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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-25-04 06:49 PM
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Teresa Heinz-Kerry pretty much called Bush a liar
Edited on Sun Jul-25-04 07:45 PM by eleny
She just said to Chris Matthews that "untruths" were told before the war.
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maggrwaggr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-25-04 06:50 PM
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1. OMIGOD that's it. Kerry's gonna lose now
:eyes:
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-25-04 06:51 PM
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2. Bush* is a liar!
And the untruths were told before the war! Watch "Uncovered..The whole truth about the Iraq war. Says it all.
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-25-04 06:53 PM
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5. Yes it does...
Edited on Sun Jul-25-04 06:54 PM by eleny
But to hear Kerry's wife say it on tv in an interview really floored me. She speaks so softly and I might have missed it. It's a pretty strong thing for the Dem candidate's wife to assert. I was thrilled to hear it.
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wellstone_democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-25-04 06:52 PM
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3. Well, I'll do it unequivocally if you like
He lies. And lies and lies.

Oops! A registered Democrat in Texas said the Emperor lies! The election is lost...

I expect lots of posts to follow that worry excessively about being "practical" and not "scaring" those who aren't "radicals" like us! Well, this "radical" is going to eat dinner and watch Trading Spaces. Scary person! Scary angry person!

Alert O'Reilly!
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-25-04 06:55 PM
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6. Another registered Democrat in Texas says the Emperor lies!
:hi:
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-25-04 06:56 PM
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7. But you;re not the candidates wife
Enjoy Trading Spaces!
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wellstone_democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-25-04 08:16 PM
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41. Well if it wasn't her and it wasn't him and it wasn't someone`
in the campaign or the entertainment industry, it might as well be some random "nut" because someone in the media will insist that he "deny" our criticism. by now you must know how this works...
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-25-04 08:25 PM
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45. Folks around here at DU have been waiting for a Dem in the race
...to say he's a liar. So, our saying it and someone as close to Kerry as his wife saying it on National tv is quite different. I felt the urge to post about it. I'm sure you know how that works.
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childslibrarian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-25-04 06:52 PM
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4. Great Interview
She is such a bright person and so wise in the ways of the world, politics, and life.
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indigobusiness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-25-04 06:56 PM
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8. Lying is so automatic with the Bush camp
Edited on Sun Jul-25-04 06:56 PM by indigobusiness
that they do it when there is nothing possible to gain by it.
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snippy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-25-04 07:01 PM
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12. You are so right.
The entire world knows that Bush is the most compulsive and incessant liar in the history of American politics.

There is no subject so somber, serious, or shallow that Bush will not lie about it. The only other option is not to lie. And that apparently is something Bush can not do.

For example:

Bush says he fell off his bicycle because of the heavy rains and he watched on television on the morning of 9/11 as the first plane hit the first WTC tower and John McCain has an illegitimate Negro daughter and Bush would veto McCain-Feingold and the yawning boy was not there and was not yawning and besides he was standing some place else and Richard Clarke had complete access to Bush and Rice which proves that Clarke was out of the loop which is Clinton's fault but the White House revealed that Clarke briefed the press on background about Bush fighting terrorism which means that unnamed White House sources may not be identified even when Bush wants to and everyone except Bush himself knows where he was during his National Guard service but it was Clinton's fault that Bush did not show up for duty which was after Bush volunteered to go to Viet Nam but before he was no longer required to take a flight physical and about the same time that God ordered him to smite Saddam because the 70 lines of embryonic stem cells and more arsenic in the water and more mercury in the air prove that republican science is better than sound science and the Bush administration did not illegally conspire to illegally reveal the identity of a covert CIA operative which resulted in 2 million new jobs being created because democrats support terrorism and are not good Americans just as the Jews were not good Germans which is why Bush said he would veto the creation of both the Department of Homeland Security and the 9/11 Commission but now claims credit for their creation and the White House is cooperating with the 9/11 Commission which is why the White House withheld documents and called the republicans on the Commission before Clarke testified and why the White House is not coordinating the attacks on the integrity and bipartisanship of the Commission and why Bush and Cheney negotiated with the Commission that the two of them would testfy one time only but never again since the dental xrays prove that Bush spoke with the CIA director everyday and did not ignore either the repeated warnings of the dangers of al Qaeda and Osama or the August 2001 intelligence briefing specifically warning of the upcoming 9/11 attacks because the United States is a nation with a mission and that mission is to bring freedom to every single person in the world which will cut the deficit in half if you do not count those parts of the deficit which will increase under Bush which is Clinton's fault but the boxes from China were labeled "Made in USA" which resulted in 2.6 million new jobs being created even though the $400 billion Medicare prescription drug decorative turkey was not labeled $550 billion and was passed without bribery or criminal deception and was not criminally promoted by the Bush administration using taxpayers' money for propaganda purposes which proves that government spending under Bush has gone down if you do not count the increased government spending under Bush which is Clinton's fault just as acts of terrorism have decreased since 9/11 if you do not count the increase in the number of acts of terrorism and Bush's plane to Baghdad was spotted because before Saddam bought the uranium and became an "urgent" but not an imminent threat which is Clinton's fault Bush had no plans on his desk to invade Iraq since the invasion was not planned before Bush took office even though it was the subject of his first national security council meeting in February 2001 and in December 2001 when plans for the invasion were being finalized Bush said he was focused on the military operations in Afghanistan and then the Carrier Costume Party was too far offshore for the Navy to make a large enough "Mission Accomplished" banner to describe the WMD we have found in Iraq some of which Saddam was giving to Osama for following Saddam's plans and using Iraqi hijackers on 9/11 which is Clinton's fault but everyone who pays income taxes got a tax cut which created 3 million new jobs and allowed Iraqi oil revenue to pay for the cost of the reconstruction of Iraq after the invasion by a small number of troops who would be greeted with floral program related activities except for the dead and wounded troops who are being brought home secretly which is Clinton's fault since Bush is the one who hugs the mothers and the widows and the wives and the kids and since Bush does not watch television news he did not know about the republican torture pranks occurring in Iraq until he saw the pictures while watching television news and that is why Bush who will use the jawbone of an ass to force OPEC to open the spigots and who is responsible for good economic numbers but not bad economic numbers which are Clinton's fault wrote the poem that he did not write blaming Laura for dropping the dog.

