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Moonbeam_Starlight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-19-04 06:03 PM
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Oh no! CNN just reported that the bush administration says that Iran
is accused of developing a nuclear weapons program!!!!

Oh My Sweet Aunt Tilley. Are there ACTUALLY people who don't know this? And they are saying it like it's NEW????? How stupid does the bush administration think we are, exactly????

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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-19-04 06:07 PM
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1. Looks like BushCo has decided Iran will be war number 3.
It was a close call there for awhile between Iran and Syria, but it seems like Iran gets to be third.
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Kahuna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-19-04 06:23 PM
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16. Yep. He will need a draft to execute it.
nt
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tinrobot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-19-04 06:25 PM
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18. It's the oil...
Iran has a lot more oil than Syria.

End of story.
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HawkerHurricane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-19-04 06:32 PM
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21. Dang!
I had Syria in the pool.
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Moonbeam_Starlight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-19-04 07:05 PM
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29. I did too
I really figured Syria WAY before Iran! Who knew?
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htuttle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-19-04 06:07 PM
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2. Last week, North Korea practically boasted of having a nuclear weapons...
...program. They said that yes, many of their nuclear programs are intended to support weapons research.

Are nukes somehow more dangerous if possessed by a country with vast oil reserves?
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HysteryDiagnosis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-19-04 06:17 PM
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9. Vast oil reverses (play on words)
Are nukes somehow more dangerous if possessed by a country with vast oil reserves?<<

Vast oil reverses the thought processes of otherwise somewhat sane individuals.

then again... with all that oil lying around and stuff... one could slip and accidentally hit the "go" button and do an unintended launch... just like what almost happened in the Soviet Union in I think 1996....

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/missileers/falsealarms.htm...
The Cuban missile crisis is the best-known example of narrowly avoiding nuclear war. However, there are at least four other less well-known incidents in which the superpowers geared up for nuclear annihilation. Those incidents differed from the Cuban missile crisis in a significant way: They occurred when either the U.S. or Soviet or Russian leaders had to respond to false alarms from nuclear warning systems that malfunctioned or misinterpreted benign events.
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ck4829 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-19-04 06:09 PM
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3. It begins...
War will probably start in about 3-6 months. I feel bad for the Iranians. It's the government that's corrupt, not them. There is for example 'Iranian-Americans for Kerry' which is proud of the fact that Kerry chased down Oliver North who was helping the corrupt Iranian government.
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1monster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-19-04 06:15 PM
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6. I wonder at which point Bush will start closing the borders for people
wishing to leave The Bush Evil Empire to save their children from being cannon fodder?

I feel sorry for all of the people that these mad men are targeting. But I am terrified for this country and those of us who live here...
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Snoggera Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-19-04 06:17 PM
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7. I feel bad for the Iranians too
but I feel bad for the Americans who will have to die in another war for no reason.

Maybe we should keep in mind that this could just be, for once by these bastards, blustering prior to diplomatic agreements. Also, don't forget the old "look over here, then hit them there" trick.

I can't believe all these bastards can talk about is who to attack next. Is war all they ever think about? Well, I already know the answer to that question.
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reprobate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-19-04 06:14 PM
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4. And just what army are they going to use to invade Iran?

Our forces are so overstretched now that they are recalling inactive reservists. One psychiatrist was just called up after retiring from 40 yrs of service.

Bush has turned us into a paper tiger. And maybe that's just what is needed to return us to a democracy.
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iconoclastic cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-19-04 06:18 PM
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10. Endless Blitzkrieg
An air war of biblical proportions. Hey, his pals paid good money for all those nukes, and they're just sitting around collecting dust!
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Moonbeam_Starlight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-19-04 06:22 PM
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15. (Bubba voice): Yeah we got all them
bombs and shit jus settin around all over the damn place and damn I mean we paid for that shit might as well use it to blow us up some Eye-Rahn-ees or some shit like that. Hell.
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lancdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-19-04 06:19 PM
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12. That's what I was going to say
I think this is a distraction meant to divert voters' attentions away from Bush's failures.
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-19-04 07:04 PM
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27. You are applying logic to an illogical situation. These are mad men.
They could call on me and you next.
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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-19-04 06:14 PM
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5. yeah, they'll have all our national guard troops in the ME
and when the sleeping giant finally wakes up; we'll be facing 100,000 mercenaries who won't hesitate to shoot Americans trying to take back their own country.
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htuttle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-19-04 06:17 PM
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8. Who's going to pay all those mercenaries?
Do you think the Wheels of Industry and Commerce will continue to turn in a situation like that?

