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Doug Decker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-27-04 06:17 PM
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Ben Affleck on Hardball...
He is so articulate and intelligent.

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Doug Decker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-27-04 06:18 PM
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1. He knows history and sounds like he reads DU n/t
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bossfish Donating Member (789 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-27-04 06:19 PM
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2. But why is an actor/screenwriter a guest on these shows?
They can't find a Dem operative or "journalist"? Seems they have no shortage ot RWers on these types of shows. With more "impressive" credentials.
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K-W Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-27-04 06:20 PM
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3. Right wing media NT
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k in IA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-27-04 06:20 PM
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4. He sounds better than most (maybe all) of the Dem strategists.
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Doug Decker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-27-04 06:24 PM
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5. He's sounding pretty good...
Edited on Tue Jul-27-04 06:24 PM by Doug Decker
and since we can't control who is on, why not enjoy it when we get a windfall?

Even DeeDee Myers sounds like a wishy-washy on this segment.

He used the words, agitprop, specious and abrogated. I think I love him.
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bossfish Donating Member (789 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-27-04 06:25 PM
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8. I'm not watching but I agree that Mr Affleck is..
..a smart guy. I'm sure he is very well informed.

But now we're going to have to hear all the "Hollywood elite" crap
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Doug Decker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-27-04 06:28 PM
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10. Again, you and I can't control...
all that "Hollywood elite crap". It's all our cable networks seem interested in.

I just never realized he was so smart.
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thebigidea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-27-04 06:39 PM
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19. Except in the case of Arnold for some reason...
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bossfish Donating Member (789 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-27-04 07:02 PM
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35. Oh, and St. Reagan...
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Doug Decker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-27-04 07:20 PM
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42. Unfortuately, unless you know something I don't...
no one here had anything to do with the coverage of those two either.

The RW media props up it's RWers, that seems to be the only constant.

Good catch. Do you think President Clinton's funeral will stop everything on cable for a WEEK?
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JerseygirlCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-27-04 06:45 PM
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24. Ugh... Again -- "elite" as code word for "smart". They certainly can't
allow smart, now, can they?
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Feanorcurufinwe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-27-04 06:26 PM
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9. Watch and you'll see why.
He knows what he is talking about and he does a damn good job of doing so.

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My Pet Goat Donating Member (268 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-27-04 06:24 PM
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6. Damn, he came prepared...
which is more than I can say for most Dem. spokespeople.
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Doug Decker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-27-04 06:25 PM
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7. Didn't he! n/t
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-27-04 06:28 PM
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11. Thanks for reporting this...I don't have cable news so
it's nice to hear about people like Ben Affleck being on hardball and kickin' ass!
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Doug Decker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-27-04 06:34 PM
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16. So much on CNNFAUXMSRNC is depressing and sad...
so when something like this, a positive and good spokesman from OUR side gets the limelight, it perks me up.

It's rare, but it does happen.

:hi:
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savistocate Donating Member (406 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-27-04 06:47 PM
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26. Why an actor/writer?
on a politics (FAR-RWer hosted) talk skank Mathews sho..?
He is a Democratic ACTIVIST as well. Should movie people
be deprived of , disallowed speaking because they are famous?

Democrats in movie biz are all of the highest talent and intelligence...many greatly articulate. Past history reflects this as well as contemporary with greats Gregory Peck James Cagney
--list then & now far too long. Who are Repubs.. the least gifted, the least contributions.

I love Affleck. His sensibilities..intelligence resonate in all his roles.
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Doug Decker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-27-04 06:52 PM
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30. Great answer...
Better than anything I said.

Welcome to DU!

:yourock:
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shawmut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-27-04 06:30 PM
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12. Ben was great
Maybe he can take Kerry's seat after the election. :D
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Literate Tar Heel Donating Member (555 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-27-04 06:31 PM
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13. he certainly appears to have a future in politics
if Ahhnold and Jesse Ventura can get elected, then surely Ben Affleck can ... he's far more articulate, prepared, and informed than they ever were (oh wait, those are negatives these days though)
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k in IA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-27-04 06:33 PM
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15. He did say on other shows that he is interested in possibly running for
something in the future. He doesn't want to be an actor all of his life. He could definitely have a future in politics.
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desertalien Donating Member (155 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-27-04 06:36 PM
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17. More Ben Please
He had a calming effect on Tweety
He did a fair impersonation of him.
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Doug Decker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-27-04 06:51 PM
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29. Tweety promised Ben would be back during Convention....
week. We'll see.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-27-04 07:02 PM
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36. I've seen Ben do impressions before of people who I can't
remember anyone now.. but he's Good@!
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Granite Donating Member (195 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-27-04 06:32 PM
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14. Affleck came across extremely well
Articulate, on-message, photogenic, and incredibly impressive. As much as I dislike his recent acting efforts, he's a great spokesman for John Kerry and the Democratic Party. Hmmmmm.....come to think of it, why do I dislike Affleck so much? He's a Sox fan, a Democrat, a John Kerry supporter, he had sex with J-Lo, and Chasing Amy was a great movie. Maybe I've been too hard on ole Ben....
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-27-04 06:38 PM
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18. Thank you Ben!
For using your voice for good.