Ridiculing Bush for his compulsive and incessant lying needs to become common.

FIRE THE LIAR




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indigobusiness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-25-04 07:07 PM
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15. Great post...I'm moving this to its own thread
if you don't mind?
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snippy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-25-04 07:29 PM
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24. Thanks. Feel free to use it in any way you wish.
I post it and send it to different people in the media from time to time. I know that it is too kind to Bush but keeping up to date with Bush's with lies can be so time consuming.
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JerseygirlCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-25-04 07:38 PM
Response to Reply #12
28. I'm just amazed any one person could keep all of that in their mind at one
time!

Excellent post!
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kskiska Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-25-04 09:45 PM
Response to Reply #12
47. Fantastic, Snippy!
That's a great synopsis of the entire four years of the Bush* Administration.
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HawkerHurricane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-25-04 07:49 PM
Response to Reply #8
36. Someone once said...
"He lies even when it is of no benefit to him. That is the sign of a true artist."

They were talking about Nixon.
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blueblitzkrieg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-25-04 06:59 PM
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9. She was great in that interview.
On CNN: "But is America ready for a foreign-born billionaire First Lady?"

Why does the press continue to harp on this OVER and OVER again?

"SHES FOREIGN! SHES GOT MONEY! LOTS OF MONEY! MORE THAN YOU!! A LOT MORE!! SHES REALLLLLY RICH AND YOURE NOT!!!!!!!!! CAN SHE REALLY BE FIRST LADY?? SHE HAS MONEY...AND SHES FOREIGN BORN! SHE WAS BORN IN A DIFFERENT COUNTRY..KINDA LIKE AL QUEDA!!" :eyes:

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faithnotgreed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-25-04 07:07 PM
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16. thanks for the great synopsis! welcome to du
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Hubert Flottz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-25-04 07:12 PM
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19. America was ready for Arnold Von Grope!
The GOPers even want to change the laws so Arnoid can be Resident!
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HysteryDiagnosis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-25-04 07:15 PM
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21. Why does the press....
continue to harp on this OVER and OVER again?<<

It is a non-question... a query without substance... a moot point... the question merits neither an answer nor any thought spent on it... it is a tool... a tool to seed doubt and fear... it's stupid.... and someone probably scripted it for them... who that might be... is anyone's guess.
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Booster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-25-04 07:28 PM
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23. I loved it when he said how did she feel about being
the first foreign born first lady and she said "i'll have to correct you. John Adams wife was the first; she was born in England" and Tweety looked stunned, as he should for not knowing that. She's a real firecracker, and after Pickles, the American people are ready for a firecracker. She's different from Hillary because she's softer; more like men want women to be,IMO.
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Moonbeam_Starlight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-25-04 11:11 PM
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50. I was watching it with someone with TiVo and we replayed
his mouth hanging open about five times because it was so damn funny. I swear we couldn't breathe. It wasn't just a LITTLE hanging open, his jaw hit the floor.

