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Career Prole Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-31-04 09:22 PM
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Possible reason for newest NYC Terra threat?
Anonymous Letter Urges Cop Sickout During GOP Convention

NEW YORK -- In another sign of labor unrest among police heading into the Republican National Convention, someone has circulated a letter urging officers to stage a sickout on the event's first day.

http://www.wnbc.com/politics/3598457/detail.html

Yeah, call me a cynical old bastard but what better way to force cops to maintain order for the RNC than to make it unpatriotic not show up?
These poor guys have been working without a contract since October of 2002, by the way.
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NMDemDist2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-31-04 09:26 PM
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1. I think the GOP is wishing they had never planned the convention
in NYC. They were hoping to capitalize on the 9/11 anniversary but like so many things they try, it's coming back to haunt them

:evilgrin:
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Political_Junkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-31-04 09:29 PM
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3. Oh definitely,
they're well aware that they've backed themselves into a corner with this one. I'm lovin' it! Wish I could be there...
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Political_Junkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-31-04 09:26 PM
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2. Wouldn't put it passed the bastards.
Edited on Sat Jul-31-04 09:27 PM by Political_Junkie
And it has the added benefit of maybe scaring off some of the protesters.

edited 'cause I can't drink and spell at the same time.
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-31-04 09:30 PM
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4. Your answer to the question is the most logical. How else are they
to keep the men in blue on the job but challenge their patriotism. I find it appauling that NY hasn't renewed their contract. The 2 faced demons, the NYC emergency personnel were the heros, but cheney them, they don't deserve fair wages or anything like that.

Thanks for the post. :thumbsup:
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Career Prole Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-31-04 09:36 PM
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6. Sorry heroes, but we're spending it all on cops in Baghdad...
I'm sure New York's Finest will understand.
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walldude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-31-04 09:38 PM
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7. No first responders have gotten anything
good from this administration. These are the people who "really" protect us. They have been shut down, left without contracts and kept in the dark on "terrorist alerts" Just another Bush Admin hypocrisy.
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REVOLT823 Donating Member (286 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-31-04 09:53 PM
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11. Plus NYC hasn't been getting an adequate proportion
of the Homeland Defense funds, being allocated to smaller towns where chance of terror is almost nil. Now the repubs want to hold their convention there and increase their security costs even more.
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Career Prole Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-31-04 11:29 PM
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20. That's why the IBPO and the firefighters endorsed Kerry.
Shrub's a backstabbin' POS and they know it now.
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-31-04 09:32 PM
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5. This Seems Very Reasonable. Good Thinking!
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ItsMyParty Donating Member (835 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-31-04 09:39 PM
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8. Actually, I think this is to show that G. W. Bush
the great man, is unafraid to come into the line of fire to speak to the nation, blah, blah. He looks pathetic against Kerry in the Viet Nam era business and he is being exposed in the movie "F-9/11" as choking when told we were under attack and then running away for the day. They want us to invision him as a brave cowboy who walks into the line of fire with not a care to his personal safety. Wouldn't it be cool if a premature balloon popped and he shit his pants in public???!!
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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-31-04 09:44 PM
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9. Heroes don't need a living wage.
These people have a lot of nerve to ask for more pay after the Bush Regime called them heroes. I mean that should be enough for them, right?
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Career Prole Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-31-04 10:58 PM
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15. Absolutely not...heck no.
Three squares and a chance to serve the Chimperor. What else could any person want?
The International Brotherhood of Police Officers is endorsing John Kerry this year after backing shrub in 2000.
Check this crap out...mind, hold your nose...it's freeperland. :puke:
http://209.157.64.200/focus/f-news/1177548/posts
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-31-04 09:49 PM
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10. It is such a political scam all the way around
1. The weed that would be king looks so brave, to face the threats
(to campaign?)

2. Proves that Al Qaeda fears the weed and wants to get him

3. Makes sure there the cops don't strike

4. Reason to cancel the protests

So many birds with one stone, a stone called Terra

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Political_Junkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-31-04 09:53 PM
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12. Maybe an excuse to
move the convention site or to really beef up security against those nasty protesters.
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Career Prole Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-31-04 11:33 PM
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21. Ah...they're multi-tasking! Color me astounded. I didn't think they could.
Let's give 'em a stick o' gum now and watch 'em go ass over teakettle!
:D
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mdmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-01-04 12:20 AM
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25. a terror "bubble", would be how fox describes it
our brave hero was unharmed, except for his soiled pants!
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Pachamama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-31-04 10:19 PM
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13. If Cops aren't able to be at the RNC Convention, they can use MILITARY?
Hmmm...sounds like the strategy to allow the GOP to have a military lockdown in NYC is underway....I mean, what better way than to have the "Terror Threats" on NYC going out and then to have something like this sickout to justify the use of military....

Even with all the GOP's attempts to use their media whores last week to try and tear the Dem's convention apart, voters are excited and the GOP knows it. There were hardly any "protests" in Boston, the few were mostly symbolic and ofcourse peaceful....There were some Conservative Protesters (Pro-lifer, Anti-Gay Marriage etc.) but not in any significant numbers....if there had been, they would have happily shown it on TV - but they couldn't. And worse, people in the democratic party are united and voters interest peeked and they are worried....I mean how do they compete against the image of Kerry with Max Cleland and the Swift boat crew?

What the GOP is really, really worried about are the million(s) of protesters planning on showing up to NYC to protest - BUSH! This won't look good and it will be hard for the media whores to "ignore" the protests when they are in the Millions. So, what better way than to have to have these "Terror Threats" in Mid-town NYC and now this info about a police sickout....They will declare martial law and have a lockdown....all in the name of "safety"....

