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Blue_Roses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-25-04 03:52 PM
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I see the trolls, hacks, and "dividers" will be out in full force
Edited on Sun Jul-25-04 03:56 PM by devrc243
this week, actually from what I've seen on the tube and net it's already started. This week is too important for us to let them win. I've watched a hell of alot of conventions in my lifetime but NOT ONE compares to this one this week.

Looking for the "perfect" word from candidates, senators, ex-presidents, ex-vice-presidents, governors, mayors, and whoever else decides to speak, to justify supporting Kerry isn't what this election is about.
WE need change in this country and we need it NOW. I for one have been waiting 3 and 1/2 LONG years for this moment and I'll be dammed if a bunch of "dividers" run it for us.

:D
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kiahzero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-25-04 03:54 PM
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1. I demand perfection!
If everything is not exactly how I want it, then everyone involved in whatever's got me pissed off must be a Bush-lite enabler.
:eyes:
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Liberal Veteran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-25-04 03:56 PM
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2. Shut up! I am more liberal than you are so you don't count!!!!
LOL
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Jim Sagle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-25-04 03:58 PM
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7. Cut his mic! Cut his mic!
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Zomby Woof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-25-04 04:19 PM
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16. It seems to me
That Xantha isn't as far left as Logan, but much further to the left than Tonka!

;-)
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Tandalayo_Scheisskopf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-25-04 03:56 PM
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3. Hear, Hear!!
Enough of what is happening in this country right now. We need to start the process of restoring sanity to this country, in every area of governance. Sanity will not be restored by the right taking us down this present path. Nor will it be restored by everyone putting on their Che' berets and lobbing bombs and manning barricades.

First things first: Get the Johns elected. That is manageable. Then...
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Blue_Roses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-25-04 03:58 PM
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6. well said!
:kick: :bounce:
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-25-04 05:01 PM
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23. Tag. I'm with you, buddy. I want REAL progress and no bomb thrower
will ever lead the way towards unifiying a nation.
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-25-04 03:57 PM
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4. I agee with you. The most important issue we face is the removal of
Edited on Sun Jul-25-04 03:58 PM by merh
the weed that would be king from office. We have to unite to make this happen. :bounce: :bounce:


Edited for clarity.
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Tsiyu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-25-04 03:57 PM
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5. Yes, we are in for it now
It's going to get uglier and uglier until the next President is inaugurated. Just buck up, Child. Put on your armor and your face of flint and HUGE filters for your ears and eyes because both verbal and written crap is gonna be flying all over the place.

We can get through this. Keep smiling and sending positive Kerry vibes and mojo throughout the universe.....
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-25-04 03:59 PM
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8. Kickin' this post for sweet UNITY!
:kick:


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Moonbeam_Starlight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-25-04 04:02 PM
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9. I don't watch TV
Edited on Sun Jul-25-04 04:03 PM by Moonbeam_Starlight
it helps to keep my blood pressure down. I read newspapers and articles on the internet. They are much quieter. I don't listen to talk radio, either. Not even Air America, because I have to get it over the internet and it's kinda impossible right now with my schedule.

I have a feeling not watching TV is going to be a better and better thing as this year wears on. Now if something TRULY HUGE happens, I do tend to turn it on just to check things out on a more immediate basis.

But the talking heads? I take a pass on them. All of them.

On edit: I agree with others here....get the Johns elected. GET THEM ELECTED. THEN......
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2Design Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-25-04 04:17 PM
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15. I don't know....sometimes...realising..by reading DU makes you
more aware of the criminal acts being done. I know yesterday, I had lunch in a quiet area and thought, none of these people are even thinking about or caring what is going on. And they only watch TV and still have no idea what is going on....

I find being more aware makes it even more important.
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Rose Siding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-25-04 04:02 PM
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10. It's quite the conundrum.
We must get rid of Bush without letting anyone suspect that it's the desire to get rid of Bush that ignites our fervor.

Behind the razor wire with Them!
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-25-04 04:13 PM
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14. That's dishonest.
Everyone knows it's the desire to get rid of Bush that motivates us. In fact, that's what motivates most of America right now. It's all just a matter of how we articulate it. If you'd like to debate tactics, that's fine. But we shouldn't carve up our allies in the process.


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Rose Siding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-25-04 04:27 PM
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19. I'm not sure of the disagreement
The razor wire remark was sarcasm and I don't approve of the decision made by whoever to play nice-nice with convention rhetoric.

