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Gothic Sponge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-25-04 04:24 PM
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Poll question: Who are you? (What's your ideology?)
Where do you stand?

Sorry, polls are turned off at Level 3.

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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-25-04 04:27 PM
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1. very lib dem but a yellow dog at that too
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-25-04 04:31 PM
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2. Human
- born an a place called "New Orleans"
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The Crazy Canadian Donating Member (260 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-25-04 04:36 PM
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3. What about Progressive?
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Gothic Sponge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-25-04 04:40 PM
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5. Progressive is liberal
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Mike Niendorff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-25-04 04:51 PM
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17. No, it is not.
Edited on Sun Jul-25-04 04:56 PM by Mike Niendorff

Although we do have areas of commonality, we have a decidedly stronger focus on labor and economic issues than do those who classify themselves as "liberal".


MDN

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Gothic Sponge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-25-04 04:56 PM
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21. Yes it is!
Edited on Sun Jul-25-04 04:56 PM by Gothic_Sponge
Please, people that call themselves progressives are just trying to hide from the liberal label.
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Mike Niendorff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-25-04 04:58 PM
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23. Then you clearly don't understand what that label means.

But see it however you like. As for me, I know where I stand, and why.


MDN

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The Crazy Canadian Donating Member (260 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-25-04 04:57 PM
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22. The Left has two major blocks.
Liberals - tend to be status quo types

Progressives - want to pursue real change

I think Progressives are closer to Social Democrats/Socialists then they are too Liberals, in Canada anyways.

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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-25-04 04:37 PM
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4. *I* don't fucking matter right now
The country does. So for the next three months, my ideology is get Bush the fuck out of the White House. There's time for *my* ideology after that.
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nofurylike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-25-04 04:41 PM
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6. here-here!! well said sandnsea. ditto, if i may? thank you. n/t
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ulysses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-25-04 04:46 PM
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10. it's so rare
to see sanctimony masquerading as selflessness...
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-25-04 04:53 PM
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19. THAT is my ideology
It isn't sanctimony. *I* don't fucking matter, *I* am not that fucking important. *I* do not equate to the pimple on god's ass, in the scheme of things. I certainly have preferences on how I think things should be, but I've given enough stupid advice to friends and family over the years, made enough mistakes of my own, to know my way is certainly not the only way and often not the best way.
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ulysses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-25-04 05:01 PM
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27. and yet, we all go about the business of citizenship
based on our own best lights - or at least we're supposed to. I'm down with the communitarian idea as well, and we're all human, but I guess that the total denial of the self strikes me as an odd ideology. You be you, though - my apologies for the sanctimony quip as long as you apply it only to yourself.
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nofurylike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-25-04 05:00 PM
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26. so, that was a demonstration of it, yes ulysses?
you must have NO IDEA how many millions have had to set aside personal beliefs and priorities to save this country, this world, from what we and our forebears have let happen to this country, and let it do to this world and this planet.

i do see millions are also too arrogant to care about that. i wish i felt i had that luxury.

well, no one does any more.



peace
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ulysses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-25-04 05:06 PM
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29. no.
I'm quite well acquainted with the experience of voting against many of my preferences and hopes. I've been doing it for going on 20 years.

And I just apologized for the sanctimony remark, although having the active denial of ideology as one's ideology still strikes me as weird.
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nofurylike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-25-04 05:12 PM
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30. i saw your apology after posting, or wouldn't have posted exactly as
i did.

if everyone's idealogy decided their vote, we'd...

have to have a truly representative government -
which i, as much as most here seem to, will keep working for in the future.

two parties doesn't work, it's true. but for now, this is extreme crisis.


peace
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Gothic Sponge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-25-04 04:49 PM
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14. Well, i think it's a given for ABB
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-25-04 04:50 PM
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15. But that it were
I wouldn't feel the need to say that if I thought ABB was a given. It's obviously not if people are going to go into a hissy-fit over Obama.

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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-25-04 04:41 PM
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7. Anti-partisan independent.
:evilgrin:
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flamingyouth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-25-04 04:44 PM
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8. I'm a Democrat/Socialist
I'm generally pretty far to the left. :hi:
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Gothic Sponge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-25-04 04:48 PM
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12. Same here
I'm a Democrat/Socialist
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Cascadian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-25-04 05:30 PM
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37. Right here!
Edited on Sun Jul-25-04 05:31 PM by Cascadian
I am actually more left of center. I am also planning to join these guys....


Democratic Socialists of America

http://www.dsausa.org /


John
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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-25-04 04:45 PM
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9. Hey, you forgot to include Indy's in the graph...
tsk-tsk! There are alot of Indys out here that of late have been dissatisfied with the performance of the Dem Party!!!

Don't forget US!
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Gothic Sponge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-25-04 04:47 PM
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11. You're right. Sorry!
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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-25-04 04:48 PM
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13. Soaright...I'm voting for Kerry/Edwards anyway..nt
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Mike Niendorff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-25-04 04:50 PM
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16. Progressive

Or, possibly, "Radical Progressive" -- depending on how badly my views offend :)


MDN

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salin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-25-04 04:52 PM
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18. er.. that second choice seems... tilted
a DLC democrat does not view themselves as a republican. Sorta shows the author of the poll's bias by wording it that way. Could have said DLC Centrist... or DLC pragmatic moderate/centrist... etc. The difference? I would bet that members of the DLC no longer embrace ole Zell.. bet he has become TOO GOP enabling for even the dlc.
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mandyky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-25-04 04:54 PM
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20. I am a Howard Dean Democrat
who voted for Nader in 2000. I am very independent. More than ideology, I go with the candidate that I trust. I am a registered Dem.
I believe we need to mix capitalism with socialism to make America just and a nice place to live for all!
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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-25-04 04:59 PM
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24. You missed the Independents who despise the cabal.
I voted 'other' because it isn't clear where voters click who are against phoney wars, killing, maiming, destroying, and stealing and loss of rights.
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MoonRiver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-25-04 05:00 PM
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25. I voted Very Liberal, but I'm not sure how that category differs
from Liberal? Is it Progressive?
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mvd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-25-04 05:02 PM
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28. I'd say the Democrat/Socialist combo
I feel that no one should be without necessities (and that includes electricity and running water.)
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Mr.Green93 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-25-04 05:17 PM
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31. left of Pol Pot
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JohnNash Donating Member (5 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-25-04 05:19 PM
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32. What is a "Communismt"
Is that the same as a Lutheran
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Gothic Sponge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-25-04 05:25 PM
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33. LOL!
It's an ideology that doesn't check their spelling. Welcome to DU!
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HFishbine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-25-04 05:26 PM
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34. Progressive Independent
No category for me.
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-25-04 05:27 PM
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35. I Am A Harry Truman, John Kennedy, Robert Kennedy Democrat
pro civil rights, liberal on economic issue, and tough but not stupid when it comes to defense and foreign policy....
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Cascadian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-25-04 05:28 PM
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36. Democratic Socialist with a Libertarian bent.
eom


John
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