Help me out here, why do people always say

[TransitJohn]

"Can you imagine what would've happened had Gore been President on 9/11?" It's like they think that he would've ran away, and given the keys to the White House to Osama or something. Whenever I ask for some sort of explanation, all they can come up with is "Bush is stronger." :wtf: Can anyone provide a halfway logical rationale for this question/interrogative statement/smear/myth?

[jeff30997]

1. Gore would have gone after the terrorists instead of...

Invading a country that have absolutely nothing to do with terrorism.

[2Design]

I think I would like the results a lot better that is for

sure...

bombing the hell out of the wrong country and putting people in prison who had nothing to do with 911 in that wrong country and calling them al gueda....is the work of a very sick individual.

[DaveFL99]

2. I enjoy imagining what would have happened

if Gore had been president.

[VolcanoJen]

5. Really? 'Cause I just get depressed.

:-(

Who can say what might have been, really? I'm absolutely positive about one thing, though... Gore would have never said "Man, what a lousy pilot!" while watching/not watching the first/second plane hit the first/second tower.

I just get pissed when I think about it, really. I still feel like our future was robbed from us, and we're paying for it now, and we'll pay for it for years to come.

[Sparkly]

3. I think it's an old stereotype

that Republicans are "strong" and Democrats aren't, and actually I think it's leftover from the Vietnam era. This is the year to end it.

[fdr_hst_fan]

4. I can imagine:

having been vice-president for eight years, he would have IMMEDIATELY excused himself and departed for DC just as fast as Air Force One could get him there! Bush is a Smirking Chimp, NOT a strong leader!



:wtf:

[denverbill]

6. In that case, maybe 9-11 wouldn't have happened.

In which case, the Afghan and Iraq wars wouldn't have happened, 4000 Americans would still be alive, 10000 wouldn't be maimed, and tens of thousands of Afghan and Iraqis would also be alive.

After all, Gore wouldn't have spent the entire month of August fucking off on his ranch in Texas. Maybe he would've paid some attention to the warnings of his terrorism czar.

[DeepModem Mom]

7. The media destroyed Gore in the public mind -- the Gore they think...

they know would maybe have not been up to the challenge. The real Gore, the knowledgeable, experienced Senator and Vice-President of the US we knew before the RW media machine got hold of him, would have done a hell of a lot better than Bush after 9/11, and we would not be in the mess we're in -- in hell in Iraq, and hated around the world.

[skygazer]

8. Perhaps if Gore had been President

9/11 wouldn't have happened. Perhaps he would have focused on al Quaeda as the outgoing administration tried to suggest to Bush. Perhaps he would have paid more attention to the ominous intelligence.

Yeah, imagine if Gore had been President and 9/11 had been just another day........

[TransitJohn]

15. Hear hear!!

Imagine the state of the US budget (for one example) if Sept. 11, 2001 had been just another autumn morning. ;(

[VOX]

20. Right on, stargazer...

Right on the money. :toast:

[KurtNYC]

9. Gore WAS President on 9/11/2004

Putting that aside.... He would have read the memo about "determined to strike" He would not have gone into a school room while we were under attack. He would not have ignored and lost John O'Neil (the OBL hunter). In short, probably 911 would not have happened and if it did our response would not have been hijacked by an obsession with getting into Iraq.

[Jacobin]

10. Here's how I always respond to that canard:

"Heavens, it would have been terrible! Gore would have probably hopped on air force one, skeedaddled all over the countryside hiding until he thought it was safe for him personally to return to DC, then he would have done a half ass job cleaning up Afghanistan, probably would NEVER HAVE EVEN GOTTEN bin Laden, then would have used the attacks as an excuse to invade and attempt to conquer a country that had nothing to do with 9/11, using 9/11 as a pretext, gotten thousands of our soldiers maimed and killed, lost most of our allies, and pissed off the entire world while raiding our treasury.

Man, I am SO glad Gore wasn't in charge on 9/11.........."

Stops them FUCKING COLD IN THEIR TRACKS EVERY TIME.

[TransitJohn]

16. Yeah, that's

what I usually responed with, but then I get my patriotism as a proud murkin questioned. I guess it's a requisite of patriotism that you kill ALL brown people.

[DoktorGreg]

11. I can't imagine and here is why...

Nothing would have happened, because Al Gore wouldn't have ignored the August 6th PDB, and wouldn't have spent the month inaccessible to George Tennant, because he was on vacation. He would have 'shaken the trees' and Richard Clark said, and they would have rounded up at least two of the terrorists on routine traffic stops, and they would have shaken out another 4-5 because of the odd patterns in the flight training of suspected terrorists. The remaining terrorists would have fled.

They would have to resort to attacking our military and over seas assets like they did when Clinton was president.

Instead, we have a guy who did nothing, upon seeing the August 6th memo, and no one in his cabinet recognized the threat. Never mind that Bush is too lazy to work, and spent the entire month preceeding the attack on VACATION.

