PLAME INDICTMENTS # 15-HIGH CRIMES & MISDEMEANORS -The Tip Of The Iceberg

[Pallas180]

THE DANGER TO THE CONSTITUTIONAL DEMOCRACY BY Waterman

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At the time of the American Revolution, the "founding fathers" met in secret. They were almost exclusively from the "upper class," and needed to keep their actions secret from King George. While they may have spoken more openly as individuals, their group efforts were not known to the upper class, including the newspapers of the day.

However, the middle class and the poor spread the word. They were aware of King George's spies, so they spread the word on a democratic underground. It took root -- and grass roots democracy has been the most important part of the foundation for this country ever since. The grass roots are more powerful than those three branches of the federal government.

We're in similar circumstances today. Our president is no more in favor of democracy than old King George was. We have two chances of kicking him out of power. The most obvious is the election in November. But there's also the Plame Indictments.

If there is any life breath in the balance of powers, the legislative and judiciary must do their jobs. This is a criminal outfit. There are now numerous "upper class" people organizing to hold this administration liable for their crimes. It's not just democrats hoping to reclaim the presidency in 2004. It's a wide range of citizens who know that Bush and Cheney intend to fully destroy the constitutional democracy we should enjoy.

You and I aren't meeting in their secret get-togethers. We're that grass-roots democratic power. Our primary job is to continue to educate the public, register voters, and increase participation in those treasures defined by the Bill of Rights. Please work to spread the message about the Plame Indictments. We've seen a preview of the administration's late summer counter-offensive.

Let's expose them as totally offensive.

Thank you,

Waterman


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PLAME INDICTMENTS - "HIGH CRIMES & MISDEMEANORS- THE TIP OF THE ICEBERG"


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1. TOLL FREE # TO CONGRESS 1800 839 5276 - use it to tell them

what you think and what you want for this country.


. 1 800 839 5276 TOLL FREE TO CAPITOL HILL


and

www.congress.org - for a directory to ANYBODY on the Hill, AND their local/regional offices.

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2. A DIRECTORY TO CONTACT ANYBODY IN CONGRESS

www.congress.org - for a directory to ANYBODY on the Hill, AND their

local/regional offices.

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3. Plame Threads in MsWord format : first 12

All 12 can be found here as MSWord ".doc"s:

http://www.aeschatech.com/dumpster/plame /

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4. RECAP OF "WHY" PLAME>CHENEY>HALLIBURTON>ILLEGAL WMD TRADE

RECAP OF "WHY" PLAME>CHENEY>HALLIBURTON>ILLEGAL WMD TRADE


robertpaulsen (1000+ posts) Sun Jul-25-04 03:21 PM
Response to Reply #52

55. RECAP-PALLAS THEORY OF WHY PLAME>CHENEY>HALLLIBURTON


3. A THEORY ON THE WHY - Plame -> Cheney->Halliburton


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A THEORY ON THE WHY - Plame -> Cheney->Halliburton

On my way home today, as I thought about the why the outing of Valerie Plame was necessary, I was so engrossed I drove 4 exits past my exit.

Here's what we know:

1) Valerie Plame was "active in a sting operation involving the trafficking of Weapons of Mass Destruction components"" when her identity was exposed by the White House. It also said" Only a high-ranking official could have had access to the knowledge" that Valerie Plame was a covert CIA agent.

2) Vice President Cheney since 1995 as CEO of Halliburton was fined 1.2 milion dollars for illegal sales of components to Libya which could be used for nuclear purposes. Shortly before becoming Vice President he bitterly assailed US policy against selling such components to Syrria and Iran, which apparently hurt Halliburton's bottom line.

3) There is an investigation of Vice President Cheney in other countries for illegal bribery and various other offenses connected to Halliburton as well as paying amounts to secret Swiss bank accounts

4)The Atomic Energy Commission has said a North American company is one of 20 being investigated for black market sales of WMD materials.

Here's the theory:

Valerie Plame was stopped in her tracks and the biggest treasonous taboo of revealing a CIA sting operation was done because she/it was coming close to discovering even more serious violations of the laws against trading nuclear materials with certain countries by our own Vice President and the Hallibuton company he has awarded billions of US taxpayer dollars to in non-bid contracts after he became VP.

Recently Libya was accused of having WMD components and the US threat
ened to invade unless Quaddaffi gave the WMD components to the US.
Bush 2 was seen on TV this week inspecting the cases of returned materials from Iraq triumphantly. The fact that Quaddafi received these illegal shipments of components from Cheney/Halliburton was not
mentioned in the victory video.

Dick Cheney, even after the Senate Intel Committee, The Atomic Commission and numerous other agencies have said no WMD exist in Iraq,
insists Iraq has WMD even in the last week.

Why? Because Dick Cheney knows he, through an offshore Halliburton company with a PO Box, at some time in the past sold Saddam Hussein WMD or components of WMD. In the same way "they" under Bush 1 adminstration sold Hussein lethal gas which he used, and then attacked him for using it saying he was a threat to the community.

Why do Cheney and Bush insist they must attack Syrria and Iran as the next step in making the world safe and that Syrria and Iran have
WMD? Cheney-Halliburton know that Syrria and Iran have WMD components because Cheney illegally sold the WMD components to Syrria and Iran.

Why did Bush Cheney know that North Korea had WMD and where did they gget the components?

Why were Pakistan and India able to test and develop nuclear weapons undetected by the CIA's "big eye in the sky" or any agency's seismic
discovery? And where did India and Pakistan purchase the components
for WMD which were illegal for any company to sell them?

What was Valerie Plame investigating?


good spooks vs the bad spooks in the FBI and CIA becomes very confusing to most, I think.



Not to add confusion to my "theory " above, but I also thought:

When Saudi Arabia asked Junior and Company to get out of Saudi Arabia
afer we had built a monstrous and expensive base armed with the newest weaponry - one might call it a home base -why would they do that, when they had wanted US to protect them and their oil fields for years???

The reason given for asking us to vacate was to calm the anti-American element. Hmmm. But if they needed our protection from that very element, WHY would they ask their protector to leave.
BECAUSE they "likely" also received WMD from certain parties.

So now, we can guess, the entire Middle East is armed with illegal components of WMD...supplied by whom?hmmm

And I agree with you ROBERTPAULSEN- it's a great racket. Supply them
with the components, collect payment. Shuttle back and forth between
private employment and government employment, selling WMD for your company's bottom line while a private CEO, earning large bonuses and
deferred "payment" plus increased stock option value, go back into government, create a war on those countries who have the WMD you have sold them, then you have created a situation where your company and the other companies you hold stock in, or which belong to your other associates, can supply the army with munitions, destroy the country you have sold WMD to, and then the very same companies who supplied the munitions for destruction, go in and rebuild the country.


So. Now how many times have you profiteered?
1) illegal selling of WMD
2) earn bonus, increase value of stock options
3) Supply Army Munitions on no bid contracts
4) Rebuild the country on no bid contracts



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robertpaulsen (1000+ posts) Sun Jul-25-04 03:22 PM
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56. PALLAS THEORY - WHY BRIT INTEL WONT SHOW THEIR EVIDENCE


everyone is assuming that the Brit Intel is the same Intel that the
CIA had. (on yellowcake)

You're right about one thing...the intel agencies all share their info.BUT you are forgetting that the French have been investigating CHeney Halliburton illegalities for some time, and Cheney Halliburton
did not sell yellowcake (to our knowledge), they sold equipment that could be used for dual use - and one of the uses was for a nuklar bomb.

So there is nothing to say that the Brit Intel was the same Niger info.In fact it may not be.

WHY would they not share with the world what information they had about Iraq having WMD? And why have they suddenly changed their mindsagain saying it was bogus after all - after insisting for 1 1/2 years they had separate proof of Iraq having WMD?

Theory: because it would cause a great deal of embarrassment to "he who calls himself president of VICE ! !! a-ha!

Could be one of Halliburton's subsidiaries or offshores, whose name and connection was not recognized immediately was in the hands of Brit Intel so they said they had separate verifying proof of WMD in Iraq - only to realize the proof traced back to a company named Halliburton or Brown Root - and so they shut up. (TOP SECRET - CANNOT BE REVEALED, of course while every intel agency in the world knows, but the general public date not know becaue we would hang the perpetrator)

Highly plausible . First they say they have proof of WMD in Iraq.but refuse to show it.......now they suddenly say the proof is bogus - and still refuse to reveal it.



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robertpaulsen (1000+ posts) Sun Jul-25-04 03:23 PM
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57. H20 THEORY - RECAP


H2O Man (1000+ posts) Sat Jul-17-04 02:01 PM




We know that Valerie Plame was involved in a sting operation involving the components for WMDs. This is verfied in J. Klein's article in Time, 7-5-04. Remember also that when Novak called CI for confirmation of Plame's status -- and Robert NoFacts had told a total stranger on a public street on the day afterWilson's NYT op-ed article that she was a WMD specialist -- the CIA requested that he not only should NOT mention Wilson's wife was an operative with the Agency, but that her name should not ever be printed.

One of the things to keep in mind is that by revealing Plame's identity, it insured that at very least, a half-dozen operatives (American and other-wise) were exposed to the last people on earth that they should have been exposed to. Let's just say, for example, that there was a person who was working in the Pakistan area ... and he had worked in deep cover for over a decade, and was very, very close to accessing information on the sale of not only technology, but also components, that went to Iran .... and he had a known link to Plame .... then he would be dead 24 hours after Novak's article was printed. Further, no one in the USA would be at liberty to discuss the fact that he existed.

You will recall that I've referred to this as high stakes chess. A board game where the removal of one player compromises the safety and value of several others.

Listen: if they wanted to call Wilson's conclusions into question, they could create confusion with a series of bullshit documents from England, etc. They could have said that his was one of three US reports, and that there were the British papers that were still open to question, considering that Wilson had not viewed them. They could have even said, yes, we tend to agree with Wilson.

But they didn't. They had been waiting to reveal information on Plame for some time. The fact that Iran is sharing he focus in the recent days, along with Wilson, is a clue .... a big clue.



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robertpaulsen (1000+ posts) Sun Jul-25-04 03:24 PM
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58. CALIMARY THEORY RECAP


Pallas180 (1000+ posts) Sat Jul-17-04 05:43 PM


71. I am convinced Valerie Plame was the target, & they thought
they would do a 'Rosenberg' on them. Two for the price of one.
Set them up.Traitors to the country, electric chair, the whole bit.




calimary (1000+ posts) Sat Jul-17-04 09:47 PM
Response to Reply #71

143. That would fit in conveniently with the message they evidently wanted to put out to the intel community: the "do not cheney with us" message. Wilson has, many times, mentioned that what happened to his wife, whether to her directly or indirectly to him, was to seriously discourage others from getting "out of line." Wouldn't that just be the decisive little coup de grace - to "Rosenberg" one or both of them, to put a chill on anybody else who might be getting too dangerously close? If they knew they were not only going to be ruined, but they also faced the electric chair or some other kind of EXTREMELY final punishment, there'd be icicles hanging off all of them before you could say "BOO!"

And for awhile, they've seemed invincible, haven't they? So who would dare...

But things are a lot stickier and more complicated now. Their anticipated free ride is starting to get seriously mucked up as more people know, and talk, and spread out, and start asking questions, and some guy like Fitzgerald gets involved (who couldn't be counted on to be a "good" republi-CON after all. And, as someone else mentioned either here or on Thread 8 - they misunderestimated the internet. They thought we'd all just shut up and go to our corner and suck our thumbs and mope and cower and give up, didn't they? They didn't know we'd (literally, here) go underground...

As Martha Stewart would say - it's a VERY good thing. And it's gaining traction.

Which is what our efforts in all these arenas should do, as well. GAIN TRACTION.






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robertpaulsen (1000+ posts) Sun Jul-25-04 03:26 PM
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60. ROBERTPAULSEN THEORY HALLI>KHAN-OBL>PLAME>CHENEY


robertpaulsen (1000+ posts) Mon Jul-19-04 07:22 PM
Response to Reply #216

234. WHOA!!! Could this be circumstantial evidence of a Khan/Plame link?!


When I first read this article, I decided to post it here because of the dirt it has on a Musharraf/Khan/Bin Laden connection.

A. Q. KHAN & OSAMA BIN LADEN

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These accounts of three of the travels of Dr.A.Q.Khan establish conclusively the following facts:

He had kept the Pakistani Foreign Office informed of his travels. The Foreign Office had instructed the Pakistani diplomatic missions in the countries visited by him to accord the due honours of protocol to him.
In all the countries, he was received by officers of the Pakistani diplomatic missions and entertained by the heads of missions.
In Sudan, he was accorded the honours of protocol generally given to a member of the Cabinet and called on the President of the country.
He was accompanied by senior serving scientists of Pakistan's nuclear establishment, who were among those responsible for Pakistan's military nuclear development. They could not have gone abroad and remained absent for days without the knowledge and clearance of the Government.
At least one Lt.Gen. belonging to the Pakistan Army's Medical Corps, who had headed it, and two Brigadiers had accompanied him. They could not have gone and remained away from the country without the knowledge and clearance of the Military Headquarters.
The uranium enriched at KRL, Kahuta, used to come from Africa, mainly Niger. This partly explains the frequent travels of A.Q.Khan to Africa. From the accounts given by the Pakistani author, two intriguing questions arise:

Why did Khan consider it necessary to visit the site of a factory in Sudan, which became the target of US Cruise missile attacks after the explosions outside the US Embassies in Nairobi and Dar-es-Salaam by Al Qaeda in August 1998? The Americans had alleged at that time that this factory belonged to Osama bin Laden and was producing chemicals for weaponisation purposes. Denying this, the Sudanese authorities had claimed that it was producing anti-malaria drugs.
Why was he visiting frequently Timbuktu, which has apparently no importance from the nuclear point of view? Pakistani officials have alleged that he had illegally constructed a hotel there ( Hotel La Colombe?) in the name of his wife. If he was going there to supervise the construction of the hotel, he should have been accompanied by experts in building construction and the hotel industry. No such person accompanied him. He was always accompanied by scientists and Army officers associated with KRL and Tahir Mian, who was helping him in the procurement of centrifuges.
It is reliably learnt from well-placed observers that it also came out during the recent interrogation of the associates of Khan in Pakistan's nuclear establishment that after Osama bin Laden shifted from Khartoum to Afghanistan in 1996, Dr.Khan was also looking after bin Laden's extensive investments in the mining industry in many African countries and that the money invested in the Timbuktu hotel had come from these investments of bin Laden. The Pakistani authorities have reportedly suppressed this information and not shared it with the US.

http://www.kashmirherald.com/featuredarticle/khanandbin ...

Sooooo....

Khan, with the assistance of the Pakistani government and military, looked after bin Laden investments in Africa. Pretty bad on its own merits. But then this sentence caught my eye.


The uranium enriched at KRL, Kahuta, used to come from Africa, mainly Niger. This partly explains the frequent travels of A.Q.Khan to Africa.


What a coincidence. The enriched uranium that Khan had access to came mainly from NIGER!

Now, when Cheney sent Wilson to Niger, wasn't he aware of Plame's WMD "sting operation" in the Middle East?!

No wonder Musharraf had this reaction:

"In one of his statements, he has even blamed the US intelligence agencies for not uncovering this network earlier than October last year and asserted that if they had done so, he would have acted against it even earlier."

I know this is not direct proof of a smoking gun, but I think this information could be an extremely important piece of the puzzle. If the WMD trafficking that Plame's "sting operation" covered is linked to Khan, who got his enriched uranium mainly from Niger, and we can verify Cheney had access to this intelligence, then we are getting even closer to H20 Man and Prouty's big question: why?



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robertpaulsen (1000+ posts) Sun Jul-25-04 03:30 PM
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62. ROBERTPAULSEN - CHENEY/KHAN TIE: MOTIVE TO OUT PLAME


We all know about the $1.2 million fine Cheney got for selling dual-use components. Going back over some of my old posts, here's another bit of dirt we should all remember:

Cheney helped cover-up Pakistani nuclear proliferation in '89 so US could sell country fighter jets

Tuesday, March 16 2004 @ 04:04 PM Eastern Standard Time
Jason Leopold
When Pakistan's clandestine program involving its top nuclear scientist selling rogue nations, such as Iran and North Korea, blueprints for building an atomic bomb was uncovered last month, the world's leaders waited, with baited breath to see what type of punishment George W. Bush would inflict upon Pakistan's President Pervez Musharaff. Bush has, after all, spent his entire term in office talking tough about countries and dictators that conceal weapons of mass destruction and even tougher on individuals who supply rogue nations and terrorists with the means to build WMD. For all intents and purposes, Pakistan and Musharraf fit that description.

Remember, Bush accused Iraq of harboring a cache of WMD, which was the primary reason he gave for the United States launching a preemptive strike on that country a year ago, and also claimed that Iraq may have given its WMD to al-Qaeda terrorists and/or Syria, weapons that, Bush said, could be used to attack the U.S. Bush, Vice President Dick Cheney and top members of the administration reacted with shock when they found out that Abdul Qadeer Khan, Pakistan's top nuclear scientist, spent the past 15 years selling outlaw nations nuclear technology and equipment. So it was sort of a surprise when Bush, upon finding out about Khan's proliferation of nuclear technology, let Pakistan off with a slap on the wrist. But it was all an act. In fact, it was actually a coverup designed to shield Cheney because he knew about the proliferation for more than a decade and did nothing to stop it.