I don't.



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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-19-04 06:55 PM
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22. who do you think are paying them now?
Mercenaries are paid by governments/tax payer dollars and corporations.
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htuttle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-19-04 07:00 PM
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25. The only reason those dollars are worth anything...
... is that the US has a functioning economy, such that it is. The Treasury is still able to sell debt, so the dollar still has value.

If dollars meant 'gold', they might retain some worth if the gears stop turning for awhile. But they don't. They mean 'IOU', and the dollar would crash so bad in a situation like that that they'd probably have to try to acquire another currency to pay any corporate mercenaries with.
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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-19-04 07:05 PM
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30. where have you been?
corporations have slowly been converting to Euros for the last two yrs..And fwiw, they don't care if the dollar crashes. The only ones that will be affected will be US citizens..and the dissidents will be headed to incarceration camps..
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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-19-04 06:57 PM
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23. three won't be any interference of commerce..
enough work is outsourced to other countries and exports are doing just fine..
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laruemtt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-19-04 06:18 PM
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11. okey dokey, so
it's a given that bushco, tangled all up in its values as it is, couldn't care less about the immorality of what they're preparing to do. but in pure logistics, how in the name of all that's sane (not a whole lot anymore) do they intend to finance it and get troops to fight it? i'm sick. i can't go through another war. just can't do it.
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Mr_Spock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-19-04 06:20 PM
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13. Cool - another towel head extravaganza! Navy Seals Rock!!!
Time to start us a killin - YEEEEE HAWWWW!!
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Mika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-19-04 06:22 PM
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14. With peak oil about now, all the more reason for Iran to have nuke power
Oil will be an even greater commodity. What other export does Iran have? Why should Iran burn their oil electricity, when nuke power is possible for them?
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Moonbeam_Starlight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-19-04 06:23 PM
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17. This just in, the Iranian government is reporting
that they strongly believe the US government has a nuclear weapons program!!!!

Film at 11.
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cthrumatrix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-19-04 06:29 PM
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20. PNAC has confirmed Iran ....all systems are go!
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-19-04 06:27 PM
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19. It's always been in the plans and then Syria will be next.
Read up on your PNAC information.
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soggy Donating Member (222 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-19-04 06:59 PM
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24. doesn't france have a nuclear program too?
can't we kill the frenchies before the syrians?
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Moonbeam_Starlight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-19-04 07:06 PM
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31. Yeah come ON people
like Clita said, READ up on your PNAC shit.

Geez.

;-)
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-19-04 07:01 PM
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26. This could be the 'surprise' for November we've been looking for.
This was posted earlier, but it could be very true.
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-19-04 07:05 PM
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28. Bush thinks Americans are just as stupid as they are
After all of the lies and outrages over the past 4 years (actually far longer than that) it's pretty clear that the majority in this country are not only uninformed but easily swayed.

Part of me thinks we deserve exactly what we're getting.
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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-19-04 07:19 PM
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32. What "we" deserve?
No!!!!

Al Gore won the popular vote. This dumbass in the WH is not a legit Pres. I voted for Al Gore and so did millions of others. We don't deserve what is happening.
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demwing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-19-04 07:22 PM
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33. Didn't we all know Iran or Syria would be next?
Edited on Mon Jul-19-04 07:22 PM by demwing2
Wasn't that detailed long ago by the PNAC?

Step by step, they push forward an agenda without a mandate, building an Empire without the consent (or even the knowledge) of the democratically governed.

As comes the Empire, comes the Emperor.
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