The Dallas Peace Center is: islamo-fascist sympathizers

[anarchy1999]

"Operation Halliburton Defense Force

The Dallas chapter of ProtestWarrior decided to teach the local islamo-fascist sympathizers a lesson on free speech, sending them into a panic."

http://hq.protestwarrior.com/?page=/featured/Dallas/halliburton_defense_force.php


This group is more frightening than Neo-Nazis. Welcome home to DALLAS.

[Fenris]

1. American brownshirts

These people are lower than the garbage of humanity. They're the shit of humanity.

[fudge stripe cookays]

2. Ignorant pieces of shit.

We'll try to make it out this week, sweetie.

I need to know where to park and all...send me a PM, K?

[smirkymonkey]

3. How do sane people live in Texas?

It must be a heroic effort.

[anarchy1999]

4. Sane people are all looking for ways out. There is no sanity here.

Sanity is only to be found in friends like FSC and many others here and at other places trying to make a difference. The reality of it all is though, in Texas there is no difference to be made. Sorry if I sound negative, I don't mean to be. It just seems to be the reality of our situation on a daily basis.

BeHereNow, where are you? Just when we need you most!

[fudge stripe cookays]

30. It's really hard sometimes.

But I feel like I can do more good here than I could living in someplace like Seattle or San Fran.

I guess it keeps me on my toes. I think I'd be much more complacent somewhere like that.

It keeps me constantly angry, constantly working for change. But it could be doing some heart damage too. I'm trying to lay off the junk food lately, be a little more active, and get more exercise so I don't becaome ineffective from all the stress.

With good friends down here like ginbarn, derby, the anarchies, crispini, and tons of others, we do just fine. Until I made all these friends through volunteering, things were pretty bleak. It's nice to have some solidarity.

[derby378]

40. Very good points

I'd love to see Air America broadcasting on an AM station here in Dallas instead of scooping up yet another station in a liberal stronghold. We got plenty of AM right-wing stations here; the glut and market forces predict one of them will have to sell before too long. Guess who could buy the license? (Al? Kathryn? Randi? Any of you from AAR paying attention?)

[Cat Atomic]

5. They aren't frightening at all.

If they had any guts they'd be in Iraq right now, putting their asses where their ideology is. But they aren't in Iraq.

They're chickenshits.

[anarchy1999]

7. Sorry, whoever you are. The people we have to meet every Friday are a

very scary bunch of people. It takes me way too far back in history to feel comfortable. Germany is what it is like and is what to come. Those that don't know their history are doomed to repeat it.

[Cat Atomic]

23. I don't know my history because I'm not afraid of the

"Protest Warriors"? Sorry, whoever you are- but if you're going to get scared every time some loudmouth Limbaugh fan makes an ass of himself, you're going to spend alot of time being scared.

[anarchy1999]

27. Out of line, period. You are not here.

What part of the country are you in? If you are any where near Dallas come and join in the fun, Braveheart.

[Cat Atomic]

41. Honestly, anarchy

I didn't realize that was you out there. I'm in California as a matter of fact, and though Orange County is a thoroughly Republican area, and we get our fair share of jerks when we're out there, I'm sure it's nothing like Texas.

I saw that this was another thread about Protest Warriors, and got annoyed, to be honest. We've got them out here, too- and they're a bunch of ignorant, asshole bullies who get cheered on by the local talk radio guys. They want you to be scared.

So I apologize. I thought you were just generally cringing at the existence of these "Protest Warriors", and not actually facing them yourself. That's a very different prospect, I know. Keep up the good work and good luck. :)

[anarchy1999]

47. Thanks, I used to live in Orange County many years ago. It was a

special place way back when. (1980)

Laguana was my favorite escape.

[fudge stripe cookays]

29. Mighty cocky aren't ya?

You forget. Guns are legal to carry here in Texas.

These people at the Peace Center are BRAVE. Sure-- doing this in California or Massachusetts or one of the liberal hotbeds is really easy.

We're despised here in Texas for a reason, Cat. And it's the idiots we're fighting that are the cause. There are more of them than there are of us.

Have you seen all the Texas threads where people want Texas to secede and try to make those of living here feel like fools, even though we're just as good of liberals as the rest of you?

