Kos: Bumbling Bush at Unity Conference --- (DU: is there a transcript?)

[iconoclastic cat]

From Kos:

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2004/8/6/10484/30743

Bumbling Bush at Unity Conference
by persimmony
Fri Aug 6th, 2004 at 06:48:04 EDT

A friend of mine just called from the lobby of the Unity Conference in DC, the largest journalist-of-color conference in the country, where Bush just spoke.
One journalist there, an African-American man named Ronald Martin (?) badgered Bush with a series of nuanced questions leading him from condemning affrimative action and "race quotas" to discussing "legacy quotas" and whether Bush 2 supports university policies that weight the sons and daughters of alumni with extra points toward admission. Following this line of reasoning, Mr. Martin ultimately got Bush to state: "I believe colleges should act affirmatively."
Another journalist there, a Native American asked Bush what sovereignty meant to him. He responded:
"Sovereignty means just that, sovereignty. We have given you sovereignty, so now you are sovereign."
Can't wait for those debates!!!
****

DUers: I'm trying to find a transcript of this speech, but I'm not having much luck. Have any of you seen one?


On edit: Read the comments, too! Hi-larious!

[Sparkly]

1. No, but here's a link to the "legacy" admissions thing

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=694&ncid=703&e=1&u=/ap/20040806/ap_on_el_pr/bush

Scroll to the end.
Too bad we can't undo it retroactively.

[progressivebydesign]

22. Just listened to that clip... he's just falling apart!

OMG! The audience is laughing AT HIM, not with him. He can't even answer a basic question.. he keeps trying to be clever by neither confirming nor denying his support for affirmative action.. but he comes off sounding incredibly stupid. I have the feeling that a lot of journalists walked out of that room and said to one another.. 'I can't BELIEVE that man is running our country. I'm frightened'.

He was obviously in over his head.. he kept trying to say "support" but he was stumbling over it again and again using the word "suppote", almost sounding as though he was mocking gangsta rap. Wierd shit.

[KharmaTrain]

45. He's Like A Malfunctioning Hard Drive

The data goes in...the light comes on and there's that lag until the data is sorted and an answer comes out. Usually it's the programmed talking point Karl or Karen or Condi told him to keep using. "Turning The Corner" is one of the latest meme's he's been programmed with. Once he's programmed, all the other Bushbots are, so that that meme...from "Axis Of Evil" to "the economy is improving" is spread far and wide...amplified by a complacent media and the Rovewellian machine makes shineola from shit.

The "fun" is watching the "crutches" this boy uses. A crutch being a word or phrase someone will lean on in that gap time when the hard drive is trying to reconnect. In radio this is when the personality gives the time or reads the forecast or gives out the phone number...it's a few seconds so a thought can be composed. Or, it's a moment to stall in hopes of changing the subject or confusing the audience so much they just want to move on.

You can tell Junior is having hard-drive troubles when he starts to lean forward on the podium...or his eyes jerk back and forth; looking around for a clue flying around the room. He'll start going to crutch words like "terrorist", "evil"...or start piling on; such as his usual jag about how evil Hussein was with the tortue cells, rape room...Abu Grahb (oops...how'd that get in here??)...leaning further into the podium so it appears like he's lecturing rather than answering...like a parent trying to shut up a 5 year old with stories of the boogie man.

I was amazed to see an article on Newsmax...Yes, THAT Newsmax (and no I didn't order the 50 free copies of the O'Neill book) that pointed out some of these observations and more that the writer felt is hurting this re-selection.

Most of us here are astounded that Bunnypants went to speak to this group in the first place considering his snub to the NAACP and how warmly they welcomed Kerry. I guess Rove thought he could sneak this one in and maybe grab a soundbite or a shot of a hall of minorities applauding their boy...have him give a short speech and vanish. But whoever threw him out there unscripted either is working for us or has the reddest ass in the beltway. He couldn't even find his way off stage.

Yes, it was a pathetic performance...and I give it 6 stars and three thumbs up. Must see TV for all.

Cheers!

[leftchick]

2. I watched the idiotface*

omg.... It was the WORST ever. The best to me was when he would make his inane wisecracks and no one would laugh. I KNOW that pissed the little shit off! LOL...

[charlie105]

3. LOL! But no matter what, the people are going to find him

'lovable' and 'affable'. An innocent bumbler, pure of heart and mind. What they seem to forget is that they are talking about the President of The United States. The leader of the free world. Not a class clown.

[DancingBear]

4. Haven't seen a transcript yet

Nor have I heard when (if) C-Span will re-run it. Please try and watch the whole thing if they do - words truly do not do it justice.

BTW, the great reporter of whom you speak is Roland Martin.

[iconoclastic cat]

9. Actually, that part of the post is from Parsimmony at dKos

I only wrote the comment after the **** line.