Like the terrorist attacks on 9-11, the Bush administration had mountains of evidence on Pakistan's sales of nuclear technology and equipment to nations vilified by the U.S.?nations that are considered much more of a threat than Iraq?but turned a blind eye to the threat and allowed it to happen. In 1989, the year Khan first started selling nuclear secrets on the black-market; Richard Barlow, a young intelligence analyst working for the Pentagon prepared a shocking report for Cheney, who was then secretary of defense under the Bush I administration: Pakistan built an atomic bomb and was selling its nuclear equipment to countries the U.S. said was sponsoring terrorism. But Barlow's findings, as reported in a January 2002 story in Mother Jones magazine, were "politically inconvenient."

"A finding that Pakistan possessed a nuclear bomb would have triggered a congressionally mandated cutoff of aid to the country, a key ally in the CIA's efforts to support Afghan rebels fighting a pro-Soviet government. It also would have killed a $1.4-billion sale of F-16 fighter jets to Islamabad," Mother Jones reported. Ironically, Pakistan, critics say, was let off the hook last month so the U.S. could use its borders to hunt for al-Qaeda leader and alleged 9-11 mastermind Osama bin Laden. Cheney dismissed Barlow's report because he desperately wanted to sell Pakistan the F-16 fighter planes. Several months later, a Pentagon official was told by Cheney to downplay Pakistan's nuclear capabilities when he testified on the threat before Congress. Barlow complained to his bosses at the Pentagon and was fired.

http://www.pakistan-facts.com/article.php/2004031621042 ...

That got me thinking about other facts surrounding the Plame scandal. Like the "sting operation involving the trafficking of WMD components". When Khan's operation was exposed, everyone in the loop was caught with their pants down. Musharraf had to pardon Khan because as the father of the Pakistani atomic bomb, he is a national hero. Do you buy that as the real reason? That's like accepting the Bush misadministration's silence over the pardon because Pakistan is our ally in the War on Terror. Right. Reminds me of Michael Corleone in Godfather Part II: "Keep your friends close, but your enemies closer".

My theory is that the sting operation Plame was involved in brought down A.Q. Khan. As far as "trafficking of WMD components" goes, Khan was a pretty huge player. My fear is that Khan was just the tip of the iceberg and that when Plame's operation was derailed, it allowed even bigger fish to swim away where Middle East WMD trafficking is concerned. Remember this about Musharraf:

"His repeatedly-asserted contention has been that after the interception by the intelligence agencies of the US and the UK of a ship in October last year which was found carrying to Libya a clandestine consignment of centrifuges for uranium enrichment got manufactured at the instance of A.Q.Khan by a company in Malaysia with the assistance of a Sri Lankan Muslim, he became aware of the extensive non-proliferation activities of the A.Q.Khan group and immediately acted against them.

According to Musharraf, details of the clandestine travels and proliferation network of A.Q. Khan came to notice during the subsequent investigation. In one of his statements, he has even blamed the US intelligence agencies for not uncovering this network earlier than October last year and asserted that if they had done so, he would have acted against it even earlier

http://www.kashmirherald.com/featuredarticle/khanandbin ...

If Plame was in on this sting, Musharraf certainly had a reason to voice disdain for the US intelligence agencies, and Cheney certainly had a reason to out Plame.



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robertpaulsen (1000+ posts) Sun Jul-25-04 03:32 PM
Response to Reply #62

63. Nuclear Walmart: Little Doubt that OBL has dirty bomb -


if you read Robert's post above carefully, you see that
Pakistani scientist Khan was running a Nuclear Walmart.

1)He sold the secrets of the nuclear bomb world wide. This is fact.
2)He had access to yellow cake by his trips to Africa/Niger
3)He was OBL's overseer of finances and properties, with the help
of the secret service ISI of Pakistan.

The ISI of Pakistan was also the supporter and installer of the TAliban in Afghanistan (and current protector/hider of OBL)

When Khan was exposed as the merchant of death ofa ring selling nuclear materials world wide, he was immediately pardoned by
Musharaf, PM of of Pakistan. Pardoned so fast that none of the US
Intel agencies would be able to question him.

WHY? H20 always tells us to ask WHY? Why was Khan immediately pardoned? Because to try him for criminality would have exposed
who gave him nuclear components, what corporations sold illegally,
what country and high officials were involved.

WHERE did Khan get the components which are necessary to set off
a nuclear device?

WHO? do we know who has illegally been selling nuclear dual components?

Some of these answers go back to the administration in 1988 when it
was known that administration gave other countries the miniaturized
nuke W88. Hmmmm. What current officials were in the same administration?

What was the name of the President at the time?



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robertpaulsen (1000+ posts) Sun Jul-25-04 03:35 PM
Response to Reply #63

64. Why go to the elaborate scenarios? to stop WMD investigations:


Subject: Why go to the elaborate scenarios: to stop investigations into WMD sales
Message:
Pallas180 (1000+ posts) Sun Jul-18-04 06:12 PM
Response to Reply #59

71. They're not called the Mayberry Machiavellis for nothing - I think

in a way it was the other way around, they weren't after Wilson, they were after Plame. Two for the price of one. Rosenberg them.

Cheney has been in govt since Nixon, that we know of, then Ford.
He's been around a long time with access to top security items.
To recap, we also knew he made at least 10 trips to CI HQ and would
have, could have, pinpointed who was working blackmarket WMD which
would have been of great interest to him. He would also have access
to CI files, would know of or remember Ambassador Wilson. Bingo -
the plot is hatched.

Ask her would her husband be interested in helping? Of course.
Discredit him, expose/discredit her operation and put a stop to her work and the work of the entire spy group/cell she had set up worldwide which MAY have been hot on the trail of Halliburton/Brown Root/et al illegal black market sales of components which could be used for WMD, which as we all know was Valerie's job.

He figures he's home free, no more fines, no discovery of the double dealing, but the Mayberrys call Novak and committ a treasonous act which leads right back to the WH and darth vader.

___________________________________________________________________


Pallas180 (1000+ posts) Sun Jul-18-04 09:41 PM
Response to Reply #102

117. If Pappy gave the mini nuke W88 to China,as widely reported, there is nothing to say Pappy and darth vader didn't give the same or similar components to Khan. And your theory sounds just about right - Khan would have had to be pardoned immediately because not to pardon him, the good FBI would be over there asking him where he got the WMD and the arrow would point right back to the 1988 administration # 1 and/or the current WH.

Another reason why junior sealed Pappy's records.

Nice, huh. It still sounds like treason to me at the highest levels
__________________________________________________________

robertpaulsen (1000+ posts) Sun Jul-18-04 11:01 PM
Response to Reply #117

138. Glad you agree!
The extent of treason is pretty scary. Gives me nightmares sometimes. I woke up this morning with the memory of seeing a news report: "Bush prepares for upcoming Iran invasion". That's one nightmare I'm afraid might come true.

But I take comfort in knowing we're all on the side of righteousness in this struggle

Additional edit for this thread: These theories are all different, but as far as I can see, they all fit into a pattern, like different pieces of the same jigsaw puzzle. I look forward to reading more research into these theories, as well as new theories that could give us a fresh perspective on the nature of this crime.


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shraby (1000+ posts) Tue Jul-27-04 12:44 AM
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185. There is one more aspect


to the 1-2-3-4

5.The "criminals" re-Enter government from time to time and make sure laws and regulations are such that can be most profitable to them while they and/or their friends and associates are in the private sector.

[Pallas180]

6. COMING SOON - CHENEY-HALLIBURTON-RUMSFELD-KHAN-N.KOREA & MORE

stay tuned.....

more illegal doo-doo than could ever be cleaned up from

the 1980 regime to the current regime -

Where did Pakistani Khan (of Nuclear Walmart Is Us) get the nuclear bomb(s)?

You'll love the answer to that one

[PDittie]

5. Thanks for all

that you do, Pallas.

[Pallas180]

8. We recommend: especially reading this:

Wed Jul-28-04 04:11 PM
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42. "PLENTY MORE TO SWEAR ABOUT" by Joe Klein

Edited on Wed Jul-28-04 04:14 PM by Pallas180
Sunday, Jun. 27, 2004
Plenty More to Swear About
By JOE KLEIN
The Vulcans — a campaign 2000 nickname for George W. Bush's hawkish national security team — went Krakatoa last week. Dick Cheney erupted on the Senate floor, deploying the F word against Vermont Democrat Patrick Leahy, who had been belaboring the Vice President over the no-bid deals that Cheney's old company, Halliburton, had scored in Iraq. Deputy Defense Secretary Paul Wolfowitz suffered a meltdown in a House Armed Services Committee hearing, blasting the press for "sitting in Baghdad" and "printing rumors." (He later apologized.) And the White House was forced to acknowledge that Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld had approved, at least for a while, the use of dogs, nudity, stress positions — that is, torture — against enemy combatants. Indeed, Rumsfeld, who works at a stand-up desk, indicated a desire for at least one more strenuous stress position: "I stand 8-10 hours a day," he scrawled on a memo. "Why is standing limited to 4 hours?"

Presumably the Secretary of Defense doesn't do his standing naked, continuously, in the middle of the night, surrounded by hostile guards and attack dogs. But then, Rumsfeld's blustery testosteronics are at the heart of what has gone wrong with the Bush foreign policy — and last week the assorted temper tantrums appeared to be a leading indicator of a gathering summer storm confronting this presidency.


The torture investigation is one of four major defensive battles the Administration is facing. In the weeks to come, the White House will also have to deal with the 9/11 commission's final report, the congressional investigations into the CIA's bungled assessment of Iraq's weapons of mass destruction and a special prosecutor's hunt for the White House leakers who blew the cover of CIA secret operative Valerie Plame. Not only is the Administration defending itself against the Democrats, the investigators and the media. Two other serious, surreptitious — and quite possibly unprecedented — battles are going on: the intelligence community is at war with the White House, and the uniformed military is at war with the civilian leadership of the Pentagon. The first conflict went public last week with news of the impending publication of Imperial Hubris: Why the West Is Losing the War on Terrorism, a book by an anonymous author who is known to be a senior CIA official and former chief of the agency's Osama bin Laden station. The invasion of Iraq was "an avaricious, premeditated, unprovoked war against a foe who posed no immediate threat," the author writes. "There is nothing that bin Laden could have hoped for more than the American invasion and occupation of Iraq."

Michael Moore couldn't have said it any better — and this book was vetted by CIA censors. In fact, the views of Anonymous are an accurate reflection of the opinions I've heard from multiple intelligence sources. The spooks seem to believe that outgoing CIA Director George Tenet was strong-armed by Cheney and Rumsfeld into overassessing Iraq's WMD capacity. This may or may not be true, but it is the conventional wisdom in the intelligence community. Furthermore, there is intense anger over the White House's revealing the identity of Plame, who may have been active in a sting operation involving the trafficking of WMD components. Plame was outed in a White House attempt to discredit the finding of her husband, former Ambassador Joseph Wilson, that there was no evidence that Iraq tried to buy yellowcake uranium from Niger. "Only a very high-ranking official could have had access to the knowledge that Plame was on the payroll" of the CIA, an intelligence source told me.

more...

http://www.time.com/time/magazine/printout/0,8816,11010 ...

I reprint this article that we have been referencing since the first thread because the knowledge of this "sting operation involving the trafficking of WMD components" provides us with clues for a MOTIVE to blow Valerie Plame's cover. Exploring the reasons "why" gives us a clearer understanding of the scope of this treasonous act and leads to the next logical query in any criminal investigation: who benefited?


Here's the $1.2 million link


Maybe RebelYell could send this along with Cheney speech link to Robert Palast. He'd laugh his ass off and spread the word!

A Halliburton Primer
Thursday, July 11, 2002


Following President Bush's demand for more corporate accountability, public interest group Judicial Watch, Inc., filed suit against Vice President Cheney and the Halliburton Company, alleging accounting fraud during Cheney's stewardship of Halliburton in the 1990s. The U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission is also investigating Halliburton's accounting practices.


Judicial Watch Sues Cheney, Halliburton (AP, July 10, 2002)

Following is a brief explanation of Cheney's involvment with Halliburton and the pending lawsuit and SEC investigation.

What is Halliburton Co.?

The Dallas-based Halliburton Company provides products and services to the petroleum and energy industries to aid in the exploration, development and production of natural resources. Halliburton KBR, the company's engineering and construction division, designs, builds and provides additional services for the energy industry, governments and civil infrastructure. Halliburton employs 85,000 people in over 100 countries.

Halliburton came under fire in the early '90s for supplying Libya and Iraq with oil drilling equipment which could be used to detonate nuclear weapons. Halliburton Logging Services, a former subsidiary, was charged with shipping six pulse neutron generators through Italy to Libya. In 1995, the company pled guilty to criminal charges that it violated the U.S. ban on exports to Libya. Halliburton was fined $1.2 million and will pay $2.61 million in civil penalties.

During his chairmanship of Halliburton, Cheney criticized U.S. sanctions against "rogue" nations such as Iran and Libya in a 1998 speech. According to a July 26, 2000, Washington Post story, Cheney complained the sanctions "are nearly always motivated by domestic political pressure, the need for Congress to appeal to some domestic constituency."

On Edit - and there's a little matter of selling to Iraq, Iran, Syrria, Libya, Burma, Pakistan, you name it....under offshore companies, too.


http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/onpolitics/article ...

[Pallas180]

9. PDITTIE, Thanks, I'm just secretary to the grassrooters here, join us caus

the more the merrier. Luv that picture of Big Dawg



And thanks from Koho, Shraby, Me, DEMINNC, Beam Me Up, H20,

Stand Up, Tactical, Calimary,RobertPaulsen, Jelly Bean and all the

guys and gals who have helped this project for the last 14 threads!

One day, I'll make a list of everybody.....but not today

LOL

[carols]

7. Take Action! Stop the Plame Cover-up!

Don’t Let the Bush Administration Sweep the Plame Case Under the Carpet!

Heard much about the Valerie Plame case recently? No? We haven’t either, and that is a shame because the Bush administration’s “outing” of Valerie Plame might just be their downfall

The neo-con cabal currently illegally occupying the White House has certainly put a lot of time and energy into discrediting Valerie Plame and her husband, Ambassador Joseph Wilson. First, the “talking heads” delivered the “this is just some guy trying to sell a book” line. Then they attacked Mr. Wilson’s character. And recently, they have unearthed an alleged attempt by Saddam Hussein to actually purchase the much-disputed uranium. The funny thing is, even if Mr. Wilson was just trying to sell a book and even if he turned out to be shadier than an old-time medicine show hawker and even if there really was an attempt to purchase uranium in Nigeria…even if all this is true, exposing a CIA agent is still TREASON!

It’s time we reminded the media and our elected representatives of this fact. Don’t let Bush’s smoke and mirrors obscure the central issue in this case. Please take action today. It will only take a minute.

See: http://www.legitgov.org/action_plame_073004.html for details regarding this action!

Also posted on Democracy for America blog
http://www.democracyforamerica.com/forums/viewtopic.php...

[Pallas180]

10. Welcome Carol. Nice web work.

[Pallas180]

11. 3 MORE "SUGGESTED/GUIDE" LETTERS TO SEND-take yr pick

H20's SUGGESTED LETTER TO MEDIA & CONGRESS

for you to copy or use as a guide to send:
Here's a suggestion ......


Dear _________;

I am writing to express my concerns about on-going efforts to discredit Ambassador Joseph Wilson. In his NYT Op-Ed article "What I Didn't Find In Africa," Wilson exposed a claim by President Bush in his 2003 State of the Union Address to be untrue. Since that time, the White House has been involved in an effort to destroy Wilson's reputation, which included exposing his wife as a CIA operative.

In John Dean's review of Wilson's book (NYT Book Review; 5-23-04; pg9) he documents that two days after the op-ed article ran, journalist Robert Novak was telling people that Wilson's wife Valerie Plame was a CIS "weapons of mass destruction specialist."

Novak exposed Plame's identity in a 7-14-03 column. He sourced his story to two "senior administration officials." These two senior White House officials had lobbied at least six journalists to expose Plame in what Dean calls a "you-hurt-us-we-will-hurt-you warning" to those tempted to expose administration "misinformation."

When Wilson appeared on MSNBC's "Countdown," host Keith Olbermann held up three identical e-mails from the White House. Olbermann explained their intent was to discredit Wilson with their "talking points."

Wilson has noted that Sandy Berger, President Clinton's national security advisor pointed out that since the Bush people never back down, the fact that they had admitted an error after the op-ed article indicated "they must have something more important to protect." (The Politics of Truth, by Wilson; pg4)

Joseph Klein's 7-5-04 article in Time (Plenty More to Swear About; pg 21) reveals that Plame was "active in a sting operation involving the trafficking of WMD components" when her identity was exposed by the White House. "Only a high-ranking official could have had access to the knowledge that Plame was on the pay-roll," an intelligence source told Klein.

