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jedicord Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-19-04 02:24 PM
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Finally saw F 911 yesterday...
Just had to put in my two cents, the movie finally opened up here where I live. Surprised at how packed the theater was, and the types of people there. Yes, we all applauded at the end of the film.

What an emotional film for me! I already knew everything in the film, except for the lack of senators' signatures, but the humanizing of events really brought everything home. I cried the entire time (unless I was laughing). I was shaking when we left.

The most telling part, though, was my husband, the Desert Storm Marine. He was quiet all the way home. We went into the backyard and sat for a while. Finally, I told him that the movie was preaching to the choir for me, that I couldn't believe I'm still affected. I could hardly talk. I asked why he wouldn't even discuss it. His response?

"Because I'm so angry! I wanted to yell at the screen throughout the movie. I hate what they're doing to the boys over there and the lies they are telling us. It will take some time for me to release the anger, so I have to hold it inside."

My husband, the guy who just wants to earn a paycheck and be left alone, who will vote for Kerry to make me happy, has found his own purpose.

Everyone should see this movie. Everyone. Unfortunately, the Repubs I've talked to simply refuse to.
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-19-04 02:28 PM
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1. We need more Vets for Peace. Have you hooked him up
with any groups of that nature?
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jedicord Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-19-04 02:34 PM
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4. Could you send me some info on that?
Trust me, they'll have a new "recruit".

And don't get him started on the "benefits" offered after service - college tuition, VA benefits, etc. Or how they treated him after he was discharged after fighting in Desert Storm. Basically let him off the plane and said "you're on your own".

He got into the service right after high school at 18. Four years of having room/board paid, with some extra spending money. Then expect him to know what to do with himself on his own. Or even how to find a job.

OK, now I'm getting started!
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-19-04 02:41 PM
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6. Here you go :^)
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jedicord Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-19-04 02:45 PM
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7. Thank you!
Printed and bookmarked!
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-19-04 02:49 PM
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8. Any time!
:hi:
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-19-04 03:03 PM
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10. Here's something else he might want to check out
http://www.veteransforcommonsense.org /

Our Mission:
Veterans for Common Sense seeks to inject the element of Common Sense into debates over war and national security. In an age when the majority of public servants have never served in uniform, the perspective of war veterans must play a key role in the public debate over national security issues in order to preserve the liberty veterans have fought and died preserving.

:headbang:
rocknation
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jedicord Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-19-04 03:13 PM
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12. Y'all are GREAT!
Thanks, printed & bookmarked!

I'll let y'all know if/how much he gets involved. Let's hope!
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Butterflies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-19-04 02:33 PM
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2. I was really emotional during the movie too
even though I already knew almost all of it. Just seeing it all put together, and knowing that a lot more people were finally learning those things really shook me. I'll have to see it again because I know I'll catch more details the second time around.
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jedicord Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-19-04 03:22 PM
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16. I wasn't sure what I would be seeing...
I truly didn't believe it would shake me up so bad. I guess I thought I'd have a "Hell yeah! That's the truth! Told you so!" feeling.

Instead, great sadness, anger, hope, the whole emotional gamut.
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-19-04 02:34 PM
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3. It must have unearthed a lot of deeply buried memories.
I just hope your husband doesn't have re-enlist under this Individual Ready Rerserve thing the Bush regime has come up with. Here is a DU thread about a 67-year old retired military psychiatrist who's been told to report for a phsyical!

:headbang:
rocknation
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jedicord Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-19-04 02:39 PM
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5. Yes, I believe it did.
You can always tell whether or not someone really saw combat.

The one's who talk about their glory days most likely didn't.

The one's who saw it, really don't want to talk about it, are not necessarily proud of it. He saw some horrors over there, and I doubt, in the 13 years I've known him, that I've heard them all.

Retired for 7 years and he's getting called up? That freaks me out. I assured him with the recall thing came around last time he wouldn't be called back up. Methinks I won't mention that one...

The soldier in F 911 who is refusing to go back to Iraq? He really made an impression on my husband. He knew exactly where he was coming from.
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Spangle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-19-04 03:02 PM
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9. Same here
My hubby isn't ex-military and has heard me speak on these issues alot. But he wasn't "hot" over any of it or anything.

I also felt the same as you did when i seen the movie. It was stuff I all ready knew. Different seeing it on screen.

A couple days after seeing the Movie, my Hubby who registered independent several years ago and isn't involved in politics one bit, told me that he ordered something on the web. After asking.. ok, begging to be told what it was.. it was Kerry buttens. He had went to a web site about F9/11 and ended up donating to Kerry. HIS FIRST POLITICAL DONATION EVER!

He was a Kerry voter before the seeing the Movie. But he didn't hotly discuss it with those he worked with or anything like that. I think things are alot different now.
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devinsgram Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-19-04 03:08 PM
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11. Of course they don't want to see it.
The truth hurts and they can't stand seeing it.
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jedicord Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-19-04 03:17 PM
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14. Eyes Wide Shut
One guy here told me that the movie was full of lies. Of course, I asked if he had seen it, he said he hadn't but a friend had. His friend said it was all propaganda. So I quoted my husband when I asked him yesterday if he thought it was propaganda.

"It was full of facts. Propaganda is when you lie and scare people to go to a war that shouldn't be fought."

Another hubby nugget: "Our boys shouldn't be there - we need to send Bush so he can fulfill his tour of duty."

HIS eyes are now EYES WIDE OPEN!
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wryter2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-19-04 03:13 PM
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13. That's great
Give your hubby a big hug and a kiss and encourage him to talk when he can. We need more folks like him!
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jedicord Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-19-04 03:20 PM
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15. I sure will!
And I truly appreciate your good thoughts. :pals: It hurts for me to know how much he still hurts.

War is Hell. :cry:
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ronnykmarshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-19-04 03:35 PM
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17. You guys ROCK!
I was very moved to read about your husband's reaction to the film.

We need more folks like you.
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