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DemBones DemBones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-19-04 06:39 PM
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Do you think IraN was involved in 9/11?


Me, neither. Go vote at

http://www.cnn.com/360

because a lot of people are voting YES.
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shirlden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-19-04 06:40 PM
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1. Done
:kick:
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DenverDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-19-04 06:41 PM
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2. Shows the power of propaganda.
No facts, just transparent spin, and 47% agree to be willfully ignorant.

amerikkkans are damned stupid.
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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-19-04 06:41 PM
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3. I voted "No" but it is possible they were.
It has always been more likely that Iran was involved than Iraq.

That gives us absolutely no justifiable reason to attack them.

Does BushCo really think that Americans will fall for this?

"Oops. Wrong country. We really meant Iran. Let's go get 'em!"
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Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-19-04 06:49 PM
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13. Iran let Sept 11 Plotters Pass By ----- but so did the US!
Edited on Mon Jul-19-04 06:49 PM by 56kid
the headline in USA today was
Iran let Sept. 11 plotters pass by
No proof Tehran was in on attacks


http://www.usatoday.com/usatonline/newsindex11.htm

and I went, wa-a-a-it a minute, what about the United States? Didn't they do the same thing?
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Booster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-19-04 11:39 PM
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55. And, once again everyone is avoiding the elephant in the room
Saudi Arabia. 15 of the 911 terrorists were from Saudi, but when ANY other country is mentioned as being involved, Americans say "yeah, that's it. It was Iran" - God, Americans really are stupid.
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JSJ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-04 12:35 AM
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60. Iran will be Kerry's war if they keep this up n/t
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Moonbeam_Starlight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-19-04 06:43 PM
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4. The nos are winning now 53% to 47%
so kick this thread guys go vote.

Geez.
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DemBones DemBones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-19-04 07:01 PM
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24. That's what it was when I voted. I was

amazed at the high number agreeing that Iran was involved. It seems to me it's been a long time since CNN polls have been freeped. I figured they had fixed it so people can't vote two or three hundred times, or at least made it much much harder to do so. So now what the heck's going on?
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markses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-19-04 06:43 PM
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5. How many times are the American people gonna fall for this bullshit
Rock solid evidence. Saddam AlQaeda. Rock solid. No doubt. Everybody knows. Saddam WMD. then we all whine and cry when we learn it's all bullshit, and that's just when they start revving up the next line of bullshit. I mean, are you fucking kidding me?
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Cuban_Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-19-04 06:43 PM
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6. It's entirely possible.
Far more likely than Iraq.
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bahrbearian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-19-04 06:56 PM
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21. But not as likely as the WH.
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Cuban_Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-19-04 07:04 PM
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28. Umm...
I'm not a LIHOP/MIHOP adherent...
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bahrbearian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-19-04 07:05 PM
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29. Well I am.
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Cuban_Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-19-04 07:11 PM
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33. That's pretty obvious. n/t
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rfkrocks Donating Member (846 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-19-04 06:44 PM
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7. I'm confused I thought the Spanish, French and Iraqis
Edited on Mon Jul-19-04 06:45 PM by rfkrocks
pulled it off :crazy:
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AFSCME girl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-19-04 06:45 PM
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8. Thanks for this link..
I just voted and can't believe how close it is! 53%-No and
47%-Yes. :wtf: God, people are stupid!
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Moonbeam_Starlight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-19-04 06:46 PM
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9. Who else can totally see David Cross doing a routine on this shit?
You know how he has that silly voice and giggle? He could totally impersonate bush and do that voice:

"Ooops! Hee hee, wrong country! Darn, I thought it was IraQ, not IraN, hee hee don't worry we got it straightened up folks, hee hee, it's IRAN! Ok bombs away! Heee heee heee heee heee heee heee hee!!!"

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Ms. Clio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-19-04 06:50 PM
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15. Oh, yes, I can hear it now
David Cross is a god.
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bahrbearian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-19-04 07:00 PM
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23. we were using Clintons old Printers and the cartridge was bad.
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Moonbeam_Starlight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-19-04 07:01 PM
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25. ROFL!!!!!!
That was good.
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TrustingDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-19-04 06:46 PM
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10. no 53, yes 47... wtf...
what a dumbass poll to begin with - as if there's any other sort on big media....

supposedly, the frikken CIA/FBI/PENTAGON/WHOREHOUSE etc., with all the resources at their disposal, got it all wrong about Iraq but the Muriken people. Becky Jo from Pokipski and Melvin Slammard from Polk are to be the judges as to whether Iran had anything to do with 911... how... by checking out Beverly Hillbillies gramma Clampett's weather beetle?

so transparently a sway to get us all used to another big fat horking lie for another home invasion coming soon. ack. this is driving me nuts.
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TeacherCreature Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-19-04 06:46 PM
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11. no
The people involved in 9-11 died on 9-11.
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bahrbearian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-19-04 07:02 PM
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26. I really miss Dean.
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Moonbeam_Starlight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-19-04 07:03 PM
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27. Sigh
I do too. And I haven't had a naughty dream about him in a while, either, what's that about?