There is clearly more to this story than the White House and senate republicans are willing to tell the public. What investigation by Plame needed to be derailed by the White House? I hope that national leaders and the media will focus attention on this important issue.

Sincerely,


____________________________________________________________________

KOHO'S SHORT & SWEET SUGGESTED LETTER TO SEND


Dear_________;

I am writing about the outing of CIA Agent Valerie Plame. It seems that the Grand jury Investigation has wrapped up or will soon, but little has been mentioned of late. What may have been political payback to Joe Wilson for refuting the Niger yellowcake claims in the State of the Union address could have actually made this country a great deal less safe. According to Joseph Klein (Time 7-5-04--Plenty More to Swear About), Plame may have been "active in a sting operation involving the trafficking of WMD components." If this is true (or even a possibility, those responsible must be brought to justice. I submit that underground trafficking of WMD components presents a far more imminent threat to our country than Saddam Hussein did. In my mind this certainly achieves the status of "High Crimes," and I urge you to not let this issue fall by the wayside. The security of our country may have been irretrievably harmed by a few high ranking officials and they must be brought to task.

Sincerely,


_____________________________________________________________________
PALLAS' 'GIVE EM HELL' SUGGESTED LETTER

Dear ____________


Concerning Time magazine's Joe Klein's July 5 article, page 21 revealed that Valerie Plame was "active in a sting operation involving the trafficking of Weapons of Mass Destruction components"" when her identity was exposed by the White House. It also said" Only a high-ranking official could have had access to the knowledge" that Valerie Plame was a covert CIA agent.

1) Our study group has found that Vice President Cheney since 1995 as CEO of Halliburton was fined 1.2 milion dollars for illegal sales of similar components to Libya. Shortly before becoming Vice President he bitterly assailed US policy against selling such components to Syrria and Iran, which apparently hurt Halliburton's bottom line.

2) Our study group has also found that there is an investigation of Vice President Cheney in other countries for illegal bribery and various other offenses connected to Halliburton as well as paying amounts to secret Swiss bank accounts

3)The Atomic Energy Commission has said a North American company is one of 20 being investigated for black market sales of WMD materials.

Our study group suspects there is more to the White House revealing Valerie Plame's covert CIA status since the Republicans refuse to hold investigations on the matter.

Frankly, it would appear to us that possibly Valerie Plame was stopped in her tracks and the CIA sting operation was exposed because it was coming close to discovering another violation of the laws by our own Vice President and the Hallibuton company he has awarded billions of US taxpayer dollars to in non-bid contracts.

There is a question of where the Vice President's and President's loyalty lies: to their Corporate friends and company's bottom line or to the security and wellbeing of the America.n people?

In any case, the exposure of Valerie Plame by the White House was and is treasonous.

The responsibility of the Media and Congress is to expose these wrong doings, investigate and safeguard against this type of occurrence for the American people.

WHY are you not fulfilling your role to me, to my study group, and the rest of the American people in this country and WHEN will you start ?


Sincerely

[Pallas180]

12. Contact Individual Reporters through this site:

Individual Reporters & Newspaper List

forgive me, it's on the drudge rag site, but it's useful

http://www.drudgereport.com /

[Pallas180]

100. SEND THESE LETTERS ABOVE-THEY GOTTA KNOW WE'RE WATCHING!

and we're mad as hell and not gonna take it anymore!

[carols]

18. Thank you! I would of replied sooner but...

my husband was dusting the wires on the back of our hub and router
Guess he dusted a bit too vigorously!
Carol

[Me.]

23. Goodie!

Even more people writing letters

[Pallas180]

13. Pappy & Juniors" New World Order" thrills & chills -mostly chills:

"There will be, in the next generation or so, a pharmacological

method of making people love their servitude, and producing

dictatorship without tears, so to speak, producing a kind of

painless concentration camp for entire societies, so that people

will in fact have their liberties taken away from them, but will

rather enjoy it, because they will be distracted from any desire to

rebel by propaganda or brainwashing, or brainwashing enhanced by

pharmacological methods. And this seems to be the final revolution."


Aldous Huxley's lecture to The California Medical School in San Francisco in 1961

(Edit - the one exception is those with the internet available to them, they didn't count on that on 1961)

[Pallas180]

14. Henry Kissinger: A little manipulation should get them ready-911 anyone?

"Today Americans would be outraged if U.N. troops entered Los

Angeles to restore order; tomorrow they will be grateful. This is

especially true if they were told there was an outside threat from

beyond, whether real or promulgated, that threatened our very

existence. It is then that all peoples of the world will plead with

world leaders to deliver them from this evil. The one thing every

man fears is the unknown. When presented with this scenario,

individual rights will be willingly relinquished for the guarantee

of their well being granted to them by their world government."

Henry Kissinger, Speaking at Evian, France, May 21, 1992. Bilderberg

meeting.

[Pallas180]

15. We suggest you google membership of the Trilateral Commission Quote here

And of course Pappy is a member. New World Order, anyone?

"The Trilateralist Commission is international... ...is

intended to be the vehicle for multinational consolidation of the

commercial and banking interests by seizing control of the political

government of the United States. The Trilateralist Commission

represents a skillful, coordinated effort to seize control and

consolidate the four centers of power - political, monetary,

intellectual, and ecclesiastical."


Barry Goldwater (1909-1998) US Senator (R-Arizona), in his book "With No Apologies"

[Pallas180]

16. And finally a word from Mussolini:

"Fascism should more appropriately be called Corporatism because it

is a merger of State and corporate power."

Benito Mussolini, 1883-1945, Fascist dictator of Italy

[Pallas180]

17. Does the above give you an idea why this's the most important election of

your lifetime?


check out thread 14 for eyeopeners.

Your country is being controlled by the criminal element that was
convicted in Watergate and Iran-Contra and then pardoned, plus a few
others who got away scott free but are back in power .

Don;t just read it, get on that toll free phone number and call
every Senator and Congresscritter and tell them you're onto them
and you won't let the Constitution of The United States be nullified.

And you're looking for trials for treason of those in power now.

Again, check out thread 14 for a birds eye view of how criminalized
and treasonous the people in this current government are.

[Spiffarino]

246. Mussolini was a fake.

Much like our current leaders.

From Thom Hartmann's brilliant article, The Ghost of Vice President Wallace Warns: "It Can Happen Here":

...(VP Henry) Wallace was using the classic definition of the word "fascist" - the definition Mussolini had in mind when he claimed to have invented the word. (It was actually Italian philosopher Giovanni Gentile who wrote the entry in the Encyclopedia Italiana that said: "Fascism should more appropriately be called corporatism because it is a merger of state and corporate power." Mussolini, however, affixed his name to the entry, and claimed credit for it.)

[shraby]

22. There is a new twist to this pharmacological

thing..there is a new law coming down the pike that says all Americans will be tested for mental illness starting with the school children and extending to all. Sorry I don't have a link, but it's been discussed on du and I did see the article.

[Pallas180]

26. IMPLANTS anyone? The NewManchurian Candidate -GO SEE IT

speaking of the next advance in pharmacology -

so different from the original...based on today's politics

villain's name is Prentiss - does that sound familiar?

Company that controls the world behind the scenes is
Manchurian Global - invents implants -

The movie is powerful.

(Shraby - yest I saw the article - when are they going to start
tattooing? )

Every mother should fight this - not send the kid to school.

This govt. is out of hand.....each step taken as another abridgement
of rights, until you dont realize what has happened but you've got Nazi Germany. I mean it.

[shraby]

33. I agree.

If they have a drug that makes people more compliant, what better way to get a large percentage "compliant"?

Education as to what is going on is their enemy as well as the internet is their enemy. We can fight this one with one hand tied behind our backs. Only takes one hand to type even if it has to be spread as an urban legend.<G>

[coeur_de_lion]

19. The Case Against George W. Bush (by Ron Reagan)

http://www.esquire.com/cgi-bin/printtool/print.cgi?page...

<<snip>>
It may have been the guy in the hood teetering on the stool, electrodes clamped to his genitals. Or smirking Lynndie England and her leash. Maybe it was the smarmy memos tapped out by soft-fingered lawyers itching to justify such barbarism. The grudging, lunatic retreat of the neocons from their long-standing assertion that Saddam was in cahoots with Osama didn't hurt. Even the Enron audiotapes and their celebration of craven sociopathy likely played a part. As a result of all these displays and countless smaller ones, you could feel, a couple of months back, as summer spread across the country, the ground shifting beneath your feet. Not unlike that scene in The Day After Tomorrow, then in theaters, in which the giant ice shelf splits asunder, this was more a paradigm shift than anything strictly tectonic. No cataclysmic ice age, admittedly, yet something was in the air, and people were inhaling deeply. I began to get calls from friends whose parents had always voted Republican, "but not this time." There was the staid Zbigniew Brzezinski on the staid NewsHour with Jim Lehrer sneering at the "Orwellian language" flowing out of the Pentagon. Word spread through the usual channels that old hands from the days of Bush the Elder were quietly (but not too quietly) appalled by his son's misadventure in Iraq. Suddenly, everywhere you went, a surprising number of folks seemed to have had just about enough of what the Bush administration was dishing out. A fresh age appeared on the horizon, accompanied by the sound of scales falling from people's eyes. It felt something like a demonstration of that highest of American prerogatives and the most deeply cherished American freedom: dissent.
Oddly, even my father's funeral contributed. Throughout that long, stately, overtelevised week in early June, items would appear in the newspaper discussing the Republicans' eagerness to capitalize (subtly, tastefully) on the outpouring of affection for my father and turn it to Bush's advantage for the fall election. The familiar "Heir to Reagan" puffballs were reinflated and loosed over the proceedings like (subtle, tasteful) Mylar balloons. Predictably, this backfired. People were treated to a side-by-side comparison—Ronald W. Reagan versus George W. Bush—and it's no surprise who suffered for it. Misty-eyed with nostalgia, people set aside old political gripes for a few days and remembered what friend and foe always conceded to Ronald Reagan: He was damned impressive in the role of leader of the free world. A sign in the crowd, spotted during the slow roll to the Capitol rotunda, seemed to sum up the mood—a portrait of my father and the words NOW THERE WAS A PRESIDENT.

The comparison underscored something important. And the guy on the stool, Lynndie, and her grinning cohorts, they brought the word: The Bush administration can't be trusted. The parade of Bush officials before various commissions and committees—Paul Wolfowitz, who couldn't quite remember how many young Americans had been sacrificed on the altar of his ideology; John Ashcroft, lip quivering as, for a delicious, fleeting moment, it looked as if Senator Joe Biden might just come over the table at him—these were a continuing reminder. The Enron creeps, too—a reminder of how certain environments and particular habits of mind can erode common decency. People noticed. A tipping point had been reached. The issue of credibility was back on the table. The L-word was in circulation. Not the tired old bromide liberal. That's so 1988. No, this time something much more potent: liar.

Politicians will stretch the truth. They'll exaggerate their accomplishments, paper over their gaffes. Spin has long been the lingua franca of the political realm. But George W. Bush and his administration have taken "normal" mendacity to a startling new level far beyond lies of convenience. On top of the usual massaging of public perception, they traffic in big lies, indulge in any number of symptomatic small lies, and, ultimately, have come to embody dishonesty itself. They are a lie. And people, finally, have started catching on.
<<snip>>

[Pallas180]

20. The cat says

kick it!

[never cry wolf]

21. Have you guys seen this? Deja Vu: The Ongoing Civil War, and the Bush

The illuminatti thread had a link to a DU thread from last Feb. by thingfish, here: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...

Later in that thread there was a link to the original site for "DejaVu in America: The Ongoing Civil War, and the Bush Family's Role In It."

http://www.winterboy.com/dejavu.html

Tons of info there on all sorts of BFEE dirty dealings. I'm not sure how accurate it all is, I have only had a chance to skim, nor am I sure how relevant it is to this investigation, but I am sure there are some things there that are relevant.

[shraby]

24. Here is a good workup on the BCCI

which will tie into what we have already.

<http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph... >

[never cry wolf]

25. I just came from that thread, I was gonna post a link here

It does tangentially tie in alot of things.

[Pallas180]

30. STEVIET You mean like this:

[Pallas180]

28. I've heard of Octafish and Seemslikeadream doing a lotta work on similar

subject.

[Pallas180]

32. Madsen: GRAND JURY WILL SOON ISSUE EXPLOSIVE INDICTMENTS

Dick Cheney is the President of the Senate, on whose hallowed floor he has just told Senator Patrick Leahy (D-VT) to “fuck off.” This regime is losing control of itself. The supra-governmental long-term plans that illegally drove them into office gave them a false sense of invulnerability. The money powers that make American presidencies had anointed Cheney and crew to run the country, so they could break as many rules, careers, laws, and heads as they chose – so long as they delivered the right number of barrels-per-day at the right price. They can’t. Having profligately wasted their political capital on torture, budgetary pork, and tax cuts, they have almost nothing left now that they’ve failed their sponsors.

In this latest report on the unfolding Plame investigation, Wayne Madsen shows what a long list of CIA people and projects have been compromised by the leak. John “Karl Rove” Doe and John “Dick Cheney” Doe seem to have no idea what kind of hibernating grizzly bear they’ve been jabbing at. They’ll find out now, because it just woke up. –JAH]

June 25, 2004 1600 PDT (FTW) – Washington, DC. Well-placed U.S. government sources have revealed that the secret grand jury, led by special prosecutor Patrick Fitzgerald, will soon issue explosive indictments in the criminal investigation of who leaked the name of Valerie E. Plame, a CIA clandestine agent and wife of former U.S. Ambassador Joe Wilson, to members of the media. On June 24, special prosecutor Patrick Fitzgerald interviewed President Bush at the White House for 70 minutes, an indication that Fitzgerald's investigation is nearing completion and that indictments may be imminent. Bush was seated with his recently-hired criminal defense attorney, Jim Sharp, during the interview.

U.S. intelligence sources have also said that Fitzgerald's investigation has gone far beyond the mere leaking of Plame's name, itself a violation of the Intelligence Identities Protection Act, but has expanded to look into the exposure of Plame's colleagues who worked under the cover of a CIA firm called Brewster, Jennings & Associates. The "brass plate" CIA proprietary had offices in Boston and Washington, DC. Active since 1994, Brewster-Jennings was instrumental in tracking the proliferation of weapons of mass destruction (WMDs) and had agents or correspondents in a number of countries including Iraq, North Korea, Belarus, Russia, South Africa, Iran, Israel, China, Pakistan, Congo (Kinshasa), India, Taiwan, Libya, Syria, Serbia, and Malaysia. By releasing Valerie Plame’s name, other agents' non-official covers were blown and the lives of U.S. operatives within foreign governments and businesses may have been placed in danger. Therefore, Fitzgerald's investigation has reportedly been expanded to include the issue of whether members of the staffs of President Bush and Vice President Cheney, Cheney and Bush themselves, the National Security Council, and the Departments of Defense and State, may have violated more serious espionage laws.

In July 2003, the covert operations of Plame and her Brewster-Jennings colleagues were rolled up as a result of the White House leak to columnist Robert Novak and other journalists. Observers believe the White House was retaliating for the report by Wilson that the administration was incorrect when it stated that Iraq was shopping for "yellow cake" uranium in Niger. On behalf of the CIA, Wilson visited Niger prior to the Iraq war and determined that the administration's evidence was based on erroneous information and falsified documents.

The special prosecutor has been focusing on Bush, Cheney, presidential counselor Karl Rove, Cheney's chief of staff Lewis I. ("Scooter") Libby, Cheney assistants David Wurmser and John Hannah, and National Security Council officials Elliott Abrams and Stephen Hadley.

Recently, CIA Director George Tenet and Plame's ultimate boss, Deputy Director of Operations James Pavitt, suddenly resigned within hours of one another. Intelligence sources have said the two have been cooperating with Fitzgerald's investigation of the Plame/Brewster-Jennings leak and the damage to U.S. clandestine operations which globally track the flow of WMDs.

Sensitive CIA operations that were compromised by the leak included companies, government officials, and individuals associated with the nuclear smuggling network of Pakistan's chief nuclear scientist Abdul Qadeer Khan. In addition, the identities of U.S. national and foreign agents working within the headquarters of the International Atomic Energy Agency in Vienna, North Korea's nuclear laboratory in Yongbyon, Pakistan's Kahuta uranium enrichment plant, banks and export companies in Dubai, Islamabad, Moscow, Cape Town, Tel Aviv, Liechtenstein, Cyprus, and Kiev, and Kuala Lumpur, and government agencies in Libya, Pakistan, Malaysia, and Iran were severely compromised. The CIA has reportedly given Fitzgerald highly classified details on the damage done to the CIA's WMD tracking network.