Priceless.
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shoopnyc123 Donating Member (997 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-25-04 06:59 PM
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10. She wasamazing in that interview...eom
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NMDemDist2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-25-04 06:59 PM
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11. Teresa is amazing isn't she?
what a class act :)
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Mr_Lefty Donating Member (253 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-25-04 07:03 PM
Response to Reply #11
13. YES she can win it for us
She is so human. There's no other word.
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Meldread Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-25-04 07:06 PM
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14. I'm not John Kerry's biggest cheerleader....
Edited on Sun Jul-25-04 07:08 PM by Meldread
...but lemme tell you, I love Teresa Heinz Kerry. I adore her. I love her to death! I'm gay, and I'm in love with a straight woman who's married to the next President of the United States! :P

No, seriously. I love her to death. I saw that interview and Teresa... she's honest. She's smart. She's adorable. She's independent. She's a free thinker. She's everything that any woman should aspire to be! She is a role model for all women in America!

I'd love to see a debate between her and Laura. I mean, you can so obviously see the contrast between the two women. One is a fake shadow of a human being (Laura) and then you have a REAL American Woman who embodies something that is just... indescribable!

I say, we build a shrine to Teresa so we can worship her! :P (Okay, Im being a bit facetious, but I love her that much!)

EDIT:
I just want to say, if I never do anything else in life, I want to get a chance to hug Teresa Heinz Kerry. I mean just give her a BIG hug and tell her how much I respect and adore her!
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-25-04 07:12 PM
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18. I'm wild about her, too
When people ask who in this race do you want to sit down and talk with, I always say it's her! She is so savvy and yet so soft and natural, it makes me feel in awe of her. Her style is so darned hip.
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2Design Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-25-04 07:33 PM
Response to Reply #14
25. me too
She rocks
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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-25-04 08:14 PM
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40. I think a lot of people like her
Teresa reminds me of Jackie, except she's a modern version of Jackie.

Teresa has style, intelligence, wit, and class. She speaks multiple languages. If Kerry is elected, we can have foreign dignitaries visit the White House again (note that the Bushes never invite anybody over). We can count on Teresa to do and say (and wear) the right thing when she visits foreign leaders.

Remember when Jackie brought in the French chef and redid the White House and generally let some light and air into the stuffy old place?

It's due for another upgrade.
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Endangered Specie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-25-04 07:08 PM
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17. Shes soooo....
intelligent. (you thought I was gonna say opinionated heh?)
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-25-04 07:13 PM
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20. She's both!
And at the same time, she's not "off putting". She starts speaking and I'm so interested in what she's going to say.
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nefarious Donating Member (132 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-25-04 07:26 PM
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22. I'm extremely disappointed in some conservative friends
Who are behaving like wing nut sycophants with their latest obnoxious party smear on Theresa, who I'm convinced is a wonderful, decent, caring human being.

Instead of honestly stating she supports humanitarian causes, they're circulating emails accusing her of donating money to terrorist organisations, by saying that giving more than $4 million to the Tides Foundation means:

- they've entered into a joint-venture with billionaire "hate-monger" George Soros .

- they support the Democratic Justice Fund, which "seeks to ease restrictions on Muslim immigration from 'terrorist' states."

- they support the Council for American-Islamic Relations, whose leaders are known to have close ties to the terrorist group, Hamas.

- they support the National Lawyers Guild, organized as a communist front during the Cold War era. One of their attorneys, Lynne Stewart, has been arrested for helping a client, Sheikh Omar Abdel Rahman, communicate with terror cells in Egypt. He is the convicted mastermind of the 1993 World Trade Center bombing.

- they support the "Barrio Warriors," a radical Hispanic group whose primary goal is to return all of Arizona, California, New Mexico, and Texas to Mexico.

They go further to claim John Kerry and Theresa are "two people who despise successful entrepreneurship and who believe in the
confiscatory redistribution of wealth."

Looks like :puke: Karl Rove :puke: is putting the neo-con smear campaign into overdrive. What an evil godless sick bastard.
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2Design Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-25-04 07:34 PM
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27. Yes you need new friends..your old friends are uneducated....
welcome to du :)
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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-25-04 08:16 PM
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42. I've seen the same "talking points"
The people who show me these things aren't a bit concerned about the Bushes' long-time business relationship with the Saudis. That's because they're careful to stay away from any information that might upset their robotic impulse to do what their fundie pastor says and vote for BushCo.

I'm starting to lose friends and become more obnoxious about this. I am becoming more like Michael Moore - opinionated, in people's faces, and mouthy.