You come down here and try to peacefully hold signs and make a point while a bunch of freepers try to egg you into a confrontation so you can get arrested and they'll come out smelling like a rose. Anyone who knows me knows I don't scare easily. But these people give me the creeps.

They are not normal. They're huge bubbas with gun permits and belt buckles bigger than their heads trying to intimidate you and shut you up. And leaving the demonstration, they'd just as soon run you off the road as look at you.

The freepers we have down here are slimy as rattlesnakes and just as mean. You can give anarchy1999 advice when you've stood on that corner with her and endured what they have to for even one evening.

[anarchy1999]

33. Thanks for the kind words FSC, It isn't just us, we play a very small

part. There are many more brave souls in this town doing far, far more. And yes, this group of "morans" are just damn scary. Just check in to the Hate/Talk Radio. Once again, thanks and are you guys still in for Mideast dinner. I forgot to mention, AliBaba has a new place on North Preston road, we had our wedding dinner there a couple of years ago. They are the best. Think we could get GinBarn and Derby there? I think with planning we could Gary and his wife there as well and maybe a few others. What do you think?

[fudge stripe cookays]

45. That would be great.

I think that Gin may be a bit busy right now though. My Pro-Choice party is Saturday morning, so I've been a bit stressed about that. Carol is bringing their daughter, and maybe a niece.

Would you like to try to contact them beforehand-- I don't have her number on me; I'll see if we can make it out Friday and maybe go grab some grub afterward.

[jukes]

39. C/A

respectfully, i disagree. yes, it's amusing to compare their logo of the lean muscular swordbearer w/ their actual images bellied up for the obligatory "cold ones", but these are dangerous, vicious people. not much in a stand-up, i'll grant, but they're sneaks & dangerous in a mob.

these are all potential mcveighs, nichols, & rudolfs. they're lynchers in plainclothes for the day.

TX Protesters: i imagine you have your own security people, but a word of warning. when the PWs don't show up, look around carefully for odd parcels, boxes, trash bags, etc. if you see anything out of place, clear out fast.

[fudge stripe cookays]

42. Thanks Jukes.

And good point, that.

I don't put it past these assholes one bit.

FSC

[TowelBoy]

58. I used to read the PW sites all the time...

back when I was (sadly) a freeper, and as scary as they are idealogically, I've never seen them promote violence against any protestor, so you should be as safe as you regularly would be. I'm not excusing their idiocy, I'm just trying to make you feel better, they're not going to abduct your family...

[tom_paine]

6. Isn't it funny how Nazis ALWAYS accused others of what they are

Just like the originals

"Fucking Jews, trying to oppress everyone and take over the world."

No, asshole, that would be YOU!

Protest Warriors haven't changed much in the intervening 70 years, have they?

The original protest warriors...

[anarchy1999]

20. Thanks Tom. This pic is just damn frightening!

I don't know if I'll be able to sleep tonight now. I've already been having many sleepless nights, I think you just may have added to them.

I appreciate it still.

When will the sheeple wake up?

[comsymp]

44. Looks kinda hot to me

In a repressed, homoerotic sort of way...

[H2O Man]

81. good post, Tom Paine.....

I agree with what you said. I think that the growing threat from mindless, nazi-like machines will become more of an issue as we approach November. It is unfortunate that a Kerry victory may unleash more of their madness.

On a couple of other threads recently, I wrote about one of C.G. Jung's presentations years ago, where he spoke about the rising tide of the nazi beast, as he noted it in the early in the 1900s. He had noted increasing reports in archetypal imagery in Germany, that indicated to him that an extreme form of brutality and violence would occure in the near future. Others in the field did not understand or believe him at the time.

We see the same things going on under what Jung refered to as the thin layer of individual consciousness. It is the collective unconscious, or the collective force of the mindless brutes being described in this post, that threaten to react to a trigger and wreak havoc on our society. I have met a couple of the people being discussed, and do not believe they are appreciably more aware of their actions on a conscious level than my lawn mower. And I believe that there are people in Texas and Washington willing to use them as just that -- mowing machines, no different than nazis.

I enjoy your posts.

[ayeshahaqqiqa]

8. I can't help but wonder

if some of these bozos were the ones who vandalized my favorite Arabic restaurant in Arlington TX during Gulf War I. They planted a fake bomb and left a lovely note about "sand n----rs". I was sickened by it.

