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redstateblues Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-02-04 09:29 AM
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Brilliant Move By Karl Rove-CNN :The New FAUX
While most Dems have been complaining about FAUX, He has co-opted CNN, and they are now fully behind Bush-even while Rush and G.Gordon deride them. Very clever
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  - I wonder  ewagner   Aug-02-04 09:30 AM   #1 
  - It will happen-Hopefully it won't take 4 years!!  redstateliberal   Aug-02-04 09:31 AM   #2 
  - Maybe Faux will go after CNN  Walt Starr   Aug-02-04 09:32 AM   #3 
  - glad you noticed  NewJeffCT   Aug-02-04 09:32 AM   #4 
  - Excellent point! n/t  ewagner   Aug-02-04 09:33 AM   #5 
  - Insightful  redstateliberal   Aug-02-04 09:35 AM   #7 
  - It's Forbidden Fruit...  IMRadioactive   Aug-02-04 09:43 AM   #9 
     - and there is NOBODY to call them on thier bullshit...it's propaganda  cthrumatrix   Aug-02-04 10:11 AM   #13 
        - There Are Some Big Broadcast De-Regulation Bills  IMRadioactive   Aug-02-04 10:29 AM   #16 
  - It's closer to the election.... did you expect other?  cthrumatrix   Aug-02-04 09:34 AM   #6 
  - The CIA has a desk there, right? (i'm not making this up)  soothsayer   Aug-02-04 09:36 AM   #8 
  - According to Michael Moore in F911, the Saudis are major stock  Kahuna   Aug-02-04 09:52 AM   #10 
  - The point man is the Politics Producer. I can't remember his name  blm   Aug-02-04 09:54 AM   #11 
     - Think you mean CNN's political director Tom Hannon --  DeepModem Mom   Aug-02-04 10:09 AM   #12 
        - Could Be A Cover  redstateliberal   Aug-02-04 10:14 AM   #14 
        - Alot of companies will have their execs donate to both parties.  blm   Aug-02-04 10:21 AM   #15 
 
ewagner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-02-04 09:30 AM
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1. I wonder
Edited on Mon Aug-02-04 09:31 AM by ewagner
if somebody on the inside will leak memos or maybe relate conversations like the ones that showed up in Outfoxed! ?
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redstateblues Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-02-04 09:31 AM
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2. It will happen-Hopefully it won't take 4 years!!
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Walt Starr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-02-04 09:32 AM
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3. Maybe Faux will go after CNN
That would be sweet.
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NewJeffCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-02-04 09:32 AM
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4. glad you noticed
The RW loves to bash anything except Fox or the Wall St Journal as liberal commie pinko radical tree huggers. That way, it implants the meme in people's minds that CNN, MSNBC, ABC, NBC, etc are liberal. So, when they actually say something that agrees with Rove's talking points, Joe Average says, "wow, even liberal CNN agrees with the Republicans, they must be right on this issue."

It's insidious.
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ewagner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-02-04 09:33 AM
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5. Excellent point! n/t
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redstateblues Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-02-04 09:35 AM
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7. Insightful
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KharmaTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-02-04 09:43 AM
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9. It's Forbidden Fruit...
Kinda like when your parents say don't and you have to find out why. When Rush says CNN is bad and evil, that's almost a buzzword now to send the dittoheads over to watch Darren Kagan or Carol Lin for their latest forbidden fruit special spin. Yes, very clever and devious.

I suggest you watch the spin cycle/blast fax machine in full tilt these days. It starts with rumors the night before on Drudge or some place out of left field...by morning the story is planted onto newspapers then onto C-Span (Washington Journal) and CNN (I'm not even gonna deal Faux into this, it's a given that by 6am Ailes has spoken to Rove)...the the story moves onto Rush and hate radio, where the story becomes molded into the spin and hardened, then sent on to the local stations and hammered even more.

By the evening news that little item the night before now has developed into a big one that still hasn't been thoroughly checked and the lie or distortion outpaces the facts...but that doesn't stop the evening newscasts to regergitate the story, then it's onto the evening food fights where the regergitation is repackaged and chewed around again...by now if the person whose the target hasn't responded, they're dead meat.

Meanwhile the story or wedge issue is being set up for the next day. Rove has many proxies planted in high places who all have been schooled in the Atwater/Gingrich school of tunnel-vision and manipulation.

Cheers.
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cthrumatrix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-02-04 10:11 AM
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13. and there is NOBODY to call them on thier bullshit...it's propaganda
No wonder Dean was "axed" when he said he would break them up.
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KharmaTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-02-04 10:29 AM
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16. There Are Some Big Broadcast De-Regulation Bills
still pending or being proposed by the broadcast lobbies that hinge on the outcome of this election. Michael Powell tried to ram through changes last year, but they were stayed by congress and then he lost in court, but that won't deter this regime and it's corporate barons...many who have already jumped the gun and acquired properties that may cost them billions in revenues if they have to be sold to get back in compliance with the existing rules. (My head hurts).

Another 4 years of Michael Powell with Billy Tauzin writing the next round of dereg would give the foxes and fauxes prefered and secured status in the soon to be developing digital broadcasting world...such as Murdoch controlling all DBS systems and Clear Channel swooping up XM Radio.

A priority of a Kerry administration is a total reviewing of the FCC and the various deregulation laws over the past 20 years.
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cthrumatrix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-02-04 09:34 AM
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6. It's closer to the election.... did you expect other?
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soothsayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-02-04 09:36 AM
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8. The CIA has a desk there, right? (i'm not making this up)
Anyone else remember hearing that said very matter-of-factly a few years ago?
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Kahuna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-02-04 09:52 AM
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10. According to Michael Moore in F911, the Saudis are major stock
holders in AOL/TW. It would stand to reason that CNN would be on the side of bushco and the saudis.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-02-04 09:54 AM
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11. The point man is the Politics Producer. I can't remember his name
Edited on Mon Aug-02-04 09:59 AM by blm
but am quite sure he's a rightwinger who participated in groups like Heritage and CNP. Probably a fundie like most CNPers.

Scratch the surface of a fundie and there's almost always a Moonie underneath.

Expose and protest that creep and then we'll get somewhere.
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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-02-04 10:09 AM
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12. Think you mean CNN's political director Tom Hannon --
I've tried from time to time since I've been at DU to find out if anyone knows anything about him. He's apparently been at CNN a number of years.

And there's another person of interest now. Jeffrey L. Bewkes, Chairman of Time Warner's Entertainment & Networks division, which includes CNN, shows up on fundrace.com as a $2,000 Kerry contributor. Riddle me that.



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redstateblues Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-02-04 10:14 AM
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14. Could Be A Cover
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-02-04 10:21 AM
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15. Alot of companies will have their execs donate to both parties.
Edited on Mon Aug-02-04 10:24 AM by blm
That way they feel represented and covered with both.

I remember back in 92 when Arco execs were in BOTH campaigns. The chairman was one of Bush's closest friends/supporters, while a VP there was a major organizer for Clinton.

They don't make decisions like that in a vacuum. It's CYA all the way.

BTW...thanks for the producer's name. I think alot about him was scrubbed, probably for the very reason that people would start to question his role. When he first came in as politics producer there was more info available on the net. Now it's difficult to find stories of his past connections to the rightwingers.
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