:toast:
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bagnana Donating Member (858 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-27-04 06:40 PM
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20. He is great.
Also seems to have a natural, unforced sense of humour. Very funny, smart, and did I mention DAMN GOOD LOOKING??
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-27-04 06:43 PM
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22. Oh, to be J-Lo but for a day...about this time last year.
:loveya: ;)
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Bullshot Donating Member (807 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-27-04 06:42 PM
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21. It looks like another subtle way of the news media to make the Dems
look like they cater to the Hollywood crowd.
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Doug Decker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-27-04 06:45 PM
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25. Like the pukes don't do that already?
Come on, when we get an articulate and famous spokesman, it's cause for CELEBRATION!
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scarletwoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-27-04 06:58 PM
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33. And if nothing else, they have YOU posting their talking points for them.
Wait until the Springsteen/Neil Young/REM pro-Kerry concert tour starts up this fall. Then you can worry about how the media will make the Dems look like they cater to the Rock'n'Roll crowd. :eyes:

sw
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Doug Decker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-27-04 07:00 PM
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34. hahahahahahah!
:yourock:
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scarletwoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-27-04 07:10 PM
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38. (*blush*) Why, thank you sir.
:-)

sw
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Doug Decker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-27-04 07:13 PM
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39. You're welcome....
Can I use that line, I love it? I promise to give you the credit.
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scarletwoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-27-04 07:40 PM
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44. LOL Of course!
:hi:
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-27-04 07:04 PM
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37. Who gives a fuck what the media thinks?
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Doug Decker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-27-04 07:14 PM
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40. Well said....
do the "media" really have the capabilty to think? Aren't they just reading what somebody else thought, like RNC talking points?
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JerseygirlCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-27-04 06:43 PM
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23. Wasn't he awesome?
I'm not starstruck in the least, but he really impressed me! It's so wonderful to listen to someone truly articulate, with an impressive vocabulary and a finely-honed ability to communicate -- and not have anyone asking him to apologize for it.

I think, bottom-line, that's what I really dislike the most about Bush -- his aggressive anti-intellectualism. He's the dumb jock in HS who, rather than actually study, makes fun of the smart kids...
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Doug Decker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-27-04 06:49 PM
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27. Me, too.
Edited on Tue Jul-27-04 06:50 PM by Doug Decker
I live in LA, we can see these people on the street (OK, rarely, but it is LA law you don't act like you see them).

What a vocabulary. David Gergen even complimented him on his excellent command of the English language. You don't hear George getting those strokes.

:hi:

On edit: typos, what else.
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nostamj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-27-04 06:50 PM
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28. cute, but he WAFFLED big time on F9/11
calling the Saudi connections specious.

did NOT appreciate that.
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Doug Decker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-27-04 06:55 PM
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31. What, he isn't allowed his own opinion?...
Last time I checked, and things are moving quickly, we still have free speech and he has the right to disagree with your view.

I hope you will at least give him that.

:hi:
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nostamj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-27-04 06:56 PM
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32. duh
and let me repeat, DUH.
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aint_no_life_nowhere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-27-04 07:16 PM
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41. He let O'Liarly get away with more lies when he appeared with O'Liarly
Edited on Tue Jul-27-04 07:18 PM by aint_no_life_nowhere
First, O'Reilly said that France was scamming in the oil-for-food program. The Liar always forgets to mention the CBS 60 Minutes program which verified that US oil companies were the ones paying Saddam extra amounts under the table for his oil, with which he was building palaces. Secondly, the Liar said that Al Zarqawi was living in Baghdad. Al Zarqawi was operating in the Kurdish regions of Iraq before the war, with Islamist Ansar al-Islam. They were beyond the reach of Saddam Hussein. I think Ben Affleck should have punched out the fucking liar and let him and American know why.
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Doug Decker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-27-04 07:23 PM
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43. A punch would make you and me feel good...
but what does it give the RWers watching FAUX?

Is Ben perfect? Hardly, but he has the guts to go on O'Lielly's stupid turd fest and the will power not to strike him, like you and I would if we had the chance.

Bill lies so fast and so often, I don't know how anyone would get a word in edge wise.

Welcome to DU!
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