I refuse to sit down and shut up.
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-25-04 11:06 PM
Response to Reply #22
49. Tell your conservative friends that mitchum says...
"Blow me"

Why are you friends with stupid fuckwits like that?
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flordehinojos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-25-04 07:33 PM
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26. What did Matthews do?
Did he challenge Teresa Heinz Kerry when she said that? Did he try to put her down in any way? Did he shrug his shoulders and change the subject? Did he say,"are you accusing the president (sic) of lying?"

I did not see the show or the interview but I do know that whenever a democrat, Heinz-Kerry, or anyone else says anything close to the truth about their Boy Bush, Republicans immediately challenge the person saying it, or make them out to be liars, crazies, or go into spasms about, are they daring to question or doubt their miserable god Boy Bush.

I'd be interested in knowing what Matthews' reaction to Heinz-Kerry's statement was. I think it could say a lot about what he thought when she said it and about how he feels about her.
:D
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-25-04 07:40 PM
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30. He was as sweet as an altar boy towards her
None of the usual Tweety-on-speed. He let he have her say as if he was in awe of her. In other words - he behaved. I think he's feathering his nest since she's likely to be the next First Lady.
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flordehinojos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-25-04 07:45 PM
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33. Thanks.
That is good to know. I hope thinking Republicans were watching. They may have learned something from the Matthews/Heinz-Kerry exchange.
Thanks again. :D
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CaTeacher Donating Member (983 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-25-04 07:41 PM
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31. I think she is one of Kerry's strongest assets
He needs to really have her at the forefront of the campaigning--because American is going to LOVE her!!!
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flordehinojos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-25-04 07:49 PM
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35. Yes!
Heinz-Kerry has that kind of personality, doesn't she? It is almost impossible to hate her--that is why I think a lot of push-the-emotional-buttons republicans are going to attack her as much they can...and that would probably be only because they might be feeling drawn towards her.
:hippie:
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Booster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-25-04 07:41 PM
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32. I got the feeling Tweety was just a little
scared of her; he didn't yell at her or interrupt her like he does everybody else. He actually showed more respect for her than he has anyone else. I think he had the feeling that she could rip him to shreds if she really wanted to. ha
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-25-04 07:48 PM
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34. She was nice when she corrected him
He asked her if America was ready for a foreign born First Lady. She let him know that Mrs. Adams (the second one)was born in England.
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flordehinojos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-25-04 07:53 PM
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37. Teresa has a lot of class, doesn't she?
Teresa has a lot of class, but she also has humility. What a gentle contrast to the sorry bunch of arrogants in the WH today!
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Aintmizbehaving Donating Member (3 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-25-04 07:40 PM
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29. Teresa and Bush's 'untruths'....

LOL...oh, well if the shoe fits.....I think Teresa is cool...she's intelligent, savvy, says what she thinks...she's a breath of fresh air, as far as I am concerned.....and she can say whatever she likes...I doubt anyone is going to stop her....
After all, Bush IS a liar......
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wishlist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-25-04 07:54 PM
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38. She called Rick Santorum the opposite of everything John Heinz stood for
back when Santorum was anointed to take Heinz' Senate seat. The CNN People in the News profile of her today showed a clip of her making that statement after Heinz' death. Also very true!
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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-25-04 08:09 PM
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39. More charisma than J. Kerry
She was reluctant to be in the limelight and not enthusiastic about her husband running for Pres. She also doesn't like politics but she sure is savy and down to earth. Those who put her down are probably scared of her. She will be a real asset to America as first lady. J. Edward's wife is also formidable. No stepford wives.
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-25-04 08:18 PM
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43. I saw the interveiw and I liked her. She seems real. Not like Laura the
stepford wife.
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fujiyama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-25-04 08:21 PM
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44. She kinda grows on ya
I'll admit, it took me a while to like to take a liking to her. At first I just found her veru unusual.

Over time I'm come to realize what everyone here likes about her -- she's very intelligent and eloquent, and her direct manner is very refreshing. There's something very sincere about her.

She'll make an amazing first lady.
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otohara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-25-04 08:49 PM
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46. Her Speech In Denver
She is so soft spoken - almost a whisper - She's very worldly and wise. She was very late in getting there, when she walked out on stage Kerry scooped her up in his long arms and didn't let go
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maggrwaggr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-25-04 10:42 PM
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48. Good thing she said it, and not Obama
:eyes:
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CaTeacher Donating Member (983 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-26-04 02:13 AM
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51. She just gets better and
better! I bet the repugs are sooo scared of her! She will tell it like it is and show them no mercy!
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