:think:
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Sydnie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-31-04 10:39 PM
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14. There were actually military "haz mat" teams on guard in Boston last week
I happened to be in Hyannis on Friday at a rest stop on route 6. I noticed a young man in full army uniform, bags in hand, waiting for someone to pick him up. The bus from Boston stops at that rest stop, and I assumed that he had taken the bus down.

I just had to approach him and ask him a few questions that were nagging me about the military and their stance on the convention. He was quite pleasant and I got the feeling that he was happy to have someone ask his opinion. I was a bit dismayed that he said he "wasn't much into politics" at first. Through the course of our 20 minute conversation, he told me that he had just been in Boston, on 24 hour guard for the 4 days of the convention. I asked just what his job was and he told me he was the "wmd clean up crew". He was there, just in case, he said.

He also said that the only good thing he could see that Bush had done for the military was to increase their life insurance to $250,000. We continued to talk about how even that amount would not replace a father, mother, sister brother, etc, if they were killed while serving.

By the end of our brief conversation, he had told me that most of the guys in his unit were planning on voting for Kerry and that he promised to vote too.

I was totally amazed that he could have been serving for the past 4 years and no one had stressed to him that voting could be a life and death situation for him.

So, using the military to replace the police would be just the ticket for Bush. It would make it appear that the threat to him was "bigger and more important" than the threat to the Dems. It would make for great tv for his partisan stations too.

He could even twist it to make it seem like he was thinking of the city and the men with some lame - "they put their lives on the line everyday and the city needs them more that we do right now" kind of BS.

I wouldn't put it past him. He needs a good photo op to remind us that we should be very afraid, right?
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Pachamama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-31-04 11:06 PM
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16. Welcome to the DU!
:hi: We love Newbies, especially freethinking ones to join in our little party here! :toast:

Interesting story you just shared....yep, this would be just the ticket for ole George, wouldn't it? I mean especially since he doesn't have much to show for his "military" record eh?

And yes, they do try to "rule" with the fear thing and ofcourse what better way to "stop the protesters" from excercising their first amendment rights?
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Career Prole Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-31-04 11:37 PM
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22. Cool! Way to chat 'em up, Sydnie!
Good post, and welcome to DU! :hi:
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-31-04 11:06 PM
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17. I think you got it Pachamama...
They plan on having a lockdown regardless. But, they want people to believe there is a legitimate reason to lock down a big portion of NYC - like square miles. They want people to think they are doing it for 'security" purposes - which they are, in a way - they are securing it so they do not have to cope with the demonstrations.
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Pachamama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-31-04 11:11 PM
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19. You heard it here....just wait to see what they do...I think they'll make
the G8 Summit down in Georgia look like it was a picnic in the backyard for protesters...

I have some more theories but when I saw this post, it confirmed what I've been thinking for a while....

I also think they have purposely left our "Borders" unsecured...I mean any idiot who travels or lives near the borders know that its easy to enter and exit our country if you want to....
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Career Prole Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-31-04 11:40 PM
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23. Good catch, Pachamama!
I like the way you think! :toast:
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Pachamama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-01-04 12:11 AM
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24. I see your a Navy Veteran...what do you think about Kerry vs AWOL?
I am always wondering about what Vets and military think about these two....your opinion frankly matters more as far as I'm concerned since I have never laid my life on the line like you all...

PS: Thanks for the compliment....sometimes I think too much...meditation helps quiet the mind though...what's scary is a lot of these things have been coming in to me in my dreams....I write them down, even at the time if they don't make sense and months later when I re-read some, they jump out at me and make sense....

For me the scarier dream has been a repetitive one I've had for 5 years now about nuclear war....my biggest concern has been that Bu$h is the one who will "bring it on".....
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Career Prole Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-01-04 01:02 AM
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26. It's not so much bush* who worries me as it is the people behind him.
That's an evil bunch that got him in power, and I think it's dangerous to underestimate them. They really believe there is a "ruling class" and that they're it.
As for Kerry, I've backed him since the beginning. I believe I said so here once, maybe twice. Things were pretty heated during the primary season and I was new here so I just watched for the most part.
I did like JK except out of high school instead of Yale. On my side of the tracks there wasn't going to be any college deferment.
I joined the Navy right out of high school, rode an aircraft carrier to the South China Sea, and never got any closer to Vietnam than patching up my squadrons F-4's when they got back from runs. I had a buddy who was a SEAL and a River Rat and he had some horror stories to tell about river warfare.
John Kerry did his duty as an American. He didn't assume the war was a total screw-up until he'd seen for himself, and once he'd seen for himself he did his duty as an American again by doing everything in his power to bring an end to the war. I can understand his change of heart because I went through the same thing just a bit over a year behind him.
Both of those duties he performed, both fighting in the war and then fighting against it, were equally heroic in my eyes.
That speaks to his moral clarity, IMO, not ambiguity as the GOP claims.
I trust him 100% with my daughter's country. It's my country too, of course, but she'll be here longer than me. :)
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americanstranger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-31-04 11:10 PM
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18. Choppers and surveillance planes...
I was in NYC last night. After I parked my truck in the parking garage, I walked out on to 2nd Ave. I looked up to see a sight I saw at last year's anti-war demo - a police chopper hovering above the city, just sitting in one place in the air.

We headed downtown for dinner. The entire time we were at the restaurant (dining outside), choppers buzzed overhead. At one point, a plane buzzed from south to north. My friend from out of town saw it and said, 'I thought Manhattan was a no-fly zone?'

Their aerial surveillance teams are gearing up already. New Yorkers I spoke to do not like it.

-as
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Career Prole Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-01-04 01:07 AM
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27. The governor of Kentucky better not try to fly into the RNC
unannounced like he did Reagan's funeral, is that your sense of the situation? :nuke:
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