According to Department of Justice insiders, the length of Fitzgerald's 70 minute interview of Bush was significant. Only one other prosecutor's interview of a sitting president lasted as long, that of Iran-contra prosecutor Lawrence Walsh's questioning of the late Ronald Reagan. However, in that case, Walsh concluded after the interview that Reagan actually did not know what had transpired in his administration with respect to the scandal. Today’s officials may not be so fortunate.

http://www.fromthewilderness.com/free/ww3/062504_grand_ ...

[Pallas180]

34. Fitzgerald going after *ush-Cheney but doesn't look like

he's hit upon the fact that she was exposed to stop
the uncovering of his treasonous sales of WMD.

Well, I guess they feel getting him on one treasonous act
is enough ----but it means the whole cabal from Pappy to
Cheney won't be revealed to the American Public

We have letter writing to do of our theory of why
Cheney exposed Plame -

Do we dare send it to Fitzgerald himself?

[shraby]

38. With the investigation widened

like it has, it undoubtedly will uncover the Cheney ties. I don't know how it can miss them. Fitzgerald probably has all we've found plus some we can't even imagine. I just find it incredibly hard to wait for the stuff to come out. If he misses what we have, it's time to push it. I wouldn't want to interfere with Fitz and inadvertantly mess him up. The trial will last for several months and we can help fill in missing parts then.

When Kerry gets elected, he still has unfinished business with the BCCI boys and the Iran/Contra bunch..funny thing, many are the same people. Maybe he'd like to tie them all up in the Plame trial which wouldn't be too much of a stretch to nail all of the perps in this one event.

[Pallas180]

43. Schraby - that's what you,I, we are hoping for, but like FDR they

may not want to admit to the American people just how bad
those who are in control of the govt. now, and who have been
since 1980, are.

I've been reading a lot of stuff other DU'ers linked since 2003.
EEEEwwwww.

like this:

EXCERPT...

"Then in 1989 when the so-called Iraq Gate scandal began to break open, there were Congressional hearings about Bushonian mischief making with Saddam Hussein. But who remembers that now? Many senior Reagan-Bush people were inculpated in a scheme to illegally transfer non-conventional American weapons systems to Saddam."

"When Senator Christopher Dodd's committee attempted to subpoena Saddam Hussein, that subpoena was the only subpoena issued by the Iraq Gate investigating committee that was blocked by the Bush Regime. He was told to keep himself scarce and Saddam kept himself scarce when the Democratically controlled committee was investigating Bushonian involvement in the illicit transfer on non-conventional weapons systems to Iraq. That was when Saddam suddenly went on this holiday someplace in the Caspian Sea."

Al Martin's reference to "Saddam, Watch Out for That Soap" comes from the fact that Enemies of Bush have often died very "conveniently" at very "convenient" times.

"It should also be remembered how CIA doper George Morales supposedly slipped on a bar of soap in prison and was killed when his head hit the floor," Martin reminds his readers. "That was one day before he was due to be released -- when he was going to Washington to testify before the Kerry Committee hearing."

"So Saddam -- remember what happened to the other right wing dictators."

(remember on thread #14 the news that Saddam has had a stroke?)

http://www.conspiracyplanet.com/channel.cfm?channelid=2


Did you read about Pappy's clean-up wars? former business partners who knew too much.

And about Wackenhut.

Things we've touched on on other threads by finding newspaper articles, but this site wrote it up before all the info was in, apparently before Clinton's admin was over.

[shraby]

48. I've read those things

FDR had to walk on eggs to accomplish what he did. Now with so many people knowing what has been going on, Kerry just might be able to blow the whole thing wide open and let the chips fall where they may. That's the only thing that will put people's trust back in the government that has been missing since at least John Kennedy's death. He also needs to open all those files too. Let it all hang out and bring people to justice that are overdue.

(might clean out just a few bad republicans)

[Pallas180]

50. Schraby, I'm thinking

that if he tried, he wouldn't live very long.

If he's elected, he's going to be in great danger - immediately.

[hang a left]

92. I can't help but wonder if this thing is about to blow and that is why

Kerry plans to lay low in August.

[robertpaulsen]

144. Hello! Taking a break from American Judas for a couple hours.

I've got everything organized and outlined and soon I'll have the first draft ready, hopefully either tomorrow or Tuesday. I'm posting here because this info from Madsen is definitely going in the paper. Madsen has many of the pieces of the puzzle, but doesn't make it clear to the reader that Fitzgerald is exploring Plame's connection with Khan's Nuclear Walmart.

At least that's what I read into the article from this paragraph:

Sensitive CIA operations that were compromised by the leak included companies, government officials, and individuals associated with the nuclear smuggling network of Pakistan's chief nuclear scientist Abdul Qadeer Khan. In addition, the identities of U.S. national and foreign agents working within the headquarters of the International Atomic Energy Agency in Vienna, North Korea's nuclear laboratory in Yongbyon, Pakistan's Kahuta uranium enrichment plant, banks and export companies in Dubai, Islamabad, Moscow, Cape Town, Tel Aviv, Liechtenstein, Cyprus, and Kiev, and Kuala Lumpur, and government agencies in Libya, Pakistan, Malaysia, and Iran were severely compromised. The CIA has reportedly given Fitzgerald highly classified details on the damage done to the CIA's WMD tracking network.

This tells me Fitzgerald is on the trail that will lead to the truth. This along with the news that he had Powell in for questioning two weeks ago has given me a renewed sense of hope that this investigation has LONG legs!

[shraby]

146. I read that too and I think

he is definitely on target. Enough to move the tectonic plates all over the world.

Betcha he caught some relating some untruths, too.

[robertpaulsen]

147. That's a good theory for why gathering the indictments is taking so long.

"Betcha he caught some relating some untruths, too."

I bet that when the indictments finally do come out, many of them will be charged with perjury.

Hey, do you know if dimson was under oath when he had that 70 minute talk with Fitzgerald? Could anything he said be used against him?

[shraby]

157. If I recall, he wasn't.

But that doesn't mean his testimony jibes with the other ones Fitz has.

[kohodog]

36. Thanks Pallas!

We'll see how this plays out. I think Fitzgerald sounds like a stand up guy...you've got to be tough to be in his shoes. I can't imagine the pressure!

[Pallas180]

27. Thanks Steviet, let's check it out & bring over applicable.

[Pallas180]

29. From Steviet: TIMELINE OF CORRUPTION OF AMERICA

ONE: 1701-1900
The founding of Yale University; second President John Adams almost destroys new Republic; racists attempt to destabilize Union, killing President Lincoln and others; first oil wells drilled for kerosene; populist politics weaken stranglehold of industrial trusts; railroad baron E.H. Harriman begins journey to apex of investment world.

TWO: 1900-1920
George W's ancestors: Samuel Bush, Prescott Bush Sr, and George 'Bert' Walker, intersect with E.H. Harriman's railroad empire; Texas discovers big oil; Yale in China; Teddy Roosevelt pushes progressive agenda- also forms the Bureau of Investigation; Prescott Bush lies about military service; WWI demonstrates world dependence on oil; Bushes, Walkers and Harrimans join forces, invest in war weapons; J. Edgar Hoover rises through ranks; Ku Klux Klan re-forms; American citizens embrace anti-immigrant and fascist ideologies; Halliburton incorporates; Iraq gives up the oil; race riots sweep America.

THREE: 1920-1930
WWI allies carve up Middle East; American fascist groups gain in size, popularity; Attorney General Palmer rounds up thousands of European Jews, radicals, progressives; Red Scare; Prescott Bush marries into Walker family fortune; Henry Ford publishes anti-semitic lit; Bush friends Dulles brothers legal counsel to Nazis; Republican Teapot Dome oil scandal; Bush, Walker, Harriman shipping line smuggles German agents, Nazi propaganda, money for bribing American politicians; Union Banking Corp founded by Bush, Harriman, Fritz Thyssen to manage German investment and launder Nazi money; J. Edgar Hoover heads BI; stock market, de-regulated by Republican administrations, collapses under its own corruption.

FOUR: 1931-1939
Brown Brothers, Harriman merge; Un-American Activities committee investigates US fascist groups, Nazi propaganda; Prescott Bush buys into CBS; J. Edgar Hoover manipulates press, politicians, lives the high life; Hitler enters government with legal and financial help from Dulles brothers, Bush/Harriman; after the Reichstag fire, German Constitution and all civil liberties suspended; US radio broadcasts 'Christian Fascism' hatred of Jews, Communism, unions, Roosevelt; Nazi-US commerce coordinated through Bush/Harriman bank UBC; 'deranged loner' shoots at Roosevelt; Socal, later Unocal, obtains exclusive oil concession in Saudi Arabia; Eugenics movement spreads to US; Hitler's plan to 'Germanize' America; Polish government fights Bush/Harriman, Nazi stockholders for control of Poland's largest industry- whose workforce will soon be sent from Auschwitz; young law student Richard Nixon recruited for NY law firms by Dulles brothers and first head of American intelligence Bill Donovan; US German groups boycott Jewish merchants; Congressman LBJ slides lucrative contracts to campaign financiers Brown & Root (later Halliburton); Leo Strauss' neo-con ideologies; Jewish mobsters combat anti-semites; new head of Un-American Activities Committee changes focus, compiles blacklist of liberals, anti-fascists; German-American Nazi camps in small-town America; numerous House Republians use offices to: disseminate pro-Hitler/fascist literature, visit with Nazi propagandists, publicly support Nazi regime while condemning Roosevelt; Hitler invades Poland, ending Bush/Harriman-Poland legal battle.

FIVE: 1940-1944
Britain goes to war against Germany; Roosevelt pressured to stay out of war by pro-Nazi House members; Nixon loves Cuba, United Fruit Co; Nazi Germany manipulates Republican, Democratic party platforms; Henry Ford, Charles Lindberg, Herbert Hoover, future Nixon speechwriter Patrick Buchanan, Gerald Ford, pro-Nazi Silver Shirts and Klansmen- all form America First Committee, attract over a million members; Nixon joins Navy; Brown & Root receives first military contracts; Roosevelt establishes OSS; Harriman becomes Ambassador; Prescott Bush's partner advocates terror-bombing of civilians; Pearl Harbor; 'Yale in China' an intelligence front; Congress investigates House members under pay of Nazis- lead whistle-blower dies in plane crash; Roosevelt seizes three Bush/Harriman/Nazi companies, but US allows Bush/Harriman to hold onto some of their business and/or German stock- Bush likely trading intelligence on Germany for immunity from prosecution; Hoover bails out corrupt ex-FBI Republican bagman, who later dies in plane crash; George Bush Sr uses family connections to become Navy's youngest fighter pilot; United Fruit Co oppresses Guatemala; Joe Kennedy Jr dies in plane crash.

SIX: 1945-1950
US drops the bomb on a Japan trying to surrender; Richard Nixon returns from Navy, connects with Dulles brothers; organized illegal Jewish immigration to Palestine swells Jewish population there; a 'selection committee' of Eastern bankers like Bush/Harriman, California mobsters like Mickey Cohen offer to underwrite a Nixon campaign for Congress; Hoover offers Nixon FBI resources; George Bush Sr works for Dresser Industries (later Halliburton); Truman creates CIA; Big Oil Texans court Hoover; Brown & Root builds offshore oil platforms; Nixon elected after dirtiest campaign in memory, gains national exposure in Alger Hiss trial; Republican politicos, bent on regaining White House, fuel Red Scare with FBI help; Nixon's corrupt pal Joe McCarthy hijacks HUAC for Republican gain in elections; JFK donates to Nixon's campaign, rejects Nixon because of unethical tactics; Harrimans, Bushes begin to drift apart politically and otherwise; Bohemia Grove; George Bush Sr starts oil company; Prescott Bush loses bid for Congress because of Eugenics past; Joe McCarthy big hit in Texas.

SEVEN: 1951-1959
Iran nationalizes oilfields; first Bush in politics wins a special election; Prescott Bush collects $1.5 million from Nazi bank UBC stock, money goes into trust fund; Nixon's funding scandal; Nixon uses TV to spin defense; Allen Dulles leaves Gulf Oil of Latin American, becomes director of CIA; CIA helps overthrow Iranian leader, increases covert action in Latin America; US military overthrows Latin governments hostile to United Fruit Co; B-actor Ronald Reagan an FBI informant; Eisenhower sends special-ops, CIA 'advisors' to Vietnam; Reverend Moon founds a church; US corporations, mobsters own Cuba; Prescott Bush, LBJ serve together on Senate Armed Services Committee; CBS, CIA; McCarthy discredited but 50% of Americans admire him; Howard Hughes exchanges CIA funding for business favors; Lee Harvey Oswald joins Civil Air Patrol; Bush Sr begins offshore drilling, Brown & Root builds platforms; Robert Kennedy busts Nixon's campaign strategist for bribery, attacks organized crime; Hoover spies on civilians, bets on mob horse races, morphs 'Red Scare' into 'Black Menace'; Saddam Hussein joins Ba'ath Party; Manuel Noriega, CIA asset; Texas oil funds Nixon, Johnson; Nixon expected to win '60 Presidential election; Eisenhower warns about “military-industrial complex” subverting government; Oswald leaves top-secret Marine post- charting U2 flights over USSR- defects to Russia.

EIGHT: 1960-1962
Howard Hughes rents islands to CIA for Cuba invasion training; George Bush Sr has drilling platforms among these islands, begins intelligence career (likely following in Prescott's footsteps) as he business travels Texas, New Orleans, Florida, the Caribbean for Zapata; FBI looks for Oswald impersonator; CIA uses mob to undermine Castro; same mobsters finance Nixon's campaign; JFK wins Presidency by thinnest margin ever, thanks to 100,000 votes delivered by Chicago mobster Sam Giancana; press exposes US plans to invade Cuba- New York Times claims 'Mr. B of the CIA' is in charge; Kennedy vows US will never invade Cuba; Bobby Kennedy publicly embarrasses J. Edgar Hoover; Bay of Pigs invasion fails; JFK fires Allen Dulles, shuts down CIA training camps; Prescott Bush commiserates with Dulles; Brown & Root wins billion dollar Vietnam contract; Kennedys further infuriate radical right-wing oilmen, Hoover, mob; FBI blackmails White House with threat of sex exploit 'leaks'; JFK plans to enforce Hoover's mandatory retirement; civil rights activists face violent social, legal, political resistance; racist Democrats flee to Republican camp; Oswald renews US citizenship, returns unharassed by US intelligence; Halliburton buys Brown & Root.

NINE: 1963- JFK Assassination
JFK negotiates with Russia; Bobby Kennedy busts hundreds of mobsters, goes after Giancana- who delivered in '60 election; Colin Powell in Vietnam; Saddam Hussein tortures individuals on CIA interrogation lists; Kennedy initiates federal investigation of oil tax breaks; televised images of US racist brutality stun world, King accuses FBI of complicity; Kennedy publicly supports civil rights, Voter Act; church bombing kills four black girls; King marches on DC; Colin Powell develops 'overwhelming force' doctrine during search and destroy missions; George Bush Sr wins Chair of Houston Republican Party; JFK gestures peace to Castro; withdraws 1000 advisors from Vietnam, plans all troops home by '65; FBI smears King; US assassinates South Vietnamese leader; JFK removes CIA's covert combat authority; Bush Sr sues Texas Governor John Connally to force new Republican district- where Bush can run unopposed; JFK assassination threat in Miami; Clint Murchison's house party on assassination eve; Kennedy killed in Dallas; TX Governor John Connally (in the middle of Bush's redistricting lawsuit) also shot, cries out, “My God, they’re going to kill us all!”; Oswald arrested in Howard Hughes' Texas Theater, says he's a patsy, is shot next day by Jack Ruby; Johnson appoints Warren Commission, stopping all investigations; Allen Dulles defacto head of Commission; Hoover tries to block Time magazine from crowning King 'Man of the Year.'

TEN: 1964-1969
Johnson immediately appoints Hoover 'FBI Director for Life'; Bush Sr runs campaigns against civil rights bill, for Cuban invasion; Moon opens US headquarters; Bush pushes escalation of war, nukes; Bush oil drills in Latin America, Middle East- tax evasion charges taint election prospects; Ted Kennedy runs for Senate- plane crash breaks his back, kills two; Nixon campaigns for Bush; Bobby Kennedy runs for NY Senator; Bush mounts “greatest campaign spending spree ever,” uses Nixon-style dirty tricks; Kennedys win, Bush loses; Warren Commission blames Oswald, no motive; LBJ signs Civil Rights Act; Klan lynches Lemuel Penn; CIA creates Gulf of Tonkin incident; more Vietnam contracts to Halliburton; massive bombing of North Vietnam; Malcom X shot; Bush wins redistricting, campaigns again unchallenged- says "I want conservatism to be sensitive," but mocks civil rights leaders, anti-war protestors; King protests Vietnam war; Eisenhower, others promote Moon; Democrats enact 'progressive tidal wave'- poverty is halved, CEO/worker wage disparity at historic low; Jerry Falwell condemns civil rights, touts segregation as "God's Order;" Republicans appeal to white working class fear, gain 47 House seats; 20-year old Bill Clinton confronts Arkansas racists; CIA experiments; Bush hires advertiser to run campaign, wins election, unprecedented appointment to influential committee; press attacks King's anti-war stance; Colin Powell protects superiors from reports of US atrocities; George W at Yale; Jim Garrison tilts at Warren Commission; DC panics as King plans massive 'poor people's march', vows to camp until legislation passed; Tet offensive exposes White House lie that US is winning war; future Fox News director Roger Ailes Nixon's media strategist; George W enters special Air National Guard unit, despite near-failing scores; Ross Perot, Howard Hughes buy Nixon; Nixon/Kissinger undermine LBJ's Vietnam peace talks before election; King is killed; Bobby Kennedy's Presidential campaign ends with his death; Pentagon Papers; Nixon tries to destroy Ellsberg; Colin Powell works for Nixon, meets mentors Frank Carlucci, Caspar Weinberger.