[fudge stripe cookays]

9. I wouldn't be surprised.

I'm sorry ayes. Do you know if they are still open? I love Middle Eastern food.

Our last local gathering didn't really come together very well, and it's mostly my fault. This would be just the place to show some solidarity with our friends from other cultures.

[anarchy1999]

10. You want to meet up at Fadi's or Ali Baba? It's a tough call?

Thanks for your support.

S

[fudge stripe cookays]

11. I don't know where either of them are....

but it could be fun....

I've got lots going on this weekend though. Maybe soon.

Where are they? We usually go to Kosta's on Greenville for Mediterranean nibbles. Their pitas and tzatziki RULE.

FSC

[anarchy1999]

13. Ali Baba is on Lower Greenville, Fadi's is at 75 and Knox-Henderson.

It's a tough call. Ali Baba is my all time fave, but Fadi's does a bang up job.

If you like falafel, Ali Baba's is hand's down the best!!!

Thanks for saying hi.
;

s and d

[fudge stripe cookays]

28. Ahhh...THAT Ali Baba.

I remember it now. Our old neighborhood.

Haven't been to Fadi's yet either. That seems to be kind of a bad location for restaurants over there. I'll talk to Al and see what he says.

L.

[ayeshahaqqiqa]

24. No, it's not

they went out of business years ago, which is a shame. It had the best Middle Eastern food I've ever eaten.

[progressivebydesign]

12. They're a buncha wannabes.. hoping for their 15 minutes of fame.

I have to love the logo they use for themselves.. the vaguely naziesque drawing of a buff young brownshirt.. when these guys look like beer-swilling toads. I bet that one warrior is pissed to see that one photo that shows his man-boobs. That's just SOO not warrior-like!

These guys are just wanting attention. The internet is a good thing, but it's a very, very scary thing in bringing together extremists like this. Next, they'll be firebombing things.. (if they haven't already).

[gratuitous]

14. Huh

Well, they know a lot better than to try to confront Christian Peacemaker Teams, so I have to give them credit for that. Next time the PWs (does that stand for "pussy whipped"?) show up, the protestors against Halliburton should come equipped with video cameras and enlistment forms. Watching the PWs scatter when offered the opportunity to show what "real" men they are should be worth a laugh or two.

[anarchy1999]

15. Read the link, the Peace Center has been taping every Friday for the last

few weeks. This is one of the issues the PW's discuss about our devious tactics to make "them look bad".

Whoa, who is looking bad here? I'm confused.

[gratuitous]

16. Right

I'm just giving you the benefit of a tactic that worked well for CPT in Chiapas. Whenever they went out into the campo, they were shadowed by goverment and paramilitary thugs. The shadows never did anything overt, but if they were governmental authority (or could act as if they had governmental authority), they would harass the CPT folks, demanding identification, threatening deportation, etc. Usually, they were content to just be a menacing presence, and occasionally take photos.

The CPT folks huddled and decided that the best response would be to engage their shadows any time they could, talking with them about what they were doing, and asking why that might be a problem. The shadows didn't want contact (their superiors definitely didn't want fraternization), and quickly learned to keep their distance. When they did that, the CPT folks began taking pictures right back at them. Soon the shadows moved far enough away that their presence was no longer quite so disruptive or threatening.

The PWs have one tactic to use, and they've now lost the element of surprise, which is why their "de-briefing" memos sound so triumphant. Be ready for them with designated spokespersons, talking points, video and still cameras, and enlistment forms, and they will not have a response. They're not that creative.

Good luck to you, anarchy1999. The truth is on your side, and you have the superior kung fu.

[anarchy1999]

17. We are fortunate. The Mennonite Church founded the Dallas Peace

Center. Thanks for your good wishes. We just need lots of love and prayers and the actions of people wanting good in this world.

www.dallaspeacecenter.org

Once again, thank you for your wise words.

[gratuitous]

18. Ah, excellent

If you got the Mennonites in your corner, there's no way the PWs can prevail!

Oops, time for Big Brother. {Pause while I hang my head in shame} I look forward to checking out the dallaspeacecenter website in the morning.