Unfortunately, debating tactics at this point is futile.
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mitchtv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-25-04 04:06 PM
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11. All over DU , also
under lots of names- nader, Cobb, to name two. Time to be in (Ihate to say) lockstep- till 11/03
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Blue_Roses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-25-04 04:07 PM
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12. ...
sad to say but yep...
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HFishbine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-25-04 04:12 PM
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13. Change for change sake,
Or is that conversation over too?
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Blue_Roses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-25-04 04:48 PM
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20. um, well
not sure what you mean by "is that conversation over too" but um, no, guess not :)
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Zorra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-25-04 04:20 PM
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17. UNITE against the dictator that stole the 2000 election.
Bu$h is deliberately destroying our nation and our democracy.

We can only make things better if John Kerry is elected.

Bottom line.
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Tosca Donating Member (540 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-25-04 04:25 PM
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18. Have you heard
what Benedict Obama said today?!?!
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Blue_Roses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-25-04 04:49 PM
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21. NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOooooooooo....
not again :crazy: :crazy: :crazy: :crazy: :crazy: :crazy: :crazy: :crazy: :crazy:
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Tosca Donating Member (540 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-25-04 05:13 PM
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25. Geez,

it was just a joke.
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mellowinman Donating Member (540 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-25-04 04:54 PM
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22. Go here
http://www.americanpolitics.com

Maybe there's hope for you.

Maybe not.

Good luck on your quest.

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Tosca Donating Member (540 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-25-04 05:25 PM
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26. And good luck on your quest!

For a sense of humor!
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JohnLocke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-25-04 05:10 PM
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24. Ehem.
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-25-04 05:32 PM
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27. Right. The folks who can forgive Ralph Nader for anything,
including cozying up to the GOP to get ballot signatures,
are suddenly appointing themselves in charge of what THE MESSAGE should be from all Dem. outlets. Thanks for your support, folks!
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maxanne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-25-04 06:21 PM
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28. we do need change
but you're out of your head if you think the only problem is GW Bush. He's just a symptom of the disease.

Of course if one dares to criticize even a little, or march outside of lockstep, one is declared a perfection-seeking traitor.

Censoring dissent doesn't solve the Democratic Party's problems.
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Blue_Roses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-25-04 09:51 PM
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33. GW is the big problem which has created
Edited on Sun Jul-25-04 09:53 PM by devrc243
BIGGER PROBLEMS and no, I'm not out of my head. I had "dubya" for governor before we had the pleasure of his "endowment" in the WH and I knew in 2000 that he would be a flop. He was as governor and is even MORE SO as President.

He IS the problem, that along with his cronies.

And as for "criticism"... even just a "little," doesn't have anything do with being a so-called "perfection-seeking traitor." There is a huge difference in critical DEBATE and outright slandor. They are not one in the same.

This week is suppose to shine for the Democrats...we deserve it!
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jimshoes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-25-04 08:13 PM
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29. The dividers are frankly nothing more than a nuisance any more
Their message is spent and is meaningless. They have nothing but worn out RW talking points to sell, and no one's buying. The pubs themselves are second guessing the chimperor. I saw it again today at my nephew's graduation party, in heavily puke community the support for chimpy is almost non-existent.
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-25-04 08:22 PM
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30. Some us may be concerned theat Kerry is going to blow it
Edited on Sun Jul-25-04 08:22 PM by depakote_kid
by giving Bush a pass and not highlighing the hundreds of outrages that this administration has purpetrated over the past 4 years. Playing Mr. nice guy and not focusing people on issues that the media will almost certainly NEVER bring up, the Kerry camp in effect legitimizes them to some extent.

Some of us also see a lack of a coherent strategy to nationalize the election and win back the House and Senate. What's happened in the House, in the past 10 years is equally outrageous- and we'll be sure to get even more of it unless their actions are exposed and individual Republicans are held accountible for walking lock step with Tom Delay.
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Blue_Roses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-25-04 09:45 PM
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31. there's plenty of time to do that
in the debates to come. This week is the "getting to know Kerry" week...

:eyes:
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donco6 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-25-04 09:50 PM
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32. Amen (pardon the expression)
I'm not naiive enough to believe that Kerry is the perfect candidate, but Jeez, consider the alternative! Bush is an utter fascist, and 4 more years of that nutjob will be unimaginable! It's time to rally 'round our guys. There's plenty of time later to express what we'd like them to do differently, but it won't do any good if they're not in a position to effect any change. There's a time for blind ideology, but that time is not now.
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Blue_Roses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-25-04 09:55 PM
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34. well said
and a :toast: for our guys. May they shine this week :toast:
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