[radwriter0555]

12. Considering gore chaired the 96 airline safety commission and WASN'T

being bought to invade iraq or afghanistan, he WOULD have heeded the scores of warnings that were levied for months -- if indeed any were to have been levied.

Considering Gore was seen as a clinton type idealist, I don't believe the so-called terrorists would have carried forth their plan.

[CBHagman]

13. "How clever to know something of which you are ignorant."

There's a line in the 1940 film "Pride and Prejudice" in which a snobbish woman says to the heroine, "I am ignorant of the particulars, but I know what he says is not true." And the heroine says, "How clever of you, my dear Miss Bingley, to know something of which you are ignorant!"

I think a line like that ought to be applied to these types and to Nader, too, who likes to say that he thinks Gore is a hawk and would have invaded Iraq, while offering no proof for that position.

What these people are doing is POLITICAL MASTURBATION. They perform something that's quick and self-gratifying, but has nothing to do with reality.

We don't know what a President Gore would have done. Has anyone bothered to ask him? Moreover, he would have had an openly hostile House and probably a hostile Senate, at least up until 9/11.

I always wonder if there would have been efforts to blame him, too, if a 9/11 happened on his watch. We already know the freeper types blame Clinton and that there are books out attempting to blame Clinton. We know that the Bush White House openly breathed a sigh of relief when the 9/11 commission report apparently spread the blame for intelligence failures around.

We know that Bush claimed there was no inkling that the attack of September 11th would take place, even though he received an August 6th, 2001, Presidential Daily Brief that had a title that read something like "Bin Laden determined to attack in the United States." We even know that the technique of crashing airplanes into buildings was something of which authorities were aware.

Can you imagine how the press woulid have been all over a Clinton or a Gore if they'd said, "We had no inkling"? Yet Bush makes that claim, it's obviously untrue, and he gets away with it. Hell, I'd put it in a MoveOn ad.

[louis c]

19. You know

I was so angry when Condi Rice testified that although there was an alert concerning domestic hijackings "no one could have ever imagined that anybody would use an airplane as a weapon."

I screamed at the TV, "Haven't you ever heard of F**king Kamikazes?"

I guess no one but my wife heard me.

[noiretextatique]

14. i can imagine that it wouldn't have happened

if bush, inc hadn't stolen the election.

[louis c]

17. How about this answer

since no one is clairvoyant, Gore's reaction is a matter of opinion. My opinion is that Gore would have prevented it, just like the millennium plot was prevented in 2000 by a higher alert among the intel groups. The same evidence Bush & Co. ignored would have percolated to the top with a hands on guy like Gore. Your opinion may be different than mine, but it is still an opinion.

Unfortunately for Bush, hindsight is 20/20, and he didn't prevent the disaster of 9/11. In fact he has been a failure at everything he has done. Jobs, the Economy, the Deficit, the War in Iraq, and even the War on Terror.

I don't know how Gore would have done as President. I, like you, can only speculate. I don't know how good a President John Kerry will make. I, like you, can only speculate. But Bush, on the other hand, can be judged by his record. His record can only be determined to be an abject failure on all counts.

[ClassWarrior]

18. Just say, "How could 9/11 have been worse?"

It puts the blame for that horrid event squarely back in Chimpy's lap as he sat in the Booker School classroom.

[VOX]

21. Oh, yeah, we were so *lucky* to have BushCo in power on 9/11...

We *only* lost 3,000 people; our "president" didn't scare those kids in the classroom; we got all those bin Ladens safely out of the U.S.; and the next day Rummy was getting fired up about Saddam and Iraq (per the PNAC agenda); then * basically flipped off the UN and the entire global community to get to Saddam, instead of going after bin Laden.

Yeah, thank GOD Gore wasn't there -- 9/11 might not have happened at all! *sarcasm OFF*

[ClassWarrior]

22. Nice.

[TheCentepedeShoes]

23. He wouldn't have played

"cowboy" on his "ranch." He would have dealt with things (the economy, terrorist threats, et al) as they are in the real world.

[tom_paine]

24. Asking logic from Nazi, Soviet or Bushevik Propaganda

is a mistake.

Totalitarian Lies are always the OPPOSITE of logic and do not have to make sense to move the Totalitarian Followers.

Hope that clears it up.

[ClassWarrior]

25. We're not talking about logic here.

We're talking about people parroting talking points without thinking, and by pricking them with the pin of truth, we can deflate them. We just have to speak up.

[TransitJohn]

26. Alright everyone

I guess that it's pointless to try to figure out what is (not) going on in someone's mind when they spout that line. It just is maddenning to hear it over and over. I live in a staunch repub state, so I get to hear it all the time. At least I live where the University is, and we have an active antiwar movement, and much awareness.

Stand Up For Peace Wyoming!

http://www.sufpw.org/