[anarchy1999]

19. No need to hang your head in shame. We are very proud of what

the Dallas Peace Center is and what we all do in the midst of lots of hate. There is truly an amazing bunch of people making things happen every day in lots of different places.

www.dallaspeacecenter.org

[gratuitous]

32. Nice website

No, I was hanging my head in mock shame about watching "Big Brother," the TV show.

Anyway, the website looks good and you have an impressive array of local and national groups supporting you. Don't be too shocked if a stray contribution comes into the office from Oregon.

La lucha sigue.

[anarchy1999]

34. Send it attention of Hadi Jawad or Lon B. And mention you heard about

them off of DU. It will be much appreciated. Thank you for your kind words.

[allalone]

21. is this just a new name for skinheads?

sounds like the same type that go around looking for people to beat up.

[Tabasco_Dave]

22. Hey protest warriors

I saw your nazi beer hall photo. You fat f__ks need to lay off the carbs.

[newyawker99]

31. Hi Tabasco_Dave!!

Welcome to DU!! :toast:

[anarchy1999]

35. That paticular pic is from one of their first show ups. I think it was

the second one, way back in May. Nice looking bunch or morans, aren't they.

[MadHound]

25. Here is a tactic we use here in Mid Mo to counter these types

Go out and find your local chapter of Vetrans for Peace. These people have the moral gravitas to really slap down these little twits. Here in Mid Mo when we do are weekly rally in front of the post office, there is always a handful of counter demonstrators across the street, you know the type, freepers. They usually try to engage in dialog with us, and if things start looking like they are going to get out of hand, we send in one of the VFP folks to calm it down. Just by their calm demeanor and moral authority they can take the air right out of the freepers.

So try it sometime, check out their web page<http://www.veteransforpeace.org/>, it looks like the guy who heads the North Texas Chapter lives in Dallas.

So get ahold of these people, I'm sure they would love to help. Nothing like a real warrior to take the air out of a faux warrior.

[anarchy1999]

26. Thanks dearest, We already have the Vets on board.

It is an active Vet that started this nightmare with the Protest Warriors (such a lovely group of individuals, including women, beats me?), so we have Vets on both sides of this fence here in Dallas.

If you want to read the history go to www.protestwarrior.com and then forums and command and control and look for Halliburton protest. These folks don't fool around.

[YIMA]

36. I Don't Understand

I've read through the whole thread, and I can see that you're upset that they show up, but what are they doing that's in violation of the law?

[anarchy1999]

48. Absolutely nothing, except to be very abrasive and agressive.

Until a few weeks ago there were a few physical altercations. Then the police department finally met with both groups, separately and it was agreed the two groups would be separate and apart. Since then peace has reigned.

Read the links, they are okay with it and believe they have the prime real estate location. They also believe it keeps us (the peace keepers and protestors of war profiteering hurting all of Iraq and the US taxpayers) of trying to provoke them and make them "Look Bad".

UNBELIEVABLE!!!!!!!

The fight against what has been happening in Iraq has been an important issue since shortly before or after the first debacle in 1991.

The best thing anyone can do for oneself is google and do some homework on all the issues.

History of the area, ancient/forward.
History of Lawrence of Arabia, WWI and betrayal. Lots of lies and deception.

British Occupation


Look for Robert Fisk, hands down best journalist to be found on the Mid-East and Western Asia, rarely is published in American print or seen on any talk program, Why? 30 years plus of reporting on the Mid-East. He is our dear, Helen Thomas, Greg Palast, Molly Ivins, Jim Hightower and Paul Krugman are rolled into one incredible true reporter (No embed for him!). Islam, Christianity, Judaism and all the resulting politics and chaos all for control (domination) of the area, and all other resources and wealth. (Please let us all not forget when Bush was selected, Saddam switched his currency for oil to the EURO, the rest of Opec and the world were watching).

Let's not even go to Halliburtion and Cheney okay. I know way more than I want to know about what a nice company and cozy relationship the company has with dear, departed ex-CEO.

Just let us all remember February 15, 2003 and the many other protests and vigils held throughout the world from that day forward. We did make history that day. Never before in history, a solid 24 hours around the globe!! Lets not stop hoping yet, K. (I think we all just have our low moments, it's a roller coaster I want off of, how about you?)

Sorry for the long rant, hope it helps "no violation of the law" aspect for you.

