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Guy Fawkes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-04 04:29 PM
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Why do some conservatives seem to think liberals hate Jews?
I read Ann Coulter's book "Slander." She spends several pages talking about how liberals hate Jews. I have never, {i]never met an anti-semitic liberl. I have met some people who are a little ignorant, but never anti-semitic. The anti-semites I've run into are all right-wingers.

Another point: if liberals hate Jews as much as Coutler says, why are so many Jews liberals?
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Vickers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-04 04:30 PM
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1. Because we don't blindly say "Israel good, Palestine bad!"
Also, I can't tell you how many RW-types I have talked to who either overtly or by accident revealed a virulent anti-Semite streak.
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Guy Fawkes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-04 04:33 PM
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7. Just because we're critical of Isreal's policies...
doesn't mean we hate Jews! There are TONS of Jews who don't agree with Isreal!
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peace4allpeople Donating Member (8 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-04 05:03 PM
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17. Yea, like me
I'm only kinnda Jew, but i know Judiaism is a religion, not a state.
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Selwynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-04 05:43 PM
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23. Yes, but its a good conervative slander, and they use it VERY well
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DavidMS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-04 04:31 PM
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2. Projection
Conservatives are much more likely to be antisemetic than liberals. And of cource cognative dissonance.

Just a hint, but the "restricted" signs my grandparents encountered certanly were not put up by liberals.
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Gryffindor_Bookworm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-04 04:31 PM
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3. I hear that from my most RW brother all the time.
I think it's two-fold:

1. It's mostly liberals who criticize America's policies on Israel.
2. Most conservative Christians are supporters of Israel, calling Jews "God's Chosen People." They neglect to mention that they support Israel because they want it to exist so it can be annihilated in the battle of Armageddon. :eyes:
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Demonaut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-04 04:33 PM
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4. I'd rather read the print in a box of cereal than read that crap, no
offense. Coulter has issues....many issues and the vitriol and hate she spews should be censored
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liberalpragmatist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-04 04:33 PM
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5. Because many liberals are very pro-Palestinian
Or more balanced that the hardcore Zionist position.

Of course, there are liberals who are pro-Israel, and frankly, while I myself am quite pro-Palestinian (I like to think myself more balanced), many of my pro-Israel friends are themselves relatively balanced. We may disagree about many of the actions of the Israeli govt. today (in fact, many of them think Sharon's too hardline) or about the historical context, but most of us support a two-state solution.

The thing is right-wingers assume any criticism of Israel is antisemitism.
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oasis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-04 04:33 PM
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6. Coulter is a liar who spreads disinformation. The swifboat liar O'Neil
is also an author. Writing a book doesn't automatically make one an authority on a particular subject.
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Guy Fawkes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-04 04:34 PM
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9. She was just an example...
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salinen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-04 04:34 PM
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8. The liars like to paint
their white faces. We see and hear many Black and Jewish RW'ers to confuse people into thinking it's the norm. Not a Black republican in congress or senate really tells the story. And Charles Schumer, Russ Feingold, Feinstein, Boxer, Wiener, Waxman, et al, are all demos.
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BayouBengal07 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-04 04:34 PM
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10. Because
if you criticize Israeli policy, you hate Jews.

Supposedly.
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Ducks In A Row Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-04 04:36 PM
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11. they're projecting the hate they have buried in order to...
bring about Armageddon
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goddess40 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-04 04:37 PM
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12. because they project their sins on others
trying to deflect the truth about themselves.
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wildeyed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-04 04:41 PM
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13. crazy
Many of the liberals I know ARE Jews.

How can you read that stuff? Must have a very strong stomach.
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Guy Fawkes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-04 04:48 PM
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16. They read our books, I read theirs.
I like to hear all perspectives...
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shadu Donating Member (889 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-04 04:47 PM
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14. Because we support human rights for Palestinians
Hardly the same as hating Jews, now is it.
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Iris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-04 04:48 PM
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15. Because they do.
Don't a lot of conservatives believe in the whole "Jews run the world" idea?
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progdonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-04 05:18 PM
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18. two reasons
The first is basically what the earlier poster called projection. Conservatives know that they've always hated Jews (who was always lumped together with the communists? It wasn't the WASPs, that's for sure....), and they know that the educated people know that. So, they decided to keep saying the left is anti-Semitic, knowing that the same idiots who believe deserters and draft dodgers have a greater respect for our armed services will eventually come to believe it. (Yet, in the same breath they'll rant an rave about the left being in love with Karl Marx; you remember him, that blond-haired, blue-eyed, perfect Aryan...)

Yes, liberals are tougher on Israel; we actually have so much respect for the Israeli people that we hold them to a higher standard, for we know they are capable of reaching it. The Israelis have been exposed to western democracy and the Enlightenment--their actions should reflect that. (This is the same reason "Liberals Hate America"). On the other hand, the Palestinians have been kept in the dark for centuries, and now they are treated like dogs and herded like sheep into refugee camps--I'm therefore willing to be more forgiving if they react less humanely.

Conservatives continue their deflection by pointing to our criticisms as hatred of Jews, but this is again just to keep their ignorant followers from understanding that the reason Conservatives are rabidly pro-Israel is hardly laudable: the Fundamentalist Christians want to protect the state of Israel so Jesus will return, send the Jews to Hell, and take the Christians to Heaven; the other ones just want to see the complete annihilation of the Palestinian people. The latter is largely made up of the Jewish conservatives, who are willing to ally themselves with the Christian Fundies because they'll help them kill Palestinians. (Enemy of my enemy is my friend... even if that friend wants to see me burn in Hell.)
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enki23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-04 05:24 PM
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19. by idiot conservative logic, american jews also hate jews
they're just trying to be cute. they think they've got a "race card" to play. unfortunately for them, it really doesn't fucking wash.
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-04 05:35 PM
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21. OK, go with me on this
To a loony RWer only two things actually exist: Infinite Good and Infinite Evil. Since the Nazis were obviously part of IE, anything that is part of IE (libruls, queers, French) hates Jews.
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Selwynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-04 05:42 PM
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22. because we don't blindly support the state sanctioned terrorism of Israel
Terrorism is still terrorism whether it comes in the from a bomb strapped to the chest or in the from of a smart bomb aimed at civilians. It's terrorism when a independent faction does it and its terrorism when the military of a government does it.

It is our failure to unquestioningly, blindly support the nation of Israel and its illegal occupation that gets us the brand "anti-Semitic."
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