no wonder Fox News isn't allowed in Canada

[Literate Tar Heel]

Bill O'Reilly just said Canada should be ashamed that so many of its young people are flat-out ignorant (because a large percentage (rightly) see our administration as an evil force in the world) ... um, I have absolutely no statistics in front of me to back this up, but I'd be willing to bet that Canadian teenagers are much better informed about world affairs than American teenagers are

[ayeshahaqqiqa]

1. Canada, I'm sorry for boors like O'Lielly

Just know that all Yanks aren't like him.

[Cha]

2. Is that for real? fauxsux isn't allowed in Canada?

Brilliant!

[mzmolly]

3. Canada, where REAL news prevails.

:hi:

[joanne]

4. It shouldnt be allowed in the US either

[HysteryDiagnosis]

11. Canada, where REAL news prevails.

http:\\www.globalresearch.ca

[StandUpGuy]

26. Canada where any news about Americans prevails.

Make no mistake our media in Canada is only slightly better.

We hide our dirty secrets with Bush Bashing.

When it comes to our own secrets the media dutifully tows the party line.

[mzmolly]

30. Awe c'mon don't blow my fantasy...

eh? ;)

[StandUpGuy]

35. Well if your fantasy is too live somewhere

you can find out what's really going on in the US then your fantasy can still hold.

[mzmolly]

36. Actually I view Canda as:

A more relaxed place to live, slower pace, good for raising families, clean fresh air, gentle decent people, no road rage ;) low crime etc...

Though I understand petty crime can be of issue?

I already know what's going on in the US, partly because I get my news here. :hi:

Thanks for the info.

[StandUpGuy]

39. Pretty good impression

and on the money, except the part about road rage.

We have it pretty bad, but without the guns.

We love it when Americans come visit and tell us how Nice we are so come on over any time.



:toast:

[mzmolly]

40. Will do..

:hi:

I was in Ontario last spring, ahhhhh. What a wonderful place. :)

[HysteryDiagnosis]

42. My Canadian Stay

I was in Ontario last spring, ahhhhh. What a wonderful place.<<

Several years ago... I went to Toronto... toured the vineyards around the Niagara area.... visited the historic sites... had a GREAT time... I could live there no problem.

[mermaid]

44. Thanks, I Think I Will Sometime

A friend of mine recently returned from Toronto, and regaled me with tales of cider...and of Younge Street. I sincerely would love to come to Canada for a while (in the summer of course) and enjoy seeing some of this stuff now that I'm old enough to appreciate it. Last time I was in Canada was when I was six...nearly 30 years ago!

And I wanna know if those Sudbury saloons really ARE the way Stompin' Tom sings about in the classic Sudbury Saturday Night...'cause if they are, Sudbury sounds like my kind of place!

You guys got all the GOOD stuff up there in The Great White North...you got Stompin' Tom...you got Bob and Doug McKenzie, you got Bill Murray, The Kids In The Hall...and of course, y'all got Geddy Lee!

Damn it all....

[Lautremont]

5. Oh, the young'uns done us proud agin!

With their sad, ign'ant ways. Some Canadians think the US is a crazy madhouse populated and governed by violent children. Thank god for DU and the opportunity to see that this isn't completely so. (Well, the "populated by" part anyway.)

[jimshoes]

6. I believe it's because...

Faux does not meet Canada's higher journalistic standards. Seriously.

[TrustingDog]

10. proud to be canadian, for the moment...

it's just a matter of time tho, us Canuckistanians are a bit behind fashion....

but I do so appreciate our much more open opportunities to lambast our dearless leaders.... Marg Delahunty (this hour has 22 minutes) would be Shot in the U Ass of A with what she did to our politicos. heh.

[jimshoes]

18. No newsreader in the USA has the balls

to tear into the chimp for 22 minutes. I'll try to catch her next time I'm spending an overnight.

[TrustingDog]

21. Mary Walsh doesn't do 22 mins any more.

Neither does Rick Mercer....

http://home.comcast.net/~wwwstephen/americans/
this is rick.

Rick Mercer, before the Chimp got the throne in 2000, asked Bush what he thought of Jean 'Poutine' (poutine is a gravy cheese thing on french fries, heh) from Canada....

of course the chimp didn't know what the fuck who the fuck is outside of Crawford and the world at large, he said something chimplike.

[jimshoes]

22. LOL

Thanks for that. I will have to remember that about the poutine.

[TrustingDog]

24. what Bush probably thinks about Bliar...

he sure speaks good English for a foreigner.

[Moonbeam_Starlight]

27. The chimp doesn't even know

his way around CRAWFORD. He is always driven there and didn't even buy that pig farm until the primaries. Bet he couldn't find his way there by car from Dallas with a map. Seriously.

[TrustingDog]

32. a compassless chimp with the red button with a short thumb...

and we are all safer...

[mermaid]

45. Shit, He Couldn't Find His Way There From WACO!!

And Waco is just up the road from Crawford...and, as Bushsh*t has never even read a NEWSPAPER, I seriously doubt he has the intelligence to read a MAP!!

[NYCGirl]

7. From MacLean's, the TIME magazine of Canada (survey from a while back)...

Canadian Attitudes toward President George W. Bush
According to a new poll, only 15 per cent of us would vote for the President
Jonathon Gatehouse
Macleans

MAYBE IT'S THAT SMUG LITTLE SMILE. His penchant for fantastically expensive military photo-ops. Or the swaggering, belt-hitching walk that cries out for a pair of swinging saloon doors. And though, God knows, we have too many of our own syntactically challenged politicians to be casting stones, shouldn't the leader of the free world know that "misunderestimate" isn't a word? Yes, we're cavilling, but clearly there is something about George W. Bush that gets under the skin of Canadians. After all, vehemently disagreeing with the policies of American presidents is almost a national pastime. There has to be another explanation for our extreme reaction, the desire afoot in the land to see him turfed from office. That and the unprintable sentiment about him and the horse he rode in on. Even before we know whom he will be running against this fall, Canadians have made their decision. Only 15 per cent, according to an exclusive new Maclean's poll, would definitely cast a ballot for Bush if they had the opportunity. And if Americans remain almost evenly divided -- some 50 per cent approve of his performance in the White House and he's running neck and neck with his likely Democratic challengers -- there is no such dithering on this side of the border. Just 12 per cent of us feel Canada is better off since he took office, and only a third of respondents will admit to liking the world's most powerful man, even just a little bit.

http://www.pollara.ca/new/LIBRARY/SURVEYS/bushnowayeh.htm

[jimshoes]

15. That is GREAT! I can just hear

one of yuns saying that to the smirkster's face. You guys rock! I get up to Windsor about once a month for some sightseeing. I'd like to move there one day.

[mzmolly]

23. That is awesome! I so wish I could move to Canada,

ey.

[mermaid]

8. I'd Bet You Were Right...

On my one and only trip REALLY out of the country (to Thailand) I had my eyes opened wide as to how shallow U.S. News reports are.

I have been to Canada and Mexico (border towns) but I don't really consider that to be out of the country, since the last time I was in Canada was nearly 30 years ago, at the age of six...and Mexican border towns don't really count.

I was in Thailand for three weeks. I spent about a week and a half of that in a hospital (I'd gone over to Thailand specifically to receive a surgery that was "elective" that insurance companies almost universally refuse too cover...and was out of my price range anywhere BUT Thailand...)

Anyway, in that week and a half, when I wasn't doing puzzle books, playing cards, doing my exercises to strengthen myself to speed recovery...or reading books I'd brought along, I watched TV. There were two stations that broadcast in English, both with Thai subtitles. One was Star Movie Channel. The other was BBC News.

Needless to say, as this was around the time of the 2002 elections back home, I spent a lot of that time watching BBC News, so I could get some news from back home. My eyes were opened WIDE as to how filtered and shallow our news in the United States is. If it didn't happen in the United States, or involve some interest of the United States, or happen to Americans living abroad...United States news services either do not cover it...or give it an obligatory 30 seconds buried deep in the newscast. It's like the rest of the world don't matter here in America.

But on BBC...a lot of things got good coverage that I'd never have even HEARD about had I been in the United States...like there had been an earthquake (I believe in Italy) where (I believe) 27 people were killed, when a school got demolished by the quake. It was a very small town in Italy. Anyway, this got extensive coverage on BBC, and I remember thinking, then, geez...I bet American news stations give THAT 20 seconds of coverage, if that much...

And I was appalled. I was appalled to realize that the rest of the world mattered so little to the average American that a story like that would not get more coverage. No we send money and aid, and then forget about them...and the average citizen doesn't even know it happened, and somehow we think that sending the money and aid excuses us from showing any other concern.

The Turkish elections were happening at the same time, and they got extensive coverage, too. I remember thinking that wouldn't even rate FIVE SECONDS on american news outlets! In spite of the fact that power majorly shifted in that election in Turkey. Some party called Justice And Something" got a vast majority of votes. (gimme a break, I'm reporting two year old news, and I no longer remember the full name of the party) but I remember something about it's leader being unable to assume some high office...something about how the old regime had made that party illegal...not really sure anymore.

But, the point is...I saw news when in Thailand, that never woulda gotten covered in the States. Having been in the States for virtually my entire life, I'd never noticed, or known, that our news was so filtered, and so U.S.-centered as to literally show utter contempt and disregard for the rest of the world...(if it didn't happen HERE...or it didn't affect our greedy corporate interests around the world...or it didn't happen to AMERICANS...it isn't important enough to report...)

so, I bet you are right with your assertion that Canadians are far more educated on world affairs than their American counterparts. In fact, so, apparently, are your Thai counterparts. I'd go so far as to say the average Ethopian probably is more cognizant of world affairs than your average American, because, for the most part, our big media has decided that the rest of the world isn't important enough to report on.

Then again, the average attention span of most Americans is depressingly short. It takes blood or fire, or some kind of human-made violence to really attract our attention....somehow, we can't be bothered to care about things like an earthquake that kills 27 schoolchildren in a tiny Italian village...or the Turkish elections in 2002, in spite of them resulting in a huge power shift in Turkey.

This was right around the same time as the attacks in Bali, and I'm betting (I don't know 'cuz I wasn't there) that our news back home was nothing but Bali, bali, bali...oh, the Americans that got killed in Bali (probably most Americans didn't even know the vast majority of those killed were AUSTRALIANS) because our news woulda focussed in on one or two AMERICANS getting killed, and who gave a crap if 65 Australians got killed (or how ever many it was, again, gimme a break, this is two year old news I'm reporting, and it isn't like this stuff got a lot of coverage by the time I got back to the States...) in fact, I doubt it if American news even covered the fact that the Bali attack was TARGETED against Australia. As retribution for Australia's involvement with the United States. United States news probably made big issue of the Americans that got killed, and spun the whole thing to look as though it was the AMERICANS who were targeted, and anyone else who died...well, they just got in the way, they weren't important...it was the AMERICANS that were...

And then we wonder WHY the rest of the world hates us, and calls us "Ugly American..."

Well, you ought to know not all of us Yanks are that way.

But, one could certainly get that impression with how little the Average American seems to know or care what happens in the rest of the world, to foriegners. Know that, for the most part, our corporate-controlled news media keeps us Americans in blissful ignorance.

[HEyHEY]

9. I swear to god, if I ever see him

I mean it, I'll kick his fucking ass.

[TrustingDog]

you remember the 'moron' bush thing a while back, eh?

when Cretin was asked if he thought Bush was a moron, he said,
"He plays a good round of golf"

ahahhahahah! good Brit humour handed down to a Frenchie. I laughed my Ass off over that and regained some respect for jean.

[Moonbeam_Starlight]

29. GET. IN. LINE.

Because if I get to him first........I'll use the one-two punch my stepdad taught me when he was drunk. I learned it well but have never had the opportunity to use it, damnit.

[Fed Up]

12. I heard that Canada also blocks out The Hitler Channel.

(History channel). Guess they don't want all that propaganda coming into Canada.

[HEyHEY]

13. no we get the history channel

[Minstrel Boy]

17. But it's our own history channel

different programming than in the US.

Less Nazis, more Rick Mercer.

[3trievers]

20. funny

Love it when Mercer trolls at Harvard and Princeton.

[TrustingDog]

28. hehe, it's the War Channel to me...

I tease my hubby about that....
Is That All There Is To History, War?

[blueblitzkrieg]

14. Oh God.

Just clicked over to the end of the show where O'Reilly pushes his shitty merchandise and he's prodding viewers to buy his "Boycott France" bumper stickers.

God, this man is an idiot.

[Mr_Spock]

16. Hey, it's the no spin zone!

He really, honestly and truly is Satan's workhorse. I can't say what I think he deserves for pushing Satan's ways on gullible hillbillies, but I'm sure you can find an appropriate punishment in his Bible if you want.

[Moonbeam_Starlight]

31. Boycott France?

Um, how completely OUT of it is this guy? Granted I never watch him, my gastrointestinal tract just would NOT be able to take it, but I remember my freeper friends boycotting French stuff like 18 months ago or some shit.

[AlCzervik]

37. Remember the often mentioned Paris Business Review?

the one that Blow claims backs up his France boycott is killing them???
Wish i'd thought of this.

http://www.parisbusinessreview.com/

very ausing and another oppurtunity to moch O'Lielly.

[Minstrel Boy]

19. "My Fox trot with Bill O'Reilly"

Great stuff from a few months ago by Globe and Mail columnist Heather Mallick:

Mr. O'Reilly is not a smart man. He's like one of those old guys you see on the street ringing a bell and shouting about eternal damnation. He talks to his trousers. You know the type. They let wasps nest in their hair so they can lure weasels, trap 'em and eat 'em slow over the summer.

We were supposed to be discussing American deserters fleeing to Canada; instead, he went off on some wild thing about the mayor of Vancouver injecting people with heroin and unless Canada shapes up, "we" will boycott you and destroy your economy, just like "we" did to France.

...

And then he asked me if I was a socialist, and I said, "Certainly," and it was as if I'd said I like donkey semen in my latte instead of milk. He then went into a mad rant about lefties like Mr. Doyle and how I was a typical Globe columnist. I said, no, truthfully, I think I'm regarded as "idiosyncratic" (the first six-syllable word ever spoken on the O'Reilly show), and he erupted again.