[YIMA]

54. I see.

Since both sides have the equal right to voice their opinion, I don't see where you can do anything other than what you are doing which is just showing up and protesting. The other suggestions of intimidation just seem to me to be stooping to their level. I strongly believe in promoting peace through behaving peacefully even when the other side isn't.

[YIMA]

55. Dupe

dupe

[MadHound]

37. OK then, another suggestion

And I'm not trying to be patronizing, I'm just trying to come up with ideas to help you folks do your good works. I live in another very conservative state, and know what you're going through.

Anyway, find your local Harley Chapter, get to know some serious hard core bikers. Perhaps you know some friends who ride. You would be suprised to find out how many of them are against the war. Talk these folks into coming to the protest, but have them roll in fashionably late, with all of the regalia, so that all of these warrior punks can see. Watch their jaws drop. There are few people out there more intimidating than a big guy on a hog. This was a tactic used here both during the Vietnam and Gulf I protests, and it is effective. Most of these folks think meek and mild when they think anti-war. Nothing like a big biker bad ass to shake them up. I'll do some checking around here, and if there is a run going down your way soon, I'll let you know.

Also, if you have a community radio station(surely you do in Dallas), catch the ear of a friendly DJ and start getting yourselves on the air. I went over and read the punks' forum page, and it sounds like they're getting the sympathetic news coverage(of course it is from the local Faux station). Put yourselves on the air and you could very well get some more people down to your rallies(it sounds like you're starting to be severely outnumbered). Also, use your community access cable station(if you have one) in the same manner. Perhaps you can get somebody to loan you the equipment to do a live broadcast.

Have you thought about switching up your protest sites from week to week? Keep these fools off balance and guessing, thus lowering their turn-out. One week your local Federal Building, next, the Post Office, then come back to Haliburton. If they don't know where you're going to be, they can't counter protest.

I hope this helps. Like I said, I also come from a conservative state, and am just throwing out ideas we've used that have worked. Good luck, and keep up the good work. It is a shame I'm not closer, or I would be down there to help out. Trouble is, I'm about ten hours+ away from you, and what with work and other things in my life, I can't get away, or I would be down there. I am coming through in March for a friend's wedding in Austin. I'll stop by then and help out as much as I can, if that just means being another warm body.

[fudge stripe cookays]

43. Great thoughts, MadHound!

That's a great idea.

I know there's a guy on KNON on Monday mornings who's antiwar. Anyone know who I mean? I think his name is Tunde Obaze or something like that? Very funny and peaceful African man who rails against Bush and what's going on.

All it would take is a few minutes of airtime to increase the numbers quite a bit. And I LOVE the idea of Hawg drivers. That is outstanding.

We'd love to meet you on your swing though in March. PM anarchy or me and let us know when. We'll try to get the gang together.

FSC :D

[anarchy1999]

46. Thanks and all are very good suggestion. Hadn't pursued the biker

angle, but just a few weeks ago they had 40,000 show up in Justin, just a few mile north of Dallas. And yes other sites are being looked at.

Just for fun go check out www.halliburtons.com

By the way, there aren't many friendly DJ's in this area. Headquarters for Clear Channel, thought you knew. I can see their HQ from my home.

www.garyrpage.com has a Harley.

[fudge stripe cookays]

49. I thought Clear Channels' HQ was in San Antonio....

If it isn't, then they've got another huge building down there that we discovered while we were on vacation.

Yuck.

S-- see my post about Tunde on KNON up a few posts. I just e-mailed the Peace Center a little while ago to let them know if they haven't checked into it yet.

=)
PS- Al won't let me come out and play Friday evening. :|

[anarchy1999]

50. No doubt they have many large buildings across the nation, but HQ

is right on Dallas North Tollway, just north of LBJ on the left. I think it used to be the Tenet HQ's, they went under and then along came the beast.

on edit:
I could be wrong, I'll do some checking. Gary would like for a get together tomorrow, AliBaba's on North Preston works for us all. Who else you think we can line up on short notice?

[fudge stripe cookays]

52. It's an outpost.

See my post below.

[fudge stripe cookays]

51. Yep, I was right.

This is from a .pdf talking about pulling Howard Stern off their Website.

Clear Channel Communications, Inc. (NYSE: CCU), headquartered in San Antonio, Texas, is a global leader in the media and entertainment industry with radio and television stations, outdoor advertising displays, and live entertainment venues in 65 countries around the world.

