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LeftHander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-19-04 01:16 PM
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If I was Republican....
I would be quite upset at the GOP stategy for re-electing Bush.

Negative mis-leading ads. No substance. No real issues. Just attack and fear mongering.


THere is not a single "feel-good" ad coming out of the millions of dollars dumb wingnuts donated to Bush. Not even any policy....lets do this...never have attack ads come so early in a campaign that I can recall.

There was one feel good ad a few months ago but it was the one that had the images of 911. They must of scrapped millions of dollars of production....

Instead it is attack the voting record without informing anyone about the amendments the GOP put in the bills that forced DEMS to vote them down.

I can't see people taking to Bush's message at all....he doesn't have one!
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AlinPA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-19-04 01:21 PM
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1. I've posted here before about how PA rejected the all-negative
candidates; for governor(Casey, a Democrat in the primary); Fisher (R) who ran against Rendell after Rendell beat Casey; and about 4 years ago a congressman named Turzai (R) who ran against Ron Klink.
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AlinPA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-19-04 01:21 PM
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2. I've posted here before about how PA rejected the all-negative
candidates; for governor(Casey, a Democrat in the primary); Fisher (R) who ran against Rendell after Rendell beat Casey; and about 4 years ago a congressman named Turzai (R) who ran against Ron Klink.
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AlinPA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-19-04 01:38 PM
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4. Sorry for the duplication.
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Snoggera Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-19-04 01:28 PM
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3. They play the game this way
1) Negative attacks in ads with distorted/lying information.
2) Brain dead robots repeat talking points to people in the news until the words are bleeding out of people's ears.
3) During debate, present self as human. The opponent is supposed to be on the defensive now.
4) Disrupt the election in any way possible in contested areas.
5) Take office and spit on the nation.

Many people seem to enjoy this tactic, but I think Kerry has their number. The debates are going to have great entertainment value so long as * doesn't have a wire in his ear.
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-19-04 01:40 PM
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5. He will have a wire for sure. Anyone here got a jammer?
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wadestock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-19-04 01:57 PM
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6. Tune in Franken....
He's been really good about taking the commercials and debunking them....many of the new ones are outright lies and/or clear attempts to strategically misrepresent the facts.

But here's the big themes to watch...

1. The world's a safer place without Saddam...
No...actually we've just raised the potential for a new "cold war" in the middle east by a factor of 1000....check the post "is the world a safer place?" IRAN will now proceed full speed with a plan to arm a nuclear capability and make sure that they are "invasion proof". This then sets up the horrible show down between Israel and Iran....which we'll be in the middle of and then perhaps go to far in terms of trying to disarm Iran.

2. It's better we're fighting terrorism OVER THERE...than fighting it on our shores HERE.
This is a curious catch all that seems to resonate with many people. I've never really been able to figure out why since it's so blatantly illogical to me. It is the epitome of not understanding what the real terrorist threat is in the first place. Obviously all we've created in Iraq is another "Israel situation" and breeding ground for future terrorism. The issue of homeland security and preventing the REAL threat of a few dozen people doing damage HERE is an entirely different scenario.

Also note that #2 is in direct in logical violation of #1 in terms of the fact that an ONGOING (and relentless) WAR in the middle east is in no way an inherently SAFER situation than if there was no war!!
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LeftHander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-19-04 02:13 PM
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7. I remember that "fight them over there"
...thought from sometime ago.

The thinking was to have a purpetual war with the idea that all the terrorists would converge on Iraq to fight Americans. Hence "Bring them on" