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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-25-04 11:13 AM
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The CITY OF BOSTON Is Responsible For Free Speech Zone People NOT KERRY
You want to bitch about the Free Speech Zone... then contact the CITY OF BOSTON and it's MAYOR.

I live in New York, and the venues for the Protestors is decided by BLOOMBERG.

Even the crappy NYTimes has been on Bloomberg's case for where demonstrators will be allowed to meet... on a highway MILES from the GOP Convention. A long, narrow highway which will no doubt be closed in like Boston. Bloomberg refuses to allow the use of Central Park citing LAWN MAINTAINANCE for not allowing it :eyes:

It is UP TO BOSTON AND ITS MAYOR to change things.

Should Kerry speak up?

Possibly, but it is STILL up to the MAYOR to find another spot for protestors.
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Toots Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-25-04 11:17 AM
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1. Actually it is the Secret Service that is demanding this
:shrug:
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-25-04 11:18 AM
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2. They May Demand Netting & Razorwire... But They Don't Determine VENUE
it is the MAYOR who finds and allots LOCATION.

Perhaps in conjunction with police... but it is STILL the Mayor who decides.

Unless Boston is somehow radically different in governance than NYC. :)
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donsu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-25-04 11:19 AM
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3. is Kerry's mouth taped shut? can't he speak out?

he better speak out or we will believe he is for prison yards for protesters.
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-25-04 11:23 AM
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4. You hit the nail on the head! What the Kerry campaign could do is join
in the suit challenging the "free speech zone". That would be a positive and legal step that could be taken and it would freep out the protestors!
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Lindacooks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-25-04 11:40 AM
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5. Thank you, and a kick!
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mindem Donating Member (353 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-25-04 11:54 AM
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6. Bush has been using free speech zones since day one!!
Where is all the outrage over that? Talk about the pot calling the kettle black. It's a damned if you do damned if you don't situation. If extra caution wasn't taken in the way of security during the convention and something happened it would become a repuke talking point. "See how week on defense the liberals are". If the repukes do the same thing for their convention will there be an equal amount of outrage?
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creeksneakers2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-25-04 12:50 PM
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7. Other than the fence and razor wire
The free speech zone is the best the city can do. There's no room around the convention site for that many people. Protest organizers had to make a choice between being crammed in right across the street or moving farther away but having more room. Out of 100 protests, only ten chose the free speech zone.

Those who chose to protest at a distance will still get media coverage. Those who choose the cage will probably get extra publicity because of the cage.

I still wrote a letter to Kerry asking him to do something about the cage itself. I agree that it would be fantastic if Kerry could get it removed or better yet, walked across the street to meet the protesters. He has to do something fast though. If it looks like Kerry is doing something under pressure he will look even worse.

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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-25-04 12:55 PM
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8. Bloomberg Gave Option of QUEENS, IIRC.
in other words, in an entirely DIFFERENT borough.

Although subways make Queens accessible from Manhattan.
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starroute Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-25-04 01:42 PM
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10. Yeah, if you call an hour's subway ride "accessible"
That's about how far away Flushing Meadow Park is from the convention site by subway.
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-25-04 03:22 PM
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11. Too Bad He Didn't Say Coney Island
at least there'd be some fun attractions....
and Brooklyn is better 'n Queens :evilgrin:
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Killarney Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-25-04 12:58 PM
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9. Thank you! Sorry Kerry-haters. Try again.
I'm so sick of the Kerry haters here.
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jonnyblitz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-25-04 03:25 PM
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13. I am sick of kerry apologists
if it were bush behaving like this you all would be screeching your heads off...
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jonnyblitz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-25-04 03:25 PM
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14. I am sick of kerry apologists
if it were bush behaving like this you all would be screeching your heads off...
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jonnyblitz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-25-04 03:25 PM
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15. I am sick of kerry apologists
if it were bush behaving like this you all would be screeching your heads off...
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Still_Loves_John Donating Member (688 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-25-04 03:27 PM
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17. If Bush were behaving like what?
The whole point of this thread is that Kerry has nothing to do with the free speech zone.
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mdmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-25-04 03:23 PM
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12. Kerry should speak out
Come on Johns! Fight the fight that needs fighting.
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CaTeacher Donating Member (983 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-25-04 03:27 PM
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16. Everyone who does not
speak out against it--IS responsible for it.

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Selwynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-25-04 03:29 PM
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18. I like the guy who guessed that Kerry WILL speak out on it...
..during the convention, and look amazingly great doing so in a kind of "Mr. Gorbechev, tear down that wall!" kind of moment.

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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-25-04 03:30 PM
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19. Kerry should still denounce it.
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