[anarchy1999]

56. Thank God I said I could be wrong. Thank heavens for humility.

I think I believed it was here because of the force behind it, as in Hicks/Muse. I may be wrong again but I believe Muse is no longer a part? Hard to keep up these days. So how does Thursday work for you guys, is it possible, Gary needs an up night.

[fudge stripe cookays]

60. Let me ask Al.

Since he vetoed Friday.

Is Gary having a hard time? I've been watching my Dean Dozen e-mails and hadn't seen anything yet. He's not dropping out is he?

FSC

[anarchy1999]

62. No, NO, NO!

He's just having a low moment, his campaign manager is out there somewhere and Gary needs people that can make a difference. No, Gary will never drop out.

Funny you mentioned the Dean's. I asked him about this just a couple of hours ago. No contact and you were a major player. That's why he said yes so quick to a meal with you guys. You guys build him up and this campaign is absolutely nothing but grass roots. There was a lift in his voice when I asked him if he would like to get together with the two of you and would he like for me to try and make it happen.

[fudge stripe cookays]

67. Awwwwww! He's so sweet!

Well we definitely need to give ole Gary a boost! I can't believe I'd forgotten about smirkingchimp until he brought it up at the Scott Ritter thing.

You know you're too busy when...you know a name from somewhere, but can't think at which liberal Website or event you've encountered this person before!

FSC

[anarchy1999]

73. Hey babe, maybe we are just all a little overwhelmed, especially in Dallas

n/t
See you tomorrow. S

[anarchy1999]

53. Tunde is awesome and so is just about everyone else there.

n/t

Glad you like him and he is a good friend of many involved with the Peace Center.

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57. I love the hypocrisy here

They're idiots, but I read the entired link and I didn't see where they did anything illegal or dangerous. Yes, I understand they're raging idiots but they have freedom of speech, too, and it's not like they're DENYING our protestors their freedoms, they're just arguing it on a public forum.

Now before you start calling me a freeper etc. remember I'm the one here defending their right to freedom of speech (no matter how stupid, inane, etc.), so hush up.

[gratuitous]

59. They're also reactionary bigots

Many of the posts here have discussed counter tactics, and how to get the message out in spite of the PWs disruptive behavior, which is designed to limit or interfere with Dallas Peace Action's demonstration.

If you're not able to distinguish between the two, then I can suggest several alternative web sites where you might be far more comfortable.

"Hush up." Ha, ha, ha.

[fudge stripe cookays]

61. Excuse me, but....

You're the one above who said, "back when I was (sadly) a freeper." How do we know that "back when you were" wasn't yesterday?

Your post seems to suggest that not a lot has changed. We're trying to increase our numbers, and are suggesting alternative tactics to use. We are a Democratic board, and we dislike freepers for their attitudes and their bullying tactics.

If you don't like this thread, you are welcome to avoid it. May I suggest a right turn.

[anarchy1999]

63. FSC, please pm me, ASAP.

s

[anarchy1999]

65. Hook it up to nostamj latest toons.

If we keep turning corners are we not going in a circle or is it a square? Same difference.

[TowelBoy]

74. I think if you'd check my other posts...

you'd realize I've only very recently come "left" and that I'm still really not sure where I stand, except that I don't want to stand in the right anymore, and it seems really bad tactics to start screaming freeper at new "converts."

See, I'm only saying that from what I read I have never known them to do anything violent, and a conter-protest does not equal brownshirts and nazis. Now true I have never experienced them, and at the time I was an active reader I was also (as I mentioned) a freeper, so maybe, JUST MAYBE, I was ill-informed, but it just disgusted me to see people react so negatively to people using what I've seen as peaceful protest.

If they have been using violent measures, I will bow my head and admit that I was wrong, but seriously, I think people are over-reacting to them. They're bunch of idiots. Well-organized, well-funded, but that doesn't make them any smarter. They're idiots through and through, or they wouldn't be defending a frikkin corporation which screws the troops, the country, and the world. They're just there to mess with our heads, and you act like they're there to abduct us.

And I really would appreciate it if you treated other newer, recently "converted" members with a tad more understanding (if anything look at their POST COUNT!) because Bush is causing more and more of us to move left, and now is NOT the time to be pushing them back right.