[JerseygirlCT]

5. I saw the sovereignity bit - it looked like a SNL skit. Pathetic! nt

[iconoclastic cat]

6. Here, I found the audio!

They have the audio at the Unity site:
http://www.atunity.org/2004/friday/

[Ducks In A Row]

15. here's the one about quotas

he's losing it

http://www.atunity.org/2004/multimedia/soundclip9.html

[cthrumatrix]

16. america needs to see who is running this country ---it's not this clown

[noise626]

35. You know, I loath to curse.....

......but this man, this so called "president", this pretender to the office of Lincoln, this water headed, blank brained, aggressively incompetent and weak willed fool is simply not only an embarrassment to the Country, but quite possibly an embarrassment to the whole of the Human Race.

:puke:


Fuck GWB and everyone that looks like GWB. Fuck every piece of him!!!

ARGH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

:puke:


pax
ant (Who believes now more than ever that we are ready for an alien invasion. Perhaps by something with lots of tentacles.)

[RubyDuby in GA]

7. Good Lord

I still can't believe that this idiot is the "leader of the free world." I'm only 30, but I have to wonder if we'll ever be able to live down this fool in the eyes of the world in my lifetime.

[tabasco]

25. I am constantly shocked, saddened, and astonished ...

that a man of such little character and ability could become the President in our Nation. I think religious fundamentalism and a cult mentality are much to blame. We must fight these zealots to retain control of our Nation and never let our guard down again.

[Cornus]

8. Audible laughs...

...from the audience during *'s "sovereignty" comments. Truly hilarious, but also quite sad considering he is the *supposed* leader of our country. What an embarassment!

[AmerDem]

12. He was a laughing stock!!

The crowd was laughing so much AT him. I caught the tail end of the show on C-span and wow without a script this guy is lost!

I felt truly embarrassed for our country!

[Kinkistyle]

13. Sovereignty. Isn't that the same company that makes Savarin Coffee?

You know, the Limeys prolly drink that crap, Savarin Tea.

[Cocoa]

10. I can't wait for "Silver City"

I saw the trailer, it looks like an awesome shot at Bush. The character, Dicky Pillager, is a bumbler like Bush, but it looks like he's not the innocent bumbler the media usually shows, but the evil bumbler that Bush actually is.

[opihimoimoi]

11. In the 3rd paragraph he sez" Imagine if we did not give out the warning

and something happened to one of the buildings....?"

Which is exactly what happened in Aug of 2001 when he got the CLEAR AND PRESENT DANGER WARNING and did nothing......and 34 days later..
......9/11 happens and 3000 people died for shit. Bush is clearly at fault for not giving out any warning, rejecting the Hart/Rudman answers. He did nothing for 8 months, nothing about terror.

[jasmeel]

14. Why isnt Bush's speech available on cspan?? I'm dying to see

it by I'm at work. Kerry's speech is there.

[Stephanie]

17. It will be there later

It will be there at least by tomorrow.

Welcome to DU, jasmeel!

[jasmeel]

19. I've found my home--thanks for the warm welcome!

[tibbiit]

18. Today is AUGUST 6th

2 years ago wasnt there some kind of warning about Buildings and Airplanes in the US?
that worked out well.
tib

[opihimoimoi]

20. 3 years ago, Bush was on Vacation...to make it "a working vacation"

They scheduled a meeting in Crawford.

Everyone of import was there.

One of the subjects was the PDB file with a titke: "Osama coming to America to attack us"** I can't recall exact words but this is close enough..

Much warnings from other quarters confirmed a CLEAR AND PRESENT DANGER....

Our Prez obviously did nothing with the warning, no up grade at any Ports, no communications of any kind re to this matter... they let it slide

Someday, and I hope soon, we will learn of this meeting and what really went on. There will be a book written about how Bush got away with major Malfeasance.....

[Stephanie]

21. "Bin Laden Determined to Attack Inside the United States"

http://www.americanprogress.org/site/pp.asp?c=biJRJ8OVF&b=44925

Note that they don't call it HOMELAND amongst themselves.

And they DID do something with the warning - they got out of town! They knew DC was a target so they left! Bush to TX, Dick to WY. For an entire month the cowards hid out waiting for the attack. Finally they could not stretch it out any longer and were forced to return, but immediately they took off again for Camp David and then Florida. They saved THEMSELVES, and that's ALL they did.

[cthrumatrix]

23. Condo actually remembered that was the name of the PDB

but "they had now way of knowing"


It's clear with a report title like that...you would think OBL would strike Canada or something

[opihimoimoi]

37. t was clearly lacking was the Flt Numbers and seat assignments.

Damn.....