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bahrbearian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-19-04 07:10 PM
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32. Did ya notice how the mometum slowed after the DNC choose
Kerry
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Moonbeam_Starlight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-19-04 06:48 PM
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12. Kick it
vote, people, vote!
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AFSCME girl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-19-04 06:49 PM
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14. BTW...........
B*sh was just on BBC World News tonight saying "we are looking
into this" blah, blah, blah! What a moron! :grr:
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TrustingDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-19-04 06:55 PM
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19. that bushfucker is giving me high blood pressure...
cannot B E L I E V E all this same deja vous shit starting all over. ackkkkkkk!

I knew it was going to end up like this, but it's so Painful to see it happen in slow motion when you know what the end result is.

I feel so Sad for those stupid fucks that voted Yes on this poll. It's pathetic beyond words - it's like watching a 3 year old step off a curb into the path of a speeding bus.... you're just out of reach to do anything.... the horror...
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AFSCME girl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-19-04 07:07 PM
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30. I know, it makes
you sick! I don't know what I will do if we get into this
crap again! Too unreal!!! :mad:
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Gyre Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-19-04 10:59 PM
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49. He's not a bushfucker; we're bushfuckers.
He's just a fucker named bush.

Gyre
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-19-04 06:53 PM
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16. Good grief...the "yes" votes are way too many
what is it with people? If Iraq didn't do it then Iran must have?

Do Americans need someone to blame that much they will accept anything as proof..as long as they don't have to entertain the notion that their government isn't all that clean? Are people that afraid?

Do we just attack anywhere and everywhere until we feel like we got "them" all? We just scorch the earth? How many have to die before Americans feel safe again?

how pathetic is this...

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Moonbeam_Starlight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-19-04 06:53 PM
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17. It was one of those "I" countries!
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-19-04 09:33 PM
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46. Scary thing is...they might just think that way
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acmavm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-19-04 06:54 PM
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18. 49% yes, 53% no. The moral of this lesson boys and girls is NEVER
underestimate the blatant stupidity of the American public.
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TrustingDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-19-04 06:58 PM
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22. maybe it ISN'T the american public...
but a freeped/fixed poll.
gotta be.
to what end? so when the invasion does happen, it's was a 50/50ish kinda thang.

there is no way half the people want another Iraq... no Fucking way.
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IronLionZion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-19-04 06:56 PM
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20. It depends, How much oil does Iran have?
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bahrbearian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-19-04 07:07 PM
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31. More than North Korea does.
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demwing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-19-04 07:17 PM
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34. Actually, the entire planet was behind 9/11
"If you're not with us, you're againt us" has become "If you're not us, you're against us"
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laruemtt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-19-04 07:20 PM
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35. how'd saudi arabia get off
scotfree? they've got TWO i's!
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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-19-04 07:43 PM
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36. Do they laugh at us for believing their ploys and deceptions?
Does Bush lead them in a cheer?

I despise the transparency, boldness, graft, and horrible, despicable consequences.

We went from a criminal act against the U.S. on 9/11, that they could have prevented, to a takeover of the entire ME for profit for a few and the protection of Israel.

We're where we were in 2002 and early 2003 - we could read all the signs and we knew they were going to ignore the UN and the WMD search teams. Our representatives in DC let it happen. Redux?

Where are the peace leaders? Where are the negotiators? Will we have peace negotiations before or after a nuclear blast? Carter is quiet. Jackson is quiet. The Pope is quiet. The Scandinavians are quiet?

And Africans are being slaughtered. And there are not enough jobs. And millions are uninsured. And tax revenue has been grandly reduced because of the no-tax paying corporations, off-shore banking, and common and specialty jobs going overseas.


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dudeness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-19-04 07:56 PM
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37. a resounding NO..
this is just a continuation of propaganda to deflect poor judgment unsound intelligence and incompetence on behalf of bush blair and howard..remember this started with chalabi and links to iranian intel..people bought that and will buy this crap..
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peekaloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-19-04 08:05 PM
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38. We've always been at war with Iran!
:crazy:

Roll over and over Eric Blair.
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Berserker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-19-04 08:40 PM
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39. It's getting better
Yes 47%
50138 votes

No 53%
55963 votes
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LittleApple81 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-19-04 08:44 PM
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40. ACTUALLY AFTER ALL THE US HAVE DONE TO THEM it would
not be surprising if they have some deep seated resentment. I don't think they got involved in 9/11 but 9/11 is nothing compared to what we have done to Iran over the years.