It was like talking to a manic child who had eaten 800 cherry Pop Tarts for breakfast. He kept interrupting, so that no point could be made that could win a reply, much less a reasoned response -- not so much a gabble of sound bites as a howling from Bedlam.

http://www.globeandmail.com/servlet/ArticleNews/TPStory/LAC/20040501/MALLICK01/TPComment/Columnists

[Moonbeam_Starlight]

34. OMG everyone MUST

read the rest of that article Minstrel Boy provided a link to. Hilarious AND sad at the same time!!!!

[5thGenDemocrat]

50. "Like talking to a manic child who had eaten 800 cherry Pop Tarts..."

"...for breakfast."
Hahahahaha (cough cough) hahahaha!!
John
One of the best things about going to the Saginaw Spirit (OHL) games here is getting to chatter with the visiting Canadians between periods. There's nothing they like more than smacking Chimpy around (in a nice kind of way, of course).
It's hockey, then bash Bush for fifteen minutes, more hockey, more Bush bashing, some more hockey -- then head to the bar.

[Moonbeam_Starlight]

25. I'm also willing to bet

that Canadian teenagers know FAR more about American than American teenagers know about both America AND Canada.

You know it's sad when you meet a Canadian, as I did recently, and you ask him where he's from in Canada and he says, "Well, Canada is divided into provinces, kinda like states...have you heard of Alberta?"

Now THAT'S sad. I had to stop his tutorial and tell him he didn't have to be so basic with me. He apologized and said he just got used to explaining it that way.

[mermaid]

46. I'd Bet You Are Right...AGAIN

I'm embarrassed to admit I do not even know WHO y'all's Prime Minister is, up there in The Great White North. It isn't like our news really covers Canada much, anyway...seriously, I don't think our news media even thinks of Canada as a SEPARATE NATION...

Now, being as I am less than 250 miles from the Mexico border, I DO know something a bit more about Mexico than Canada...but not from our news. For example, I can tell you that the President of The Republic of Mexico is Vicente Fox.

But damned if I know who the Prime Minister of Canada is. Sorry!

Maybe one of you Canucks could kindly clue me in.

Though, I must say, he must be a fairly decent guy or we'd hear more about him in the States, eh? Last I remember, y'all's Prime Minister was a guy named Trudeau...which is probably out of date info anymore.

And I only remembered Trudeau, because that's the same last name as the author of "Doonesbury!"

[AntiCoup2K4]

33. Canadian news isn't perfect though

The "Global" network isn't FAUX, but it's heading that way, or at least that was my observation last summer. Definitely far to the right of CBC. And the National Post is pure neocon crap.

There's a reason why the CBC is under attack up there. The neo-fascists want them off the air - and FAUX replacing them.

[stableRadical]

38. At least Al-Jazeera is allowed in Canada

That way they can get the real truth about Middle East affairs.

[SidDithers]

41. Allowed, but probably not offerred by any cable companies..

The "monitoring for offensive content" restrictions imposed by the CRTC mean that our cable companies could be held responsible for what Al-Jazeera is saying on air. I think that's a headache that most companies will choose not to deal with.

CBC does a pretty good job of delivering "real truth" about most affairs - Middle Eastern or otherwise.

Sid

[DemDemDemko]

43. This Republican attack machine

shouldn't be allowed here.

[mermaid]

47. No...More Like...REPUBLICANS Shouldn't Be Allowed Here!!

Or anywhere else, for that matter!! }(

[SemperEadem]

48. the more I hear from that clown's mouth

the more I"m convinced that he's purposely provoking violence. He's no better than that 'preacher' who hates gays. They're about the same in intelligence--meaning NONE.

[liberalhistorian]

49. Exactly! I had the misfortune of watching

O'LIElly's interview with the Canadian journalists and the even greater misfortune of listening to his comments about it and I wanted to scream and throw things at the TV by the time it was done. He said that teenagers are teenagers no matter where they are and that if you were to poll American 14-year-olds, they wouldn't claim fear and dislike of Canada, therefore the Canadian teenagers response to the poll concerning their feelings about the U.S. has to be media-driven.

Umm......"where have you been, Billy Boy, Billy Boy, where have you been, charming Billy?" Canadian teens, like the rest of the countrymen and the rest of the world, too, for that matter, are far better informed about the U.S. than even most of our own citizens. A lot of our citizens don't even know much about our own country, let alone any others, and we are so woefully uninformed and ignorant about other nations it's beyond pathetic.

That's not the case in Canada and most other countries, though, they know more than enough about us and that's exactly where their fear and mistrust are coming from. What a shamelessly pandering ignorant arrogant SOB POS O'LIElly is. I wish I could tell him to his face to just SHUT UP! SHUT UP! JUST SHUT UP ALREADY!