more.

THEY NEED TO HEAR THIS OVER AND OVER AND OVER, GUYS!

I am sorry to shout. Please forgive me. But I CANNOT overstress how urgent this is! If we do it once and it doesn't seem to work, we can't give up and let it go at that. We have to do it AGAIN.

I mean, do you know a single kid who got potty-trained in ONE TRY? Neither of mine were that way, and they picked up lots of things quickly.
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NoBorders Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-20-04 01:20 PM
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15. Done!
Thanks for kicking this off!
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Robbien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-20-04 02:26 PM
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19. Finished emails to NYT now on to MSNBC and CNN
Thanks for the thread.
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-20-04 02:52 PM
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20. Hey, DMM - I've posted this info in the Five Star List in Activism -
just for good measure. I hope that gooses your excellent work a little.

Much of the info is elsewhere in there, but yours is nice and concise. MOST thoughtfully packaged.

KICK!
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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-20-04 04:12 PM
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26. Thanks, calimary! I've kept your amazing media list handy...
since I signed on to DU -- and used it often!
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Selwynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-20-04 03:21 PM
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21. Done with NYT and MSNBC, but I didn't see the CNN stuff...
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nostamj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-20-04 03:36 PM
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23. sent this (edited) to MSNBC and CNN (ha ha!)
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Dawgs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-20-04 03:44 PM
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24. Sent mine...
Great work. Thanks for the links.
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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-20-04 04:08 PM
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25. Hello, Dawgs -- thanks, and welcome to DU!
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Zorra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-20-04 04:33 PM
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27. Done - thanks!
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-20-04 04:44 PM
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28. You are SO cool, DMM...
:yourock:


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