And yes I was offended by the "May I suggest a right turn." because as a member of a "Democratic board" I would think furthering the cause of the Democratic Party would be a big concern of ours.

Gah...

[fudge stripe cookays]

78. Your other posts...

have also been provocative, as to fair-mindedness to "the other side." We do not care about the other side. We are in the process of trying to save our country. If you have a problem about us complaining about these Neanderthals, you will not get much sympathy.

While I am glad for your change of heart, you must understand the mindset here. We are so often infiltrated by freepers pretending to be one of us, and then being revealed for the jerks they are eventually. We are happy to have converted folks on board, but we are under no obligation to kowtow to you. Sorry, but if you voted for him last time, you're part of the reason we're in this mess.

Post count, while it is not really indicative of anything, says something about you whether you want it to or not.

You may want to start small, post in the lounge, make some friends, and ask lots of questions about what you are learning.

Coming here and asking hypotheticals about the inherent decency of freepers will earn you some degree of hostility. That's just the way it is.

[TowelBoy]

80. I'm sorry, I will apologize for my idiotic behavior

I was just disgusted because these people got the same reaction here as the NY protestors will be getting and have gotten on the freeper sites, and it made me angry, but I should have held my tongue rather than spew the first thoughts that came to my head. I was having a bad day was all, so I am truly sorry.

And yes, this is as sincere as it is painful, so there. Brothers in arms again, nyet? :D

[fudge stripe cookays]

82. Sure.

I didn't mean to be nasty. I'm sure your apology is a little difficult, so you get a lot of credit for doing it.

Welcome to the board. We all have bad days once in awhile.
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[FatSlob]

64. I think it is great that they can counter protest.

I fully support the right of the "Protest Warriors" to do what they do. I don't support the message, but they have every right to counter-protest. We would be no better than than China if they couldn't do it.

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[derby378]

69. Oh, they can counter-protest all they want...

...but they can't threaten us, they can't attack us, they can't take our signs and vandalize them, etc. They're a bunch of whiny-babies with tiny penises.

[FatSlob]

71. Right, they CAN counter, but not the other stuff.

Please refrain from the tiny penis stuff. It really is juvenile. You'll go protest, they'll counter your protest, and all will be hunky-dory as long as everybody stays cool.

[fudge stripe cookays]

76. Methinks someone doth protest too much.

Taking it a little personally, aren't you? What's the matter? Shoe fit?

[FatSlob]

77. Hmmm, nice veiled way to call me a freeper.

Way to go, bucko. I think an apology is in order from you. I'd be embarassed to do what you did. I guess you disapprove of my ACLU stance? Perhaps you want all voices silent that don't agree with you or your allies? I'll tell you what, I stand for freedom of expression for EVERYBODY. Even the KKK and the Michigan Militia have the right. I will defend the rights of NARAL or the peace protestors just the same as I will defend the rights of those assclown counter protestors. Those who are not happy about that probably have an authoritarian bent to them. I stand for personal freedom above all, I hope you will too.

[fudge stripe cookays]

79. Not gonna happen.

And I don't embarrass easily.

[FatSlob]

83. Way to show your true "stripes".

I'm not surprised, judging by your previous behavior.

[fudge stripe cookays]

84. I'm not going to bother responding to this.

you're convinced I'm rude, and I'm convinced you're a jerk. We can leave it at that.

[FatSlob]

85. Of course I'm a jerk

I stand up for individual rights, no matter who the individual is. Some people just abhor the thought of somebody (like me, or the ACLU) defending the rights of those we disagree with. I think the message of the "protest warriors" is somewhat juvenile. I also think that they have the right to spread it and to counter protest. I just hope that you will join me in standing up for everybody's rights. If doing that makes me a jerk, then I'll wear the title with pride.

[TowelBoy]

75. Damn straight!

And people are calling them brown shirts, and then I'm called a freeper for pointing out that they're being hypocritical. But then it's easy to pick on a newbie, aint it?

[derby378]

70. HA!

I found a Christian web site that's trying to include Protest Warrior goons in a counterprotest for the 9/11/04 march on DC, and raised a red flag over there about PW's tactics in the past. Hoo-hoooo!

[anarchy1999]

72. Been looking for you guys. Please PM me ASAP!

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