ELEVEN: 1970-1974
Nixon plans right-biased media; Bush receives Nixon funds but loses Senate race; George W dates Nixon's daughter; Chile nationalizes oil, banking; Nixon appoints Bush UN Ambassador; Richard Cheney Nixon's White House aide; Nixon looks to oust unstable Hoover; Kent State anti-war protestors killed; Bush's oil partner delivers cash to Nixon campaign; Saddam Hussein nationalizes oil; CIA destabilizes Chile, Iraq; Pinochet terrorizes Chile; Bush promotes escalation of Vietnam at UN; candidate George Wallace shot by 'crazy loner,' suspects Nixon; Lucianna Goldberg (later of Monica Lewinsky fame) hired by Nixon as sex spy on McGovern; Nixon sells Lincoln Bedroom overnights; Hoover found dead- buried sans autopsy, Secret Service strips house immediately, top to bottom; burglars arrested in Watergate; military begins drug testing, George W and James Bath suspended for skipping tests; just before elections, outspoken Democrat Hale Boggs disappears in plane crash; press ignores Watergate scandal, Nixon wins re-election; CIA's E. H. Hunt blackmails Nixon over Watergate until wife killed in plane crash; Nixon brags "Bush will do anything for us;" Moon uses call girls to compromise US Senators; Deep Throat warns "everybody’s life is in danger;" Bush Sr charged with deflecting Watergate blame; Arab nations form OPEC; young and vocal attorney Hillary Rodham helps Judiciary Committee investigate impeachment; Moon, followers publicly support Nixon in national demonstrations; head of College Republicans, Karl Rove, helps Bush Sr paint Watergate as political witch hunt; White House tapes expose Nixon's guilt; Bush urges Nixon resignation; Gerald Ford is only VP and President to take office without being elected to either; Bush and Nixon blame Watergate on 'liberal media'; Ford pardons Nixon, immediately ending all deeper investigations into Nixon administration crimes; Nixon's fromer Treasury Secretary William Simon sets out to create a right-wing media.

TWELVE: 1975-1979
House investigates US intelligence; Church Committee focuses on CIA assassinations; CIA Director Colby "too cooperative," Donald Rumsfeld has him fired; Ford appoints Bush Sr new CIA Director; CIA obstructs, stalls investigators; Bush Sr handles guns-dope runner Noriega; mobster Sam Giancana killed shortly before testifying; Kissinger invests in West Bank; Chilean economy rebuilt on neo-con free market principles, becomes most unstable in Latin America; CIA acknowledges experiments; 'Squeaky' Fromme tries to kill President Ford; second attempt on Ford's life 17 days later; Dick Cheney now White House Chief of Staff; Saddam Hussein wins UNESCO award for raising Iraq"s literacy rate; Bin Laden construction firm one of largest in Middle East; House Select Committee on Assassinations (HSCA) re-examines JFK, King killings; Church Committee learns hundreds of journalists are CIA assets, Bush won't release names; Bush CIA buys planes from George Jr's Air Guard friend James Bath, finances through corrupt BCCI; Church Committe concludes: "the investigation of the (JFK) assassination was grossly deficient;" Ford, Bush try to bury Pike Committee report, Daniel Schorr leaks it to press; 'Koreagate,' Moon, KCIA; Bush CIA destabilizes Jamaica, tries to kill Bob Marley; Bush CIA think tank spins intelligence showing phony US weapons deficiencies; Bush Sr DUI; Carter wins Presidency, immediately removes Bush from CIA; Congress investigates Moon; gangster Santos Trafficante pleads 5th on all HSCA questions regardng JFK's asassination; George W begins oil company; four of seven Warren Commission counsels express serious doubts about WC Report; George W loses first Congressional race; Oswald benefactor and alleged 'handler' commits suicide by gunshot four hours after HCSA subpoena; former Assistant FBI Director William Sullivan dies of gunshot wound while hunting, shortly before scheduled HSCA testimony; Jimmy Carter applies sanctions against Iraq, takes Noriega off CIA payroll; Iran throws out Shah, takes American hostages; Bush Sr arranges for Iran to hold hostages until after election; Jerry Falwell, other US religious leaders file court briefs in defense of Reverend Moon.

THIRTEEN: 1980-1986
Bush loses bid for Presidential nomination; Reagan reluctantly chooses Bush- whom he doesn't like, trust- as VP; new Gov. Clinton takes on Tyson Inc, other entrenched interests; Clinton appoints African-Americans to administration, addresses institutionalized racism; Iran hostage crisis dooms Carter; Reagan wins election, hostages released minutes later; Reagan funds covert war in Central America; Noriega back on payroll; 'deranged loner' Hinckley shoots, nearly kills Reagan; Hinckley a friend of Neil and George W Bush, had been kicked out of the American Nazi party; Iraq attacks Iran; Reagan army recruiters sent primarily to ghettos; Bush Sr votes to renew chemical weapons tests; Project Democracy begins to collect funds from right-wing donors; Moon publishes ultra-right tabloid Washington Times; Bush Sr chairs task force which deregulates banking industry, leading to S&L meltdowns of late ‘80s- in which his sons are complicit; Moon convicted of tax fraud, sentenced to prison in CT; BinLaden, Halliburton assist Saudis in military buildup; Congress forbids US tax dollars for CIA missions; US sells bacteria, viruses, retroviruses, fungi to Iraq, China; Bush sons involved in unethical, fraudulent business ventures; Bush buys SAM missiles fom China, provides nuclear/satellite technology- sells to Iran, profits sent to Central American covert actions; Reagan launches propaganda program targeted at Americans; Moon leaves prison, Reagan embraces during White House visit; Jerry Falwell speaks at Moon-sponsored events; Noreiga accuses Oliver North of $5 million dollar rip-off; Prime Minister of Sweden shot to death shortly after rejecting Oliver North weapons deal; Iran-Contra exposed; like Nixon, Bush surrounded by Bay of Pigs-CIA assets.

FOURTEEN: 1986-1989
Independent Kuwait seized by brutal, super-rich al-Sabah family; Colin Powell sends HAWK missiles to Iran, leaving US troops in Europe without; Pat Robertson uses charity to support his diamond, lumber interests; illegal Contra aid, drugs funneled through CIA airport in Mena, AR; pilot DEA informant Barry Seal killed hours before testifying; Averell Harriman dies, wife Pamela funds Democrats; Ross Perot sent after POW's, complains of CIA gun/drug runner interference, VP Bush removes him; Nicaraguan soldiers down American cargo plane full of contra arms- only surviving crew member repeats: "George Bush", confesses he is CIA; Bush sends family attorney to facilitate his release; Republican Special Counsel appointed for Iran-Contra investigation; day before scheduled testimony, CIA Director Casey stricken during routine exam, left unable to communicate- becomes Iran-Contra scapegoat; Carlyle Investment Group formed; FCC scraps Fairness Doctrine; birth of right-wing radio; Colin Powell lies under oath; bin Laden's brother Salem, business partner of Bush Jr and friend James Bath, dies in plane crash; Pan Am 103, part of US drug sting operation, explodes over Scotland; Bush beats Dukakis in vicious racist election; CIA-backed Osama bin Laden drives Russia out of Afghanistan; Exxon Valdez spills oil, never pays $1 in fines; Prescott Bush Jr sells satellites to China; Robert Mueller heads Iran-Contra probe (later runs Bush FBI); George W cons taxpayers over Texas Rangers deal; Little Rock's Stephens Inc is largest investment bank outside Wall Street; founder Jack Stephens deals with Bush family for years, despises Clinton- who sharply curtailed corrupt influence in AR; Bush Sr pardons anti-Castro terrorist; US invades Panama, kills 3000+ civilians but avoids bombing wealthy areas where Prescott Bush has invested in luxury hotels; Bush replaces Noriega with two other drug distributers.

FIFTEEN: 1990-1991
Bush sons get minimal fines in S&L convictions, Republican party pays; Dick Cheney obstructs Nelson Mandela's release, claiming it "bad for US interests;" General Schwartzkopf runs Iraqi invasion computer war games; Kuwait siphons Iraqi oil; Iraq threatens, US assures Iraq it's not involved; Bush Jr sells Harken stocks before they drop, illegally reports four transactions; Bush Jr, Texas Rangers investors convince Arlington to bill taxpayers, fans for new Enron Stadium; then they illegally claim emminent domain, seize 270 acres around ballpark, sell to developers at large profit; media attacks Oliver Stone's JFK a year before release; Bush, Kuwait hire PR firms to sell Gulf War; Bush Sr lies to Saudis about Iraqi threat, cites phony evidence; Bush Sr calls Senator Paul Wellstone "chickenshit"; Rodney King; research report: “The more TV people watch, the less they know; and the less people know the more likely they are to back Bush;" US begins heavy bombing in Iraq, loses over 400 troops; White House controls all war coverage; US massacres 10,000+ retreating Iraqis, on the 'Highways of Death'; Bush enourages Kurds, Shi'ites to rise up against Hussein; Powell advises US to not support uprising, leaves Hussein US helicoptors which are used to gas/kill thousands; Bush camp tells Clinton if he runs in '92 he'll never run for anything again; US violates int'l law by sabotaging Iraqi clean water; former US AG charges US with 19 violations of law in Gulf War actions; Saudi Arabia agrees to permanent US presence, infuriating Osama bin Laden.

SIXTEEN: 1991-1993
John Heinz (R-PA), on his way to Medicare fraud hearings, dies in freak plane crash; next day, former TX Senator John Tower, writing about his Iran-Contra experience, dies in plane crash; Condi Rice leaves Bush Sr’s National Security Council, joins Chevron; Carlyle Group recruits ex-Defense officials; Bush nominates Clarence Thomas to Supreme Court; Anita Hill charges him with sexual harassment, is publicly denigrated; Thomas wins; Danny Casolaro, investigative journalist, is found dead of apparent suicide in Richard Mellon Scaife's office building; CIA admits money link to BCCI; Bush Sr's top fundraisers sued for S&L fraud; Oliver Stone's JFK spurs Congressional creation of Assassination Records Review Board (ARRB); Bush Sr publicly declares Oswald only shooter, refuses to appoint members; Iran-Contra prosecutor finds flaws in Colin Powell's testimony; on Xmas eve, Bush Sr pardons all Iran-Contra figures, dissolving case against himself; Whitewater story released on eve of Democratic primaries; Rodney King cops acquitted, triggering worst race riots in US history; Defense Secretary Dick Cheney plans future 'war zones'; Robert Mueller insists Whitewater continue, Little Rock FBI head defies him, says no evidence to pursue, resigns; on eve of NH primary, Gennifer Flowers sells story of Clinton affair to tabloids; Flowers produces no evidence to prove long-term affair; audio tapes likely doctored; Jesse Helms asks Bush to pardon Pakistani drug smuggler; Bush Sr on payroll of Barrick gold mines, allowing mines on Nevada public land; judges Sentelle, Silberman (later of Monica Lewinsky fame) void convictions of Ollie North, Poindexter; Neil Bush sells Kuwaitis on Enron; Paul Wilcher sends Janet Reno documents about October Surprise, found dead in home; Bush appointee embezzles millions from Travel Office, Repubs object to firings and create 'Travelgate'; Cheney joins Halliburton, deals with terrorist nations; right-wing 'echo chamber' up and running.

SEVENTEEN: A Vast, Right-wing Conspiracy
1970's unkind to Republicans, "never another Watergate"; Clinton the murderer; the politics of personal destruction; Richard Mellon Scaife, 'Justice Jim' Thompson, indicted embezzler Judge Hale; cycle of revenge; American Enterprise Institute; right-wing philanthropy; The Heritage Foundation and the 'kitchen cabinet'; the 'liberal media'; Moon and Christians unite; The Council for National Policy; tabloidesque anti-Clinton videos; political action committees; the language of propaganda; Wednesday morning meetings; sex sells; judicial activism and the Federalist Society; Bohemia Grove; Project For a New American Century (PNAC).

EIGHTEEN: 1993-1998
Racists 'Justice Jim', Sheffield Nelson, embezzler Judge Hale target Clinton; Rush Limbaugh claims Foster murdered; Richard Scaife, American Spectator; George W elected TX Governor; veterans file Gulf War Syndrome lawsuit; Linda Tripp last to see Foster alive; Gingrich takes Congress; Paula Jones, backed by Scaife, Federalist Society, announces sex-harassment suit; Bush Sr's own RTC probe into Whitewater concludes Clintons not guilty; Commerce Secretary Ron Brown dies in plane crash while on Enron trip; TWA 800 crashes during naval missile-defense exercises; Halliburton targets Caspian Sea basin; Clinton pushes investigations into CIA drug trafficking; Unocal, Taliban talk Afghan pipeline; Clinton's omnibus terror bill reduced to uselessness by right; Jesse Helms, Trent Lott openly dismissive of terrorist threats; Ralph Reed, Gary Bauer, other religious right speak at Reverend Moon functions; Alger Hiss outlives Nixon; Bush Sr helps Reverend Moon overcome corruption charges in Argentina, launches another venture; Pat Robertson charity pilots say they fly supplies for diamond mines; Bush Jr decimates Texas' budget surplus; US Supreme Court rules in favor of twice-overturned Paula Jones suit; Clinton blocks Halliburton contracts because of recurring fraud accusations; Rumsfeld, Cheney in Project for the New American Century (PNAC) lobby for regime change in Iraq; government finally admits Gulf War Syndrome link- Bush Jr will later repeal; former sex spy for Nixon helps set up Tripp/Lewinsky; Fox News busted for falsifying news; George W's Texas Housing Dept rife with theft, fraud; 4-year CIA drug trafficking investigation reports 'no evidence,' probe staff director then commits suicide; Taliban hires former CIA director's daughter to improve image in US; Paula Jones accused of mishandling right-wing defense funds; Halliburton in Bosnia, building Bush's Enron stadium in Houston; AOL, with Colin Powell on board, pays the Drudge Report $3000 monthly to sling Republican dirt on Clintons; Drudge receives funds from the RNC and several right-wing foundations also; Israeli Prime Minister Netanyahu visits first Reverend Falwell in US, then meets with President Clinton; numerous uncovered adulteries among conservative leaders get little attention from the press.

NINETEEN: 1999-2000
George W executes his 99th prisoner; hides from Dr. King Day celebrants; Halliburton, Shell, help African police shoot protestors; Republicans try to pin Chinese spy secrets on Clinton; George W's Texas record; Enron's only potential for profitability in India is trans-Afghanistan pipeline; re-opening Alger Hiss files after 50 years proves Nixon's deceit; Clinton freezes $300 million in Taliban assets as Bush Sr is courting Taliban for Carlyle Group, Unocal; John Kennedy Jr killed in plane crash; SCI, world's largest funeral conglomerate (and heavy contributors to Bush family) sued; Bush Jr perjures himself in depostition and fires the investigating team; Michael Powell of the FCC fails to recuse himself in the dubious AOL/Time-Warner merger, even though father Colin Powell sits on board, owns stock; St. Martin's Press kills release of Hatfield's Fortunate Son- book asserts Bush Jr's record for cocaine arrests expunged by Texas judge; another suicide connected to a Bush scandal; Halliburton everywhere US military goes, provides poor services- is investigated repeatedly for fraud; millennium terrorist plots at DC and LAX, Amman Radisson in Jordan, a constellation of holy sites in Israel, and USS Sullivan in Yemen are quietly foiled by Clinton administration; Election campaign 2000 begins; Bush Sr and Barbara clean up selling Global Crossing stocks right before scandal; PNAC publishes report calling for imperial America, with pre-emptive war policies, determined to let no other countries match power or dominance; NRA boasts a home in White House after election; USS Cole hit by suicide bombers; Bush ruins McCain in SC with racial, homosexual innuendo; Democrat Mel Carnahan, poised to beat John Ashcroft in MO, is killed in plane crash right before elections; Editor & Publisher magazine finds 2-1 bias in favor of George W among top press publishers, editorial decision-makers- all of whom have petitions before FCC to further de-regulate media; Enron's new enterprises with IBM, Blockbuster Video, AOL; British Ministry of Defence awards Halliburton $1/2 billion dollar contract; Bush campaign plants false stories about Gore falsehoods, position Bush Jr as honest; Bush election team plans to challenge Electoral College in projected loss to Gore; Paul Wellstone survives an assassination attempt in Columbia; Clinton spending on 'domestic terrorism security' jumps from $42 million to $1.5 billion; right before Bush-Gore debate, Arial Sharon commits Muslim sacrilege with armed troops; Clinton-Gore peace progress disappears in another intifadah; Burke's Peerage writes: "Not one Bush family member...was ever working class, middle class, or even upper middle class, ever." Gore's American bloodline includes Thomas Jefferson, Daniel Boone and England’s Edward I- best known as the king who defeated and executed Braveheart.


