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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-18-04 05:09 PM
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Bush to cut Indian Housing
Did I miss this article? Should have known, Bush speaks to Native Americans, cuts their programs. It's too predictable.

THE NATION
Bush to Cut Indian Housing He Praised
The program the president lauded at a campaign stop in New Mexico will see its funding sharply reduced in his budget.
From Associated Press

August 14, 2004

ALBUQUERQUE — The U.S. Department of Housing and Urban Development plans to cut the budget of an American Indian housing program praised by President Bush during a campaign stop here this week.

~snip

Bush, during a speech Wednesday in Albuquerque, praised the program as making the American dream available to all.

He did not mention plans to cut its money.

"Doesn't it make sense to have public policy aimed at helping people own their own home?" Bush told a crowd of about 1,000. "I can't think of a better use of resources."

http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-hud14aug14,1,2739018.story
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hatrack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-18-04 05:12 PM
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1. Boy, what a shocker!
Who could imagine that a president running for election would allow something like this to happen. Why, if President Bush only knew what those heartless bureaucrats were up to . . . :puke:
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soothsayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-18-04 05:17 PM
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2. just treating them as a sovereign entity, like he said n/t
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neuvocat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-18-04 05:26 PM
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3. Yep, like an enemy of the state.
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no_hypocrisy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-18-04 05:34 PM
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4. This guy is the Angel of Death whenever he shows up, huh?
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Zorra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-18-04 06:06 PM
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10. LOL. That's a fact.
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Lovecrafty Donating Member (367 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-18-04 05:48 PM
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5. As a member of the Choctaw Nation I can say...
...that Bush does NOT have the Native American vote..never did! We here at the Choctaw Nation endorse John Kerry as President. Of course this is "unofficial", but speaking with tribal members at a recent Pow-wow in Atoka I can assure all Du'ers that Kerry is our man! Speaking to members of other tribes via the internet has only confirmed the Native American stance.
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Dob Bole Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-18-04 05:52 PM
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6. Osiyo! As a wannabe Cherokee....
It sucks. I can't be allowed membership anyway, because I can't prove my blood quantum to the government.
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-18-04 06:00 PM
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7. A bush visit may be the kiss of death
About six weeks after Bush visited a youth opportunity center in North Portland, his administration submitted it on a list of programs cut from the budget:

Student Jesse McDaniel remembers Bush's words of encouragement when he visited the Youth Opportunity Center. Now, McDaniel can't believe the Bush Administration wants to cut the center's funding.

"I was like, 'How could you come visit here if you're going to do that?"' said McDaniel, a once-homeless youth who says the program helped him get back into school.

Bush briefly visited the center in Northeast Portland on Jan. 5 and reiterated the need for a federal economic stimulus package - (READ TAX CUTS FOR THE WEALTHY) particularly for a state with the highest unemployment rate in the nation.

"That visit, to me, was a commitment to work force activities in the state of Oregon,” said Margaret Carter, president of the Urban League of Portland and a Democratic state senator. “For him to go back and renege on what his visit said seems to be talking out of both sides of his mouth.”

Or speaking with a forked tongue.

http://portland.indymedia.org/en/2002/02/7064.shtml
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Libralabrat Donating Member (25 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-18-04 06:02 PM
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8. Did it to the Military, why not the indians?
He put off base closures and reductions in the military housing budget only after an outcry from members of congress and senate....Of course, we all know how Bush supports our troops.
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stevedeshazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-18-04 06:53 PM
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15. I remember that very well
Kind of like this week when he showed up at Terminal 6 for one of his phony photo ops, the same day a major shipping line announced they were pulling out of town.
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Spinzonner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-18-04 06:05 PM
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9. Sort of "Damned by Feint Praise"
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Zorra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-18-04 06:12 PM
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11. Sovurnity means sovurnity and sovurn means sovurn. Sumthin that's
Edited on Wed Aug-18-04 06:13 PM by Zorra
got sovurnity means it's sovurn.