[opihimoimoi]

36. Asshole cowards that they would not mention to us small dudes

Its almost as if they wanted an airliner hi jacked or somethin...I guess this is why Condi was caught stammering..."We thought they would hi jack airplanes, not use them as missles"....Hmmmmmm

[jab105]

47. 3 years ago...

n/t

[maxsolomon]

26. but if they gave out the warning to WTC workers

they'd go to work anyway. i would have. what do you do, shut the building down?

commerce before safety!

[Stephanie]

30. Everyone in Tower Two would have been saved

Had security at the building been aware of the terror threat, or had the NYPD been aware and able to inform WTC security, Tower Two would have been immediately evacuated. As it was, Tower Two was told to return to work, because the thought was it was too dangerous to evacuate people onto the plaza while the fire was raging in Tower One and flaming debris was dropping onto the plaza. So that decision was made with not enough information and it cost many many lives, thanks to Bush doing NOTHING.

[opihimoimoi]

38. It is SO Obvious that I am amazed this has been subdued....

Triple DAMN.

[underpants]

24. "I believe colleges should act affirmatively."

With the context that is hilarious.

[iconoclastic cat]

27. Hey, does this mean he still believes in Affirmative Access?

'Cuz if he does, I'm sold!

:spank:

[elehhhhna]

28. RERUN on CSPAN today @ 4:15 EDT

[jackstraw45]

29. Audio of that exchange here

http://www.atunity.org/2004/multimedia/soundclip10.html

[cthrumatrix]

31. thanks ...it's painful

[LittleApple81]

32. HERE IS A THREAD WITH C-SPAN AUDIO ADDRESS AND TRANSCRIPT:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=2169249&mesg_id=2169249

[iconoclastic cat]

34. Thanks, LA81!

:toast:

[Amaya]

33. What an ultimate embarrassment.

[Keirsey]

39. Transcript here

http://www.prnewswire.com/cgi-bin/stories.pl?ACCT=109&STORY=/www/story/08-06-2004/0002226945&EDATE=

Have fun!

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

40. Hopeless.

He's as dumb as a box of hammers. What a buffoon -- he's simultaneously hilarious and nauseating.

[Lerkfish]

41. I managed to catch part of this on Cspan tonight...

and I was simultaneously amused, outraged, nauseated, vindicated, and seriously frightened, all at the same time.

When he accused the guy of "putting words in my mouth", I remembered the scene from Lord of the Rings when Bilbo is asking to see the ring, now in Frodo's posession, first politely, then his features distort into pure evil when he says "give it to me!"

That was the REAL personality of Bush bubbling up out of the veneer.

I'm still hovering between thinking he's the antichrist or the missing link.

[Sparkly]

42. "We don't need intern camps"

instead of "internment." Did you see the journalists looking at each other after that one?

The whole thing was hilarious and sad at the same time. Some year in the future, our kids are going to see this and say, "I can't believe this guy was president."

[Sparkly]

43. Other favorites

"So we have a, in terms of law enforcement, we have a duty to uphold
innocence and guilt."

"Tribal sovereignty means that, it's sovereign. You're a --
you've been given sovereignty, and you're viewed as a sovereign entity. And,
therefore, the relationship between the federal government and tribes is one
between sovereign entities."

"We actually misnamed the war on
terror, it ought to be the struggle against ideological extremists who do not
believe in free societies who happen to use terror as a weapon to try to shake
the conscience of the free world."

"Condi Rice is there because she happens
to be a very competent, smart, capable woman. She's also African American. And
she is my closest foreign policy advisor."

Can't find the one where he said "diverse" people come in and tell him he's not looking well, or something...

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

44. He's bombing.

The audience is dead silent. He makes some lame "joke" and -- nothing. It's almost like a bad comedy club act. He has this really obnoxious tone of voice where he seems to be talking down to his audience. He keeps saying "in other words," like he think the listeners are too stupid to get it the first time. He sucks enough to bend light.

[LibDemAlways]

48. You nailed it.

The audience sat there stone-faced for the most part or openly disdainful while he broke out in a flop sweat and nervously rambled on desperately looking for some kind of affirmation. I kept waiting for Chuck Barris to bang the gong and put him out of his misery.

[Kipepeo]

46. They LAUGHED at him

http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/nm/20040806/pl_nm/campaign_bush_dc_9

Still, the openly skeptical laughter that greeted some of his answers to their questions was a stark contrast to the fawning crowds Bush usually faces on the campaign trail.

A lone heckler was escorted out of the hall by security after interrupting the president's opening speech with shouts of "Shame on you, Mr. Bush!" and calling him a liar.

Many in the crowd laughed when Bush struggled to answer a question about what tribal sovereignty means for Native American tribes in the 21st century.

"Tribal sovereignty means that; it's sovereign. I mean, you're a -- you've been given sovereignty, and you're viewed as a sovereign entity. And therefore the relationship between the federal government and tribes is one between sovereign entities," Bush replied.