TWENTY: Election 2000


TWENTY-ONE: 2001, Pre-9/11
CIA briefs Condi Rice on bin Laden threat; George W suspends bin Laden investigations; FAA warns of hijackings; Moon hosts inaugural lunch- Ashcroft speaks, Billy Graham, most major televangelists in attendance; 25,000 protestors line Presidential route, hurling eggs, insults; Bush rehires felons from father's administration; average net worth of Bush cabinet ten times that of Clinton's; Senators Hart, Rudman send urgent anti-terror package to Condi Rice; Enron, others help bankrupt California by manipulating market, meet secretly with VP Cheney; Cheney mocks energy conservationism; Carlyle Group, Donald Rumsfeld meet; Judicial Watch criticizes Bush Sr Carlyle Group role; Bush camp makes Paul Wellstone a priority to beat; J. Baxter warns Ken Lay about Enron irregularities; nuclear sub USS Greenville- Repub donor at helm- sinks Japanese boat, killing nine; Prescott Bush Jr opens US-China Chamber of Commerce, assists George W with spy plane incident; US quietly increases troop strength around Caspian Sea; media targets missing Dem aide Chandra Levy, ignores dead Repub aide found under suspicious circumstances; many indications collected by NSA of “possible, imminent terrorist attack;” John Ashcroft stops flying commercially; anti-aircraft weapons protect Bush at G8 summit; arresting officers find discredited author of Bush Jr expose' dead by suicide; George W takes August off- receives intelliegence brief on imminent terrorist threat in America; five hundred Arab/Muslim websites crash when FBI raids ISP; in days before 9/11 abnormally high levels of put options purchased on United Air Lines, American Airlines; John O'Neill quits anti-terrorism team as State Dept blocks al Qaida investigations, becomes Security Chief at World Trade Center; on 9/10 Ashcroft refuses FBI. counterterrorism budget increases.

TWENTY-TWO: 9/11- The New Pearl Harbor


TWENTY-THREE: The New World Order
Two days after 9/11 China allowed into World Trade Organization- after fifteen years of unsuccessful attempts; those wierd airline 'put' orders; Patriot Act rammed through Congress with little review; anthrax scare; aiming at Iraq; Carlyle investors reap a series of defense windfalls; problems with the FBI; Michael Powell further de-regulates public airways; US uses news to tie Iraq to anthtrax scare, scientists debunk; Wall Street Journal reveals bin Laden connection to Bush Sr's Carlyle Group; Enron restates its earnings; dead and missing microbiologists; Halliburton gets contracts in Afghanistan and Guantanamo Bay; FBI waits 90 days to 'raid' Enron; largest US defense budget in history; US bombs Afghanistan; Lockheed and the Bushes; Paul Wellstone battles Republican Congress.

TWENTY-FOUR: The New World Order, Part II
Enron corruption exposed, other giants fall; Enron's Baxter dead by suicide week before testimony; Carlyle Group invests in communications; Daniel Pearl kidnapped; Bush uses Sasha Cohen to hawk for Beef Association; senior VP of El Paso Corp, during questioning about El Paso's finances and connection to Enron, dead of gunshot suicide; Turkmenistan, Afghanistan, Pakistan sign agreement on Afghan gas pipeline; Judicial Watch accuses Halliburton of overstating earnings by $445 million under Dick Cheney; states lose their pension to Enron; another SCI 'Funeralgate' in Florida, investigator commits suicide; how Enron/El Paso ripped off CA; Rupert Murdoch pays almost nothing in American taxes; a second panel of acoustical scientists conclude a 2nd gunman shot at the 1963 Kennedy motorcade, to a 96% degree of certainty; European press deflates White House spin on Iraq by exposing PNAC's Rebuilding America’s Defenses, which called for Iraqi invasion before Bush even took office; Wellstone votes against key components of the Bush agenda, including Homeland Security, the Iraqi invasion, ANWR oil drilling, aid to Columbia, subsidies to energy companies, etc, and advocates strenuously against many of Bush's judicial nominees; 20th anniversary of the Washington Times; Wellstone votes against war in Iraq, support for his campaign swells; right before election, Wellstone killed in a plane crash; serious problems with voting machines, inequities in general elections; Florida settles with NAACP for illegally purging tens of thousands of black voters (the names remain off the rolls for the midterm elections, as well). Carlyle Group expands to Europe, Asia.

TWENTY-FIVE: The Future Ain't What it Used to Be
The Saudi-US connection; manufacturing bombs; Carlyle Group’s 36% annual rate of return wins investors' Dream Team of the Year award; Clear Channel, with George W business partner Tom Hicks at vice chair, dominates US radio market, uses its clout (and programming like Rush Limbaugh's show) to advance Bush policies; Clear Channel runs pro-war rallies, sponsored by local radio stations, that denigrate progressives and Democrats; Clear Channel gets bigger as FCC continues to de-regulate; Schwarzenegger announces plan to quietly settle Enron, El Paso lawsuits; faith-based strategies a disaster in TX; Bush Sr buys Italian cigarette company; White House admits it has created a 'Shadow Government' to take over underground in emergency, not a single Democrat is involved; WorldCom busted for fraud, then granted large Iraqi contracts; Carlyle Group buys Britain's defense research institute; Human Rights groups charge Shell, Texaco, ExxonMobile, Unocal with abetting muder, rape, intimidation in Nigeria, Burma, etc; more voter machine funny business; Halliburton profits up 40%; born-again Christians in charge of war against Islam; General Tommy Franks predicts suspension of Constitution; US government plan for market allowing traders to bet on likelihood of terror attacks, assassinations and other Middle East events- headed by Iran-Contra felon John Poindexter- nixed after public outcry, then quietly revived by private firm that helped develop it; Wal-Mart destroying American commerce singlehandedly; corporations sending jobs to India; human genome research demonstates a gene-specific weapon can be produced, PNAC calls such a weapon potentially "a politically useful tool."



With thanks to this website:
http://www.winterboy.com/dejavu.html

[Pallas180]

42. More than you ever wanted to know -

http://www.fiu.edu/~mizrachs/octopus.html

[LibertyorDeath]

47. Holy Shit what an amazing & damning chronology.... Wow

Now this is why I love History.

That is an amazing summation of the "CORRUPTION OF AMERICA"

Thank You Pallas180 for Posting this.

It's worse than I thought when you see the Evil laid out like this

all the interconnectedness of it it's surreal to me.

[Pallas180]

52. Hi LIB - yeah. surreal

I'm pretty speechless right now.

Reading and taking it all in myself and putting it up for you
guys.

whoboy.

It's bad. Really bad.

And they're doing it to the U.S. right now.

Prescott Bush and FDR.

If he had only arrested the cabal that tried the coup on him,
the tentacles wouldn't have grown - and this wouldn't be happening
to the U.S. nor all the damage pappy did to the world.

The only good thing is that there are certain guys who were on
the inside who are spilling their guts.

And who's gonna protect them? Wackenhut? hired contractors?
agents?

Ha.

[LibertyorDeath]

70. "And they're doing it to the U.S. right now"

Yes it's all systems go for BFEE.

I was thinking about how utterly co-opted the mainstream media has become the worse I've seen in my life time it's beyond bad or biased
we are I think in the middle of some (not so stealth media psych-ops) experiment.

I think Faux is the distraction the real media arm of this group is

CNN ("The Most Trusted Name In News")

[LibertyorDeath]

62. After re-reading this I am convinced that

Paul Wellstone was murdered.

[Pallas180]

69. what was he investigating?

what committees was he on?

what was he talking about?

[LibertyorDeath]

73. Not sure

This may have been enough

"Wellstone votes against key components of the Bush agenda, including Homeland Security, the Iraqi invasion, ANWR oil drilling, aid to Columbia, subsidies to energy companies, etc, and advocates strenuously against many of Bush's judicial nominees; 20th anniversary of the Washington Times; Wellstone votes against war in Iraq, support for his campaign swells;"

Especially this "and advocates strenuously against many of Bush's judicial nominees"

[Pallas180]

81. nah, not enough, every democrat would be offed if that was the case.

[Jim Sagle]

248. They're saving that for w's second term.

[never cry wolf]

112. From the Deja Vu website:

From Chapter 21:

Published on Tuesday, April 24, 2001 in the Madison Capital Times:
Bush Fears Tenacious, Popular Wellstone
by John Nichols
ST. PAUL- US Senator Paul Wellstone had just finished rousing a crowd of 2,000 trade unionists, farmers, environmentalists and students with a fiery condemnation of George W Bush’s free trade policies, and now he had a problem. He couldn’t get down the steps of the Minnesota State Capitol here to join the march protesting Bush’s Free Trade Area of the Americas scheme.
Wellstone is just too popular with his constituents. He couldn’t move in the face of a steady stream of men in Teamsters jackets, farm wives holding newborns, green-haired college kids and Catholic priests approaching to offer variations on the words of a steelworker who told Wellstone, “I am so damn proud to be able to say you’re my Senator.”
Most of them also asked a question: “How come Bush hates you so much?”
Let there be no doubt as to the identity of George W Bush’s least favorite Democratic US Senator. It’s Wellstone, the rabble-rousing Progressive who represents not just Minnesota but what remains of the fighting populist spirit of the Upper Midwest.
Elected in 1990 following a grass-roots campaign in which he toured the state on a beat-up school bus, Wellstone was the #1 target in 1996 for Republicans who thought the Senator had doomed himself with a lonely vote against punitive ‘welfare reform’ legislation. He won re-election with ease that year, proving to both the Republicans and to their whimpering Democratic allies that bashing the poor might not be nearly so smart a political move as Dick Morris thought.
As Wellstone prepares to seek a third term next year, it would be reasonable to assume that he might finally be in for some smooth political sailing. But reasonableness doesn’t figure into the calculations of the Bush White House, where the President himself, Vice President Dick Cheney and political commissar Karl Rove practice the politics of vengeance.
The Bushies despise Wellstone, who unlike most Senate Democrats has been fighting spirited battles against the new administration’s policies on everything from the environment to the tax cuts for the rich to oil drilling in Alaska to military aid for the Colombia drug-oil war boondoggle. Other Democratic senators who face re-election contests in 2002 are, according to polls, more vulnerable than Wellstone. But the Bush camp has been focusing highest-level attention on ‘Plan Wellstone’- its project to silence progressive opposition in Congress and the Senate….

Last Tuesday, as Minnesota House Majority Leader Tim Pawlenty was just hours away from announcing his intention to mount a 2002 Republican challenge to Wellstone, he got an urgent call from Rove asking him to step aside for Bush’s preferred candidate, St. Paul Mayor Norm Coleman.
Then, on Wednesday morning, with just 90 minutes to go before his planned announcement, Pawlenty was driving his kids home from a dental appointment. The car phone rang, and Pawlenty found himself talking to Cheney. The vice president told Pawlenty that Bush did not want Coleman- a party-switching former Democrat who chaired the losing Bush presidential campaign in Minnesota- to face a difficult primary contest from a credible Republican.
Pawlenty finally ‘agreed’ to step aside.
Minnesota is not the only state where the Bush camp is seeking to pick senators. But the level of involvement in the Wellstone race is remarkable. Coleman dropped a planned gubernatorial bid after two White House pressure sessions with Bush. And now that Coleman is leaning toward a Senate race, Bush, Cheney and Rove are pulling out all the stops to make sure they are in charge of the anti-Wellstone effort.
Even Pawlenty, as he was proclaiming himself a “team player,” admitted that “it makes you wonder about the process and the integrity of the process….”

http://www.winterboy.com/dejavu21.html

From Chapter 24:

On May 27, The Nation magazine publishes this article about Paul Wellstone and other progressives in government:

Paul Wellstone, Fighter
by JOHN NICHOLS, May 27, 2002 issue
Paul Wellstone is a hunted man. Minnesota’s senior senator is not just another Democrat on White House political czar Karl Rove’s target list, in an election year when the Senate balance of power could be decided by the voters of a single state. Rather, getting rid of Wellstone is a passion for Rove, Dick Cheney, George W. Bush and the special-interest lobbies that fund the most sophisticated political operation ever assembled by a Presidential administration. “There are people in the White House who wake up in the morning thinking about how they will defeat Paul Wellstone,” a senior Republican aide confides. “This one is political and personal for them.”
That has made it political and personal for Wellstone. The man who decided to abandon a self-imposed two-term limit on his Senate service at least in part because of his determination to block Bush’s conservative agenda wears the target with pride. At a moment when most Democrats are still trying to figure out how to challenge a popular President, the former college wrestler is leaping into the ring. Wellstone is not running for cover; he is running to deliver a message about politics in a state and a nation that he believes to be far more progressive than the readers of political tea leaves in Washington could begin to imagine.
“This race is going to be a case study of whether you can maintain liberal, progressive positions and win in this country in 2002,” says Wellstone as he campaigns among Laotian immigrants on a sunny spring morning in St. Paul. “We’re not running a race that asks people to vote for me because, as a Democrat, I will be a little more compassionate, a little better for working families and children and immigrants, than a Republican. We want to draw the lines of distinction. I’m saying that there is a big difference between the America the conservatives want and the America I want.” He adds, “I don’t want this to be just about me. This race has to be about basic questions of whether liberals and progressives can flourish in national politics. That means there is a lot more on the line than whether Paul Wellstone wins or loses.”

and this:

On October 24, the Boston Globe runs this story:
’Wellstone Sets Pace, Declares Support for Action on Corporate Reform’
U.S.Newswire, 10/24/2002 09:39
WASHINGTON, Oct. 24 /U.S. Newswire/ -- Senator Paul Wellstone of Minnesota today became the first Member of Congress to support a pledge to work for top to bottom reform of corporations and to provide new tools for federal regulators to protect taxpayers, consumers and investors.
The 12-point pledge is being circulated to all 535 members of the Senate and the House of Representatives by Ralph Nader in an effort to build momentum for major reforms in the wake of the corporate fraud exposed at Enron, WorldCom, Tyco, Adelphi, Arthur Andersen and many other businesses.
Nader commended Senator Wellstone for endorsing the pledge and helping to launch a campaign that he predicted will “bring lasting reforms which will diminish or prevent corporate crime and restore more confidence and integrity to the economic system.”
“It is fitting that Senator Wellstone, who has been at the forefront of the battle against corporate crime, is the charter signer of the pledge,” Nader said. “Senator Wellstone will be in a position to convert the reform pledges into concrete legislative action when the 108th Congress convenes in January.
The pledge calls for (1) reining in excessive executive pay; (2) strengthening corporate governance; (3) repealing the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995; (4) banning corporate criminals from receiving government contracts; (5) strengthened reforms; (6) stopping corporate tax dodgers and offshore incorporating; (7) regulating derivatives; (8) ending conflicts of interest on Wall Street; (9) expanding disclosure; (10) tracking the extent and cost of corporate crime; (11) protecting financial consumers; and (12) fostering a national discussion and public inquiry/oversight on corporate power.
The full text of the Corporate Reform Survey can be found on the Democracy Rising webpage: “http://www.democracyrising.org/survey.pdf ”


and this:

Progressive Senator Wellstone’s (D-MN) popularity surges after he votes to oppose the Senate resolution authorizing George Bush to wage war in Iraq. He pulls ahead of his Republican opponent Norm Coleman - heavily supported by Bush- and moves toward a victory that will be an embarrassment to the Bush administration.

and finally this:

On October 25, Senator Paul Wellstone, Minnesota Democrat and outspoken advocate for conservation and environmental protection, is killed in a Minnesota plane crash, along with his wife Sheila, his daughter Marcia, and five others.
Wellstone, 58, had long been a champion for environmental causes and was one of the few remaining unabashed liberals in the Senate.
Locked in a hotly contested campaign race for control of the Senate, the two-term senator was scheduled to debate his opponent, Norm Coleman- hand picked and vigorously supported by President Bush as the most likely candidate to tip the Senate back to Republican control)- that evening.

Wellstone’s dedication to environmental issues earned him high praise from environmental and conservation groups, particularly for his work protecting public lands and clean air and clean water. Wellstone was also a strong opponent of plans to drill in the Arctic Wildlife National Refuge, and helped kill each Bush Administration move in that direction. Wellstone was also one of the only dissenting voices in Bush’s demand for unconditional war powers.
Wellstone helped win federal commitments to increase resources for renewable energy efforts such as biomass, ethanol and wind power. The League of Conservation Voters had given Wellstone perfect scores of 100 on its National Environmental Scorecard in seven of the past 11 years.
“Paul Wellstone was an environmental giant, fighting to protect families from toxic pollution, to keep the air we breathe safe, and to keep our lakes and rivers clean,” Sierra Club Executive Director Carl Pope said in a prepared statement. In addition to his support for environmental causes, Wellstone was widely known for championing the rights of working men and women and the working poor.
The Senator was also admired for his efforts to clean up elections, make government activities more transparent to the public, and hold corporations accountable for their actions.