(Karl, dammit Karl, my earpiece ain't workin' again. How'm I gonna lie to these injuns and sound like I know what I'm talkin' about if nobody tells me what to say?)
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Cobia Donating Member (146 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-18-04 06:16 PM
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12. Sorry but Indians are subject to US laws like everyone else
They have no soverignty except to build casinos.
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Libralabrat Donating Member (25 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-18-04 06:20 PM
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13. Do you actually know any indians?
I know many that dont live and work at casinos. This was just another example in a long line of the Great White Father lying to the indians.
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Zorra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-18-04 06:24 PM
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14. Really? Head on up to the rez and announce that in the Warbonnet
tavern on a Saturday night. Say "Indians have no sovereignity" real loud so everyone can hear you.

Some folks I know might take serious issue with that. It might lead to a very enlightening "debate".

Friday, August 13, 2004
Bush's comment on tribal sovereignty creates a buzz
By LEWIS KAMB
SEATTLE POST-INTELLIGENCER REPORTER
snip-------
Speaking at the Unity: Journalists of Color convention in Washington, D.C., last Friday, President Bush, responding to a question about what tribal sovereignty meant in the 21st century, said: "Tribal sovereignty means just that; it's sovereign. You're a -- you've been given sovereignty, and you're viewed as a sovereign entity."

To many Native Americans -- and Democrats, alike -- the president's answer spoke volumes about what they see as his ignorance of Indian issues. And to many, the operative word in Bush's response was the verb "given."

As the continent's first societies, American Indian tribes hold their status as sovereign nations with an almost sacred reverence; an inherent standing as self-governing, independent bodies dating back millennia, something that's always existed.

Sovereignty is "the nearest and dearest, No. 1 issue in Indian Country," said Jacqueline Johnson, executive director of the Washington, D.C.-based National Congress of American Indians. "It's not something that was given to us. As tribes, we see sovereignty as something we've always had."

http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/local/186171_bushtribes13.html
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stevedeshazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-18-04 06:56 PM
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16. You're a winner!
Most ignorant post of the day. Congratulations!
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-18-04 09:31 PM
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19. Took the words right out of my mouth!!
That we all share the same planet.. how can it be???
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Sugarbleus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-18-04 11:01 PM
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21. ROFL!!!
I'll drink to that :beer:
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K-W Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-18-04 11:03 PM
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22. Yah, I mean they all immigrated here right?
Some posts just make my head spin.
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AntiCoup2K4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-18-04 06:58 PM
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17. Send Junior up to Pine Ridge for a week or two
preferrably without Secret Service ;)

We'll see what he has to say then......
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tlcandie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-18-04 06:58 PM
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18. So we are going to take away, yet again, what they already do not have?!
Edited on Wed Aug-18-04 07:01 PM by tlcandie
Reservations are soooooooo very depressing!!! It is an embarassment to this country to continue allowing them to live in the conditions they are subjected to day in and day out!

EDIT: We've taken everything away from them but the worst of lands and given them nothing but shame, humiliation, and sickness in return. :cry:
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lanparty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-18-04 10:44 PM
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20. Bush: The DUMB REAPER!!!!

Yes, everything he praises turns to shit. Every factory he visits closes down.

If you have a nice program, do EVERYTHING you can to stay out of Bush's crosshairs. If he swings in and praises you during a photo-op, you're funding is toast.

Personally, I think it's just one big joke to the DUMB REAPER. He gets to praise things publicly, get his touchy fealy photo-op and THEN cut the program. This must be irresistable to a sadistic sense of humor like that of Bush.



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Sugarbleus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-18-04 11:22 PM
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23. In any tribal language how would you say: KISS OF DEATH
I'm so pissed to hear about this. I'm hearing about more and more disturbing/disruptive/dishonest things, every few months, that are happening to our Precious Native Americans. Can we not leave any nation alone!!??!! If we can't help then don't harm.

My two youngest grandchildren's paternal grandparents are from the Souix Nation. I've had deeply moving experiences while learning about their heritage (along with other tribal histories), attending ceremonies etc.

What a magnificent world/culture....let us not continue to try to hold them down or rob them of their rightful ambitions.

~~~~Peace~~
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