Read some political history of Iran and how we put the Sha in the throne eliminating a democratic government and all the ROTTEN things we did there.
Then helping Iraq against them... hmmmmmmmm
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Zynx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-19-04 08:47 PM
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41. I actually don't know.
Iran has always been a much bigger threat than Iraq ever was. I'll say that much about it.
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mvd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-19-04 08:51 PM
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42. Voted No
Thanks for posting. And my opinion won't change if the "independent" 9/11 commission says they did. After all, this is the same commission that's trying to hide what Clinton did to stop terror.
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snoochie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-19-04 08:55 PM
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Did Bush say that? If so then I'm inclined not to believe it.
He lies more than he tells the truth.
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snoochie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-19-04 08:55 PM
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43. Did Bush say that? If so then I'm inclined not to believe it.
He lies more than he tells the truth.
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walldude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-19-04 09:04 PM
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45. My favorite thing about this
Edited on Mon Jul-19-04 09:05 PM by walldude
Is the minute the 9/11 commision said there was no link to Al-Quada and Iraq, Bush, Cheney and Rummy said the commission was either wrong or lying but now that they have some info they like the commission is doing a great job.. What a crock. You know what? I don't give a shit if Iran had anything to do with 9/11. I think we've killed enough Muslums to have gotten our revenge by now, don't you? I think it's time someone with a fucking brain realized that killing terrorists(and innocents) is not stopping terrorism, and that we need to get at the root of this damn problem before Bush and his buddies get us all killed. Sorry bout all the cussing but between this Iran thing and Linda Ronstadt, I'm really pissed off..
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Bush was AWOL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-19-04 08:57 PM
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44. Do you guys disagree with Iran having a role in 9/11
because you don't want another war or do you honestly believe they did not have a role?
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Gyre Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-19-04 11:10 PM
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53. I think it's bullshit.
Not a single one of the 9/11 hijackers was Iranian. The ONLY evidence out there to get to this INFERENCE, is that the Iranians didn't stamp the hijacker's passports before they left Iran. Not even close enough to merit a diplomatic tongue-lashing in the real world IF it's even true. How can you even ask this question in light of having been lied to already? Does anybody believe any of these administration pieces of shit anymore when they're trying to prep America for "war"?

BTW, FUCK PREEMPTION as an American doctrine. That is nothing more than an extremely weak excuse to justify American aggression against countries that pose no threat to America AND it's unAmerican as hell.

Just another example of Bush attempting to kiss Ariel Sharon's ass and hasten armageddon if you ask me.

Gyre
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VOX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-19-04 11:26 PM
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54. What is meant by "having a role," anyway? This is total bullshit.
Is BushCo is starting to define its enemies as "having a role," in 9/11, well, then, they can then justify going after anyone/anything.

If BushCo wants to zero in with this definition, it seems to me that the U.S. itself "had a role" in 9/11 -- this country harbored the 9/11 terrorists, did not root them out when there were specific warnings, trained them in private flight schools, and basically gave them the means with which to kill 3,000 people.

Bullshit.

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Kool Kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-04 12:15 AM
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57. I disagree because the country they should be looking
at is SAUDI ARABIA. Not Iran or Iraq. No, this is another distraction ploy by Bush. I'm so glad he found something in the report that he finally liked.
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wickerwoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-19-04 09:37 PM
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47. How brown is their skin and how much of our oil are they sitting on?
Sounds like a yes to me.

Yeeeeeeeeee haaaaaaaaaw!
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JackRiddler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-19-04 10:33 PM
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48. It's a bet
How many wars can you get out of 9/11? They seem to think after Afghanistan and Iraq (which they got caught on) they can still do Iran and if necessary Saudi and Pakistan. A lot of mileage out of that one day.

You know, the alleged 9/11 ringleaders passed through Germany. Obviously the deutsch are in on this. We need to bomb Hamburg.

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homelandpunk Donating Member (787 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-19-04 11:03 PM
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52. I think they would like to squeeze 9/11 for more, and did make that bet
that it was good for Iraq AND Iran. The ramping up of this 4 months from election PROVES THEY GIVE NO THOUGHT TO LOSING IN AN ELECTION.
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homelandpunk Donating Member (787 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-19-04 11:00 PM
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50. Who cares?
I can't get worked up anymore about fucking Iran after all this shit. Anybody who can get "worked up" NOW over Iran after ALL of the constant propaganda, really is worthless, unredeemable trash.

I mean, who cares? How can anyone feel a need to react to this????

If anyone feels the need to care, to react to them, to that bunch of gallow-bound greedy shit-flinging, nose-picking devils, needs to think about ending it and hoping for a better incarnation where a higher quality brain might be made available to them. No. Really.
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-19-04 11:01 PM
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51. I don't know, but I'm sure Bush was involved
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burrowowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-04 12:05 AM
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56. Iran as a government: NO!
And there were no IRANIANS!
Bu$h was involved, yep! Either LIHOP or MIHOP!
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Kipepeo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-04 12:18 AM
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58. No
fucking sheeple
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gauguin57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-04 12:21 AM
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59. No! It was North Korea! Or .... uh ... FRANCE! That's it ...
Edited on Tue Jul-20-04 12:23 AM by gauguin57
If it was anyone, it was al-Qaeda plus the U.S. (LIHOP or just laziness and incompetence) plus the Saudis plus perhaps certain ELEMENTS in Iran.

But OH MY GOD I don't want the Bush Admin. to go off half-cocked (no comments from the peanut gallery!) and invade Iran now.

Cripes!

FRANKLY, I want to see the FULL conclusions of the 9/11 Commission before I start even thinking about this. This leaky leaky stuff is annoying me.
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