Former CIA and NTSB investigator Carol Carmody says she’s still puzzled by the course the plane took just before it crashed. The investigators have pieced this much together from the radar records: The pilot radioed ahead for clearance to land. The plane was approaching the airport. Then, in the last few minutes the plane was in the air, it slowed down and started to turn away from the airport. Carmody says the plane was pointed away from the runway when it crashed.
“We find the whole turn curious. And we’re going to have to look carefully at the speeds we’ve calculated and the distances,” she said.
Carmody says the pilot did not radio in to say he was having problems during those last few minutes. Other pilots reported very light icing that day, but nothing severe or threatening. The flaps on Wellstone’s plane were in the normal position, unlike their positioning had the pilot been experiencing icing problems. Instruments could have failed- on the plane or at the airport. There are other possibilities, but much of the plane was reduced to ashes during the intense fire after the crash- which blazed, quite curiously, for nearly seven hours- making a precise determination that much more difficult.

Carol Carmody, while Vice Chairman of the NTSB, was also the on-the-scene NTSB member at Mel Carnahan’s plane crash. She is present at the Wellstone crash scene as the Chairman of the NTSB, having been promoted to that position by President George W. Her NTSB biography mentions simply Carol as: “serving at the Central Intelligence Agency.”

Historically, Democrats are twice as likely to die in air crashes as Republicans. Of 22 air crashes involving state and federal officials since 1970, including one ambassador (Arnold Raphael) and one cabinet official (Ron Brown), fourteen (64 percent) of the air crash victims are members of the Democratic Party and 8 (36 percent) were members of the Republican Party. If the list is limited to only elected members of Congress, the total is eight Democrats and four Republicans. Six of the fatalities occurred during election campaigns. Of those, four are Democrats and two are Republicans, and all four Democrats are in races that affect House majorities.

Sorry to stray off on a tangent. Maybe Wilson and Plame got off easy, huh?

[maryallen]

152. Wellstone ...

was investigating the ASBESTOS claims that gobs of people had against a subsidiary of Halliburton.

Can't remember if it was Dresser Industries or Brown & Root. Think it was Dresser. Whichever it was, Halliburton bought the company and their lawsuit liabilites.

Of course, Cheney was looking for ways to end-run the trials/payments.
Don't think it's settled yet.

[grasswire]

85. missing in section four!!

The coup attempt by the elite industrialists on FDR, only foiled by the integrity of US Marine Corps General Smedley Butler who ratted them out rather than be the figurehead of the coup.

This is a serious omission!

[Pallas180]

90. HI GrASSWIRE. no - we have Smedley back on thread #6 or bove

it's really worth reading the threads. Some are in Word format
as above and easier to read than going through regular way.

The things we've discovered have made us numb, BUT NOT NUMB ENUF
TO STOP WRITING LETTERS TO EVERY MEDIA OUTLET, HERSH, BLOG, AND
WAXMAN AND 1/2 WAY DECENT CONGRESS CRITTERS.

[grasswire]

142. yeah.....

....but Smedley is not included in the marvelous summary I referenced. The coup attempt absolutely needs to be included in that because that summary is going to get passed everywhere.

[Pallas180]

31. WAPO- Washington holding its breath if Khan spills all about nuclear help:

Pakistan's Nuclear Hero Defended

By Jefferson Morley
washingtonpost.com Staff Writer
Tuesday, February 3, 2004; 10:18 AM


Online commentators in Pakistan are rallying to the defense of the country's leading nuclear scientists, one of whom has confessed to selling weapons technology to North Korea, Iran and Libya.



Abdul Qadeer Khan, the father of Pakistan's nuclear program, is reportedly under house arrest in connection with a U.S.-backed investigation into the lucrative black market in nuclear weapons technology. Correspondents John Lancaster and Kamran Khan (no relation to the physicist) report in today's Washington Post that Khan has signed a 12-page confession. Khan has also reportedly told investigators that Pakistani President Pervez Musharraf knew about his efforts to help North Korea’s nuclear program.

The revelation will likely stoke an already intense debate. While many Pakistanis defend Khan as a national hero, others in the South Asian media see Khan, a flamboyant self-promoter, as the scapegoat of Musharraf and the permissive nonproliferation policies of the U.S. government.

The 67-year old scientist is "being held incommunicado with heavy security around his house," according to the Times of India. The paper's headline suggests that U.S. officials in Washington are not keen to hear Khan recount the story of his nuclear-related activities in the past two decades: "US, Pak dread Khan's Disclosures."

"Washington and Islamabad," says the Delhi-based daily, are "holding their breath" to see if Khan "will spill the beans about Pakistan's official complicity in the spread of nuclear weapons technology."

In Islamabad, the pro-democracy daily The Nation says Khan's detention is "bound to create a wave of puzzled resentment among a populace which has been accustomed to regard him as the father of the national nuclear programme."

"Dr Khan could not have done anything wrong or even inappropriate without the connivance or neglect of those controlling" Pakistan's nuclear program, the editors say.

Another commentator in The Nation wonders why Musharraf has been so cooperative with the U.S. effort to hold Khan accountable.

"Why it is so that the general who shows fists to the opposition in the parliament, has become so nervous that he is not prepared to face the situation and instead seems to have become a part of the international press campaign against Pakistan's nuclear programme."

Dawn, the English-language daily that often gives voice to the Pakistani establishment, reports that opposition political leaders in the country say the sacking of Khan will cause "irreparable damage to the country's integrity."

The press in India, Pakistan's South Asian nuclear rival, turns a critical eye on the U.S. role over three decades. The Times of India goes back to the early 1980s, when Pakistan, like Saddam Hussein's Iraq, was a quietly favored U.S. ally.

As correspondent Syed Saleem Shahzad notes in the Asia Times, the U.S. Congress cleared the way for Pakistan's nuclear program. In 1981 the Congress, under pressure from Ronald Reagan's White House, voted to formally exempt Pakistan from U.S. laws prohibiting aid to any non-nuclear country engaged in illegal procurement of equipment for a nuclear weapons program. The Pakistani government also won a six-year aid package from the United States worth $3.2 billion. Free from the threat of sanctions, Pakistan conducted a cold test at a small-scale nuclear reprocessing plant in 1982. From there, the so-called Islam bomb began to grow.

Pakistan proceeded to spend some $10 billion developing a nuclear arsenal, say the editors of the Times of India. The money came from Libya, Saudi Arabia, Iraq, the United Arab Emirates and the depositors of the BCCI (Bank of Credit and Commerce International), which became notorious in the early 1990s for myriad criminal activities. The bank, say the editors of the Times of India, was founded by a Pakistani and operated freely in the Persian Gulf oil enclave of Dubai. It is inconceivable, they argue, that Western intelligence agencies didn't know all about this black market.

In the early 1990s, Khan began selling his technological prowess to other parties, enabling him to amass substantial properties in Pakistan as well as building a hotel in the African city of Timbuktu, according to numerous reports.

The "fabulous" Hendrina Khan Hotel, named after Khan's Dutch wife, was one of dozens of the scientist's business undertakings investigated by Pakistani intelligence officials, according to the The Indian Express.

Rajesh Mishra, a New Dehli-based defense analyst writing for the Hindustan Times, says the danger of nuclear proliferation Pakistan poses remains "alarmingly high."

"Discoveries that some members of Pakistan's scientific community are under the influence of extreme ideologies further raise the fear of sensitive information, technology or material falling into rogue hands," he writes.

Abdul Qadeer Khan himself once said: "All western countries, including Israel, are not only the enemies of Pakistan but, in fact, of Islam.'"

The Indian daily notes that one leading Pakistani physicist Bashir-uddin Mahmood, had several meetings in August 2001 with Osama bin Laden.

The Indian editors pose some hard questions about the realities of the international nuclear black market.

"Is it possible that the scientists involved in State-managed clandestine deals overreached the arrangement of cooperation? "

"If so, was it a planned move to overlook this extended relationship?"

They answer that question with another question:

"Or was the Pakistan government unable to question the illegitimate affairs within secret arrangements that involved a scientist like Khan?"

In other words, was the United States totally clueless while a Pakistani scientist supplied nuclear technology to Iran and North Korea?

[Pallas180]

35. a kick for democracy

[seemslikeadream]

66. The secret empire of Dr. Khan

The incontrovertible truth is that Pakistan's nuclear programme in every aspect has been, and remains, under the firm and total control of its army at least since 1977; even its navy and air force have little role in it. Its clandestine nature relied on building a black market largely managed by trusted senior army (and ISI) officers and senior scientists in the nuclear establishment. Such people have undoubtedly been under a strong security and intelligence cover as much for their safety as to keep an eye on them. With a flourishing $2 billion-plus annual narcotics trade, and banks like the former Dubai-based Pakistani-owned "Outlaw Bank", the BCCI (Bank of Credit and Commerce International), and the Mehran Bank to manage the black market in narcotics, nuclear trade and tools for terrorism, there was obviously no dearth of unaccounted funds for the purpose. General Aslam Beg, the army chief in the late 1980's who controlled the nuclear programme, later publicly acknowledged receipt of hundreds of crores of unaccounted funds which he passed on to the ISI and President Ghulam Ishaq Khan.
http://www.indianexpress.com/full_story.php?content_id=...

varun
Libya got its nuke blueprints from Pakistan...

..wonder who else has the blueprints...in this black market.

http://www.nytimes.com/2004/02/04/politics/04NUKE.html

Warhead Blueprints Link Libya Project to Pakistan Figure
By WILLIAM J. BROAD and DAVID E. SANGER

Published: February 4, 2004

WASHINGTON, Feb. 3 — Twelve days ago, a 747 aircraft chartered by the United States government landed at Dulles Airport here carrying a single piece of precious cargo: a small box containing warhead designs that American officials believe were sold to Libya by the underground network linked to Abdul Qadeer Khan, the creator of the Pakistani bomb.

The warhead designs were the first hard evidence that the secret network provided its customers with far more than just the technology to turn uranium into bomb fuel. Libyan officials have told investigators that they bought the blueprints from dealers who are part of that network, apparently for more than $50 million. Those blueprints, along with the capability to make enriched uranium, could have given the Libyans all the elements they needed to make a nuclear bomb. What the Libyans purchased, in the words of an American weapons expert who has reviewed the program in detail, was both the kitchen equipment "and the recipes."....

also...

"...The last shipment of those parts to Libya was intercepted in October, which was several years after Washington began pressuring Mr. Musharraf's government to shut down the scientists at the Khan lab...."

OCTOBER??? 2 years after Pakistan became a "frontline ally" of USA in the war against terrorism?

Something is seriously wrong here...

varun
BCCI funded Pakistan's nuclear bomb

http://www.fas.org/irp/congress/1992_rpt/bcci/05foreign...

"...the Pakistani BCCI Foundation was created as a means of sheltering BCCI profits from taxation. In 1981, it received tax-free status while Ishaq Khan was Pakistan's minister of finance. In turn, the foundation received BCCI's profits from Pakistani operations, and then used some of those profits to finance projects the Pakistani government wanted and could not pay for itself. For example, BCCI provided $10 million in grants in the late 1980's to finance an officially "private" science and technology institute named for Pakistani President Ishaq Khan, whose director, A. Qadir Khan, has been closely associated with Pakistan's efforts to build a nuclear bomb. The institute is believed by some experts to be the headquarters for Pakistan's efforts to build an Islamic bomb. In the same period, other BCCI officials were assisting Pakistanis in purchasing nuclear technologies paid for by Pakistani-front companies through BCCI-Canada.(94).."

RainDog

And Bush knew and lied about it
a few quotes...not the article you want, though.

From Outlaw Bank by Beatty and Gwynne.

They include this statement from Sheikh Kamal Adham, former head of Saudi intelligence, bro-in-law of late King Faisal, and shareholder in BCCI and First American Bank, who was speaking to an Arabic audience when admitted, in 1992, that "Pakistan had their own atomic bomb and that Abedi/BCCI had helped them get it.

...Kamal Adham was anticipating...indictment in the U.S. over BCCI fraud.

"So why would he want to call attention to all of this? The Western press aside, the wily old spy master certainly knew the intelligence agencies of the U.S. would pick up his remarks...He may have been sending a message directly to George Bush, reminding the president that Kamal Adham knew far too much to be trifled with.

in perspective...9-91. Morganthau was going after the powerful Saudi as one of the main culprits of the BCCI scandal. Morganthau kept quiet about his intentions to indict Adham AND SHEIKH KHALID BIN MAHFOUZ (in hopes to avoid state department inverventions.)

but when Kamal found out what was happening, he hired the former executive assistant of then White House Chief of Staff John Sununu...who had just (surprise...not) quit to go "private."

This publically brought the Bush administration into the BCCI scandal for the first time.

Beatty and Gwynne learned that Bush's White House was closely monitoring the BCCI investigation, insisting that a administration official sit in on congressional and justice dept. interviews with BCCI witnesses (does this sound familiar to anyone else?? ...the investigation into whistleblowing with Dubya).

some in the FBI complained the FBI probe was spinning its wheels because it was "too political" (again, sound familiar as an excuse to investigate the Bush lies to go to war with Iraq???)...and decisions were being held up in Washington.

A justice dept official complained Washington didn't really want the Atty Gen.'s office to actually return indictments. Washington (Bush) wanted to do an overall package deal, "'where we cut off the hands of a few Pakistanis and paint it as if they were really all the big folks.'"

Beatty and Gwynne go on to note that Bush Sr, lied and claimed he didn't know Adham. (who had been director of the CIA in 1976, WHEN GEORGE BUSH HEADED THE CIA).

The American agency had been "helping to modernize Saudi intelligence during Bush's tenure (oh, no conflict of interest there, huh, Zapata Oil?)

The authors also note that Bush was known as "the Saudi vice president" throughout the middle east. State dept said it was impossible for Bush not to have known Adham because he was the main man in S.A. when you making BIZ DEALS, as well as policy.

when asked about Bush's statement, Adham did not directly deny it, though Saudi's knew Adham's newphew, Sultan bin-Bandar was ambassador to the U.S. and was a frequent guest of Bush.

...but what about the nuclear weapons issue? Reagan, "intent on continuing military aid to Pakistan during the Afghanistan (mujahadeen/Osama bin Laden as Reagan's allies) war, turned a blind eye b/c U.S. law prohibited military aid or sale to nonnuclear countries known to be developing nuclear weapons.

In 88 and 89, Bush danced on the edge of truth about Pakistan, saying it did not "possess a nuclear explosive device" to justify continuing MASSIVE support for Pakistan, b/c Pak, bush said, only had "unassembled components."

As soon as Russia pulled out of Afghanistan, Bush said unassembled components violated the rules and cut off aid.

Beatty and Gwynne, in Time Magazine, were "the first to assert that BCCI was instrumental in Pakistan achieving unofficial Nuclear Club membership.

Via BCCI, Pakistan had received sophisticated American military technology that Congress NEVER AUTHORIZED. Adham's remarks re: an atmomic bomb may have been suggesting that it wouldn't be in the Bush administration's self-interest to probe too deeply into how Pakistan, and BCCI, came to possess such military capacity.

The Sheikh knew that BCCI was "the creation of a real life Dr. No, whose empire brokered ballistic missiles, illicit pharmaceuticals, stolen military secrets, heroin, and hot money, leaving a trail of corruption across two decades and seventy countries. And of all people, Adham had reason to know that the (Bush) White House knew it too, and had known about it for years."

pp 272-77

seemslikeadream
Why no trial for the world's biggest criminal?

Pardon for scientist who sold atom bomb secrets
By Ahmed Rashid in Lahore and Robin Gedye

Pakistan is likely to pardon without trial the father of the country's atomic bomb even though he has confessed to selling nuclear technology to rogue states, a senior government official told the Telegraph yesterday.

Another promised international indignation in the event of pardon. "He is the world's biggest criminal, involved for 27 years in selling nuclear technology. If you let him off with a slap on the wrist, then what kind of message are you sending to others?" he said.

Mr. Khan has let it be known that he is prepared to blow the whistle on the army's involvement. A cabinet minister revealed that Mr. Khan's daughter, a British citizen, had traveled to London with papers that could incriminate generals and other Pakistani leaders, including the former prime ministers Benazir Bhutto and Nawaz Sharif.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/20...

varun
Pakistani nuclear sicentist offers public apology...


...and gets a slap on the wrist..

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=586&e=2 ...

Pakistani Nuclear Scientist Takes the Rap for Leaks
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By Mike Collett-White

ISLAMABAD (Reuters) - Top Pakistani scientist and national hero Abdul Qadeer Khan made a dramatic personal apology Wednesday for leaking atomic secrets, the latest twist in a proliferation scandal stretching from Libya to North Korea (news - web sites).

In a somber address on state television, Khan, revered at home as the father of Pakistan's nuclear bomb, absolved the government and fellow scientists of any blame in an apparent bid by all concerned to draw a line under the damaging affair.

Commentators said his confession smacked of a cover-up, possibly part of a wider agreement to spare the powerful military unwanted scrutiny in any trial and allow President Pervez Musharraf to avoid pressure from Islamists and nationalists....

seemslikeadream
Nuclear betrayal apology

But his claim to have arranged it all himself has been met with widespread skepticism.

Western diplomats said the middlemen operated in Germany, Netherlands, Malaysia and United Arab Emirates.

As a direct result of the Pakistani revelations, it was revealed yesterday a Malaysian company controlled by the son of Prime Minister Abdullah Ahmad Badawi was being investigated for possibly supplying machine parts for Libya's nuclear weapons programs.

Malaysian special branch police began the investigation after the CIA in the US and Britain's M16 informed them in November that boxes of machine parts bearing SCOPE's name were found in five containers seized in a ship off Italy in October.
http://www.heraldsun.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,54...


Pakistan pardons rogue nuke scientist

Pakistani President Pervez Musharraf has pardoned a scientist who confessed to leaking nuclear weapons secrets to Iran, Libya and North Korea and says the country will not allow international supervision of its nuclear programme.

Musharraf also said Pakistan would not hand over any documents to the International Atomic Energy Agency, submit to an independent inquiry or allow the United Nations to supervise Pakistan's nuclear programme.

http://www.reuters.co.uk/newsPackageArticle.jhtml?type= ... §ion=news

ElBaradei says A.Q.Khan just tip of nuclear iceberg

"Dr.Khan was not working alone," International Atomic Energy Agency chief Mohamed ElBaradei told reporters, adding he had help from people in many countries.

http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/CHA530199.htm

Octafish

The bank was used to funnel petrodollars and cocaine cash and arms business monies back to where it would do the most "good" as defined by the BFEE: bribe politicos around the world, arm despots, further enrich the rich, and speed the spread of the nuclear genie. My guess is they plan to hide out in underground kommandbunkers for the bosses and its Armageddon for the rest of us.

Here's the story that ran the other day in India. The thing is full of BFEE Hall of Fame names:

The secret empire of Dr Khan

Pakistan’s nuclear proliferation poses a tricky challenge

JASJIT SINGH

Dr Abdul Qadeer Khan, the “father” of Pakistan’s nuclear weapons programme and the man who relentlessly pursued it through clandestine means and methods for decades, has finally admitted in a written statement that he oversaw its further clandestine spread to at least three other countries. Official Pakistan, which for years insisted that its nuclear weapons programme is tightly controlled and completely secure, is now claiming that nuclear trade has been made into a private enterprise by some of its national heroes! Extensive evidence has emerged in the public domain about detailed plans for enrichment of uranium for bomb making having been transferred from Pakistan to a number of countries along with a new version of a “yellow pages” directory of networks from Malaysia to Europe and North America for supply of materials and components.

What is of critical importance is not only the world’s most adventurous multinational nuclear proliferation but the reason Khan has put forward for his activities. Pakistani officials are saying that, contrary to earlier assumptions, he did not do so for money, but that he “was motivated enough to make other Islamic countries nuclear powers also” and reduce pressure on Pakistan. This may be an effort to garner public support from Islamic parties and countries. It also harks back to Bhutto’s notion of the “Islamic Bomb” for its Um’mah. The only exception known so far is the supply of nuclear weapon making technology to North Korea for strategic reasons in exchange for long-range ballistic missiles for nuclear weapon delivery.

Islamism has been deepening in Pakistan for three decades. Its concept of “strategic depth”, especially to its west, led to intervention in Afghanistan to control Kabul through covert Mujahideen operations. Strategic depth made no sense in modern conventional military terms. But in the context of Islamic jihad, as an instrument of politics by other means in Clausewitzean terms, it incorporated deadly logic, especially when the Holy Quran was invoked under General Zia ul-Haq to justify terrorism. To this has been added the strategic depth of an “Islamic Bomb” whose wherewithal is controlled by Pakistan. One look at the map would show that Pakistan’s Islamic nuclear mushroom covers the whole of West Asia with what Mansoor Ijaz terms as the “North Korean-made missiles armed with a Chinese-made nuclear device assembled in Islamabad’s nuclear labs whose fuel came from gas centrifuges sold by Pakistan’s rogue Islamists.” Small wonder Al-Qaeda, which received extensive support from Pakistan and its most radical surrogate, the Taliban, boasted it could make a “dirty” nuclear bomb.

The incontrovertible truth is that Pakistan’s nuclear programme in every aspect has been, and remains, under the firm and total control of its army at least since 1977; even its navy and air force have little role in it. Its clandestine nature relied on building a black market largely managed by trusted senior army (and ISI) officers and senior scientists in the nuclear establishment. Such people have undoubtedly been under a strong security and intelligence cover as much for their safety as to keep an eye on them. With a flourishing $2 billion-plus annual narcotics trade, and banks like the former Dubai-based Pakistani-owned “Outlaw Bank”, the BCCI (Bank of Credit and Commerce International), and the Mehran Bank to manage the black market in narcotics, nuclear trade and tools for terrorism, there was obviously no dearth of unaccounted funds for the purpose. General Aslam Beg, the army chief in late 1980s who controlled the nuclear programme, later publicly acknowledged receipt of hundreds of crores of unaccounted funds which he passed on to the ISI and President Ghulam Ishaq Khan.

CONTINUED...
http://www.indianexpress.com/full_story.php?content_id=...


"The problems of the world cannot possibly be solved by skeptics or cynics whose horizons are limited by the obvious realities. We need men who can dream of things that never were." — John Fitzgerald Kennedy

Octafish

BFEE Loves Nuclear Proliferation...


... as it gives them an excuse to continue as war party. That enables the ruling elites -- thugs and commies alike -- to lord it over their populatons. And it is truly Big Business -- the biggest there is.

Pakistan investigates BCCI role in sale of nuclear knowhow

Wednesday, February 04 2004 @ 06:11 PM CST

Stephen Fidler and Farhan Bokhari

The Pakistani government is examining records of the failed Bank of Credit and Commerce International in its investigation into the role Pakistani scientists may have played in selling nuclear knowhow to Iran, North Korea and Libya. According to bankers, some of whom worked with BCCI before it collapsed in 1991, Pakistani investigators have sought the help of former BCCI employees to try to uncover payments made to scientists connected with Pakistan's nuclear programme. BCCI's role in financing Pakistan's own nuclear efforts has long been the subject of scrutiny. In 1992, a report into BCCI from a US Congressional sub-committee headed by Senator John Kerry, now a leading Democratic presidential contender, said "there is good reason to conclude that BCCI did finance Pakistan's nuclear programme". Though it said the issue deserved further investigation, there was little public follow-through.

This year, however, as evidence has mounted that Pakistani scientists helped the uranium enrichment programmes of Iran, North Korea and Libya, the Pakistani government has launched an investigation. A government spokesman in Islamabad said that anybody found to have passed on secrets would be punished, but denied that the government approved any transfers. At least 11 Pakistani scientists and officials - as well as the so-called father of the Pakistani nuclear bomb, Abdul Qadeer Khan - have been questioned.

BCCI helped the Pakistani government under General Zia ul Haq, the military dictator killed in a 1988 plane crash, to channel payments from the US Central Intelligence Agency to fighters seeking to oust Soviet troops from Afghanistan. Soviet troops withdrew in 1989 but former BCCI officials said the relationship for organising undocumented payments for influential Pakistanis continued until the bank's collapse. One former BCCI banker who said he organised funds transfers on behalf of senior military officers in the Zia regime commented: "I'm not surprised that the Pakistanis are now looking to put together dossiers on some of their scientists receiving payments through BCCI." He said that over the past two months, Pakistani officials had travelled to the Middle East, looking for evidence of nuclear scientists receiving payments through BCCI.

Another former BCCI banker said that establishing payments to Pakistani nuclear scientists through the bank could provide evidence about the so far undocumented role of senior former Pakistani military officers in overseeing the transfer of nuclear knowhow to other countries. The investigation has prompted speculation among western intelligence officials and diplomats over the extent to which General Zia, leader of a frontline anti-communist state, in fact sanctioned the transfer of nuclear knowhow to Iran. In the past four to eight weeks, he said the Pakistani investigators have been seeking evidence of payments made to Mohammad Farooq, one of the nuclear scientists at the centre of the investigation. Pakistani officials are said to have focused on Mr Farooq as a possible contact between the Iranians and Mr Khan.

Continued to source (with loads o' links-n-stuff Pakistani nuclear)...FT archives require $...blm warned me...
http://www.pakistan-facts.com/index.php?topic=wmd-proli...


BCCI and Pakistani Nuclear Hero
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...

everybody

ps

If this planet blows to pieces this year, thank Khan Labs' and Bush

You may never have heard of Khan Laboratories, but if this planet blows to pieces this year, it will be thanks to Khan Labs' creating nuclear warheads for Pakistan's military. Because investigators had been tracking the funding for this so-called "Islamic Bomb" back to Saudi Arabia, under Bush security restrictions, the inquiry was stymied. (The restrictions were lifted, the agent told me without a hint of dark humor, on September 11.)

Noam Chomsky, who read the story on page one of the Times of India, has wondered, "Why wasn't it all over US papers?

.. A top-level CIA operative who spoke with us on condition of strictest anonymity said that, after Bush took office, "There was a major policy shift" at the National Security Agency. Investigators were ordered to "back off" from any inquiries into Saudi Arabian financing of terror networks, especially if they touched on Saudi royals and their retainers. That put the Bin Ladens, a family worth a reported $12 billion and a virtual arm of the Saudi royal household, off limits for investigation.

I probed our CIA contact for specifics of investigations that were hampered by orders to back off of the Saudis. He told us that Khan Laboratories investigation had been effectively put on hold.

http://www.gregpalast.com/detail.cfm?artid=312&row=0

[Pallas180]

72. Hi DREAM. Thanks- we have Khan connected to

SCOMI and SCOMI connected to Cheney. Components. Remember the quote about components? Halliburton sold dual use components that
could be used for drilling or for triggering a nuke.

duh -

Google is a wonderful thing.

check out our thread 13 and 14...

we have Khan connected to Pappy
and Cheney as Khan's suppliers. pappy when in office, cheney as
Halliburton.

The responsible parties sit in the White House Dream.

They believed in selling everybody - proliferation (illegal blackmarket making money that went straight into Swiss numbered accounts) - stalemates would be formed.

They didn't count on people who think 72 virgins are waiting for them after they are atomized.

Plame was in the non-proliferation group. Job was to find black marketers and stop proliferation of WMD

Our theory is she got onto the illegal selling of components for nukes by our very own thugs.

Therefore they exposed her to stop her investigation.

[shraby]

77. Who interfered with John Kerry's

investigation of BCCI...I can't find it but I think I saw it.

[Pallas180]

80. Scraby - subpoenaed Saddamm didn't show and doper

ci Morales in prison "slipped in the shower and died" the day
before he was going to testify before Kerry's commission.

[Pallas180]

37. SIBEL EDMONDS -Must Read -only known interview with Baltimore Chronicle

"The most significant information that we were receiving did not come from counter-terrorism investigations, and I want to emphasize this. It came from counter-intelligence, and certain criminal investigations, and issues that have to do with money laundering operations."

--Sibel Edmonds, former FBI translator

"If they were to do real investigations we would see several significant high level criminal prosecutions in this country. And that is something that they are not going to let out. And, believe me; they will do everything to cover this up."

-Sibel Edmonds, former FBI translator


INTERVIEW:
Former FBI Translator Sibel Edmonds Calls Current 9/11 Investigation Inadequate by Jim Hogue


INTRODUCTION: Sibel Edmonds and Behrooz Sarshar, beginning in December of 2001, began filing reports to their superiors at the FBI. These reports could lead to the collapse of a corrupt power structure that has a stranglehold on the very institutions that are obligated to control it. We cannot excuse these institutions, for while they fiddle, they pass death sentences on their own troops, and on the people of Afghanistan and Iraq.
On April 30th, Sibel Edmonds was my guest for 50 minutes on WGDR radio. What follows is an edited transcript of the interview. The editing is for the sake of a more readable piece.

Sibel Edmonds is a former FBI translator. She blew the whistle on the cover-up of intelligence that names some of the culprits who orchestrated the 9/11 attacks. These culprits are protected by the Justice Department, the State Department, the FBI, the White House and the Senate Judiciary Committee. They are foreign nationals and Americans. Ms. Edmonds is under two gag orders that forbid her to testify in court or mention the names of the people or the countries involved.


THE INTERVIEW
JH: The people who have so far been interviewed on this program have all been authors and researchers, and here we have someone who, for the most part, has first-hand information. Ladies and Gentlemen, your guest is Sibel Edmonds, formerly of the FBI, a translator who joined the FBI shortly after 9/11.
Ms. Edmonds, what I'll do is invite you to tell us whatever you would like--your stint with the FBI--and what the brouhaha with Ashcroft and company is all about.

SE: I started working for the Bureau immediately after 9/11 and I was performing translations for several languages: Farsi, Turkish, and Azerbaijani. And I do have top-secret clearance. And after I started working for the Bureau, most of my translation duties included translations of documents and investigations that actually started way before 9/11. And certain documents were being sent that needed to be re-translated for various reasons, and of course certain documents had to be translated for the first time due to the backlog.

During my work there I came across some very significant issues that I started reporting in December of 2001 to the mid-level management within the FBI. They said to basically leave it alone, because if they were to get into those issues it would end up being a can of worms. And after I didn't see any response from this mid-level bureaucratic management I took it to higher levels all the way up to Dale Watson and Director Mueller. And, again, I was asked not to take this any further and just let it be. And if I didn't do that they would retaliate against me.

At that point, which would be around February 2002, they came and they confiscated my computer, because, they said, they were suspecting that I was communicating with certain Senate members and taking this issue outside the Bureau. And, at that point, I was not. They did not find anything in my computer after they confiscated it. And they asked me to take a polygraph as to the allegations and reports I'd made. I volunteered and I took the polygraph and passed it without a glitch. They have already confirmed this publicly.

In March 2002 I took this issue to the Senate Judiciary Committee and also I filed it with the Department of Justice Inspector General's office. And as per the Senate Judiciary Committee's request the IG started an expedited investigation on these serious issues; and they promised the Senate Judiciary Committee that their report for these investigations would be out by fall 2002 latest. And here we are in April 2004 and this report is not being made public, and they are citing "state privilege" and "national security" for not making this report public.

Three weeks after I went to the Senate Judiciary Committee the Bureau terminated my contract, and they cited "government's convenience." I started working with the Senate Judiciary Committee that was investigating this case, and I appeared before the Inspector General's office for their investigation several times, and I also requested documents regarding these reports under the Freedom of Information Act; and they blocked this by citing again the "state secret privilege" and "national security" refusing to make these documents public.

On October 18th 2002 Attorney General Ashcroft came out personally, in public, asserted this rare "state secret privilege" on everything that had to do with my case. And they cited "diplomatic relations" and certain "foreign relations" that would be "at stake" if I were to take this issue and make it public. And, since then, this has been acting as a gag on my case.

I testified before the <9/11> commission on February 11th 2004, and as I said, I have been waiting for this report that they have been blocking for a year and a half from becoming public. The information I requested under the Freedom of Information Act has been blocked for two years. And I have been campaigning for the past three months trying to get the Senate Judiciary Committee that has the oversight authority and responsibility to start its own public hearings. However, this request is again being blocked. Now they are citing this upcoming election as reason. And here I am.


JH: And it is the Attorney General who is blocking your testimony.

SE: Senator Leahy, on April 8, 2004, sent a very strong letter to Attorney General Ashcroft, citing my case stating that he, Senator Leahy, has been asking questions, and has a lot of issues that have not been addressed, and asking AG Ashcroft to come and provide answers. And AG Ashcroft for the past two years has refused. So he is calling for a public hearing. However, Senator Hatch, who is the Republican Chairman of the Senate, has been a road block. And Senator Grassley went on the record with New York Observer's Gail Sheehy and said that Senator Hatch is blocking this investigation from taking place and for this public hearing to be held by the Senate Judiciary Committee.


JH: So Hatch has the power to keep Leahy and Grassley....

SE: Correct. And now it is becoming a partisan issue. However, I keep reminding them that this issue is not a new issue that has come out for this election. This issue has been in the courts for two years and two months now.


JH: I've watched Hatch perform since the Contra Hearings in the mid 1980s, and I can assure you that for Hatch, everything is a partisan issue. You have a tough one.

SE: We have to remind the people: Congress has the constitutional obligation and public responsibility to oversee these issues and the Department of Justice's operations. That's why they are elected. That's why they are there. That's what they are getting paid for.


JH: Do you think that Leahy and Grassley are going to try to plow ahead with this, or do you think that there is a back door deal with Hatch?

SE: Well....as far as I see, Senator Leahy has been trying, and it's a strong letter that he issued a few weeks ago.

However, I'm very disappointed with Senator Grassley's office and his staff members. They initially were very supportive. But what I am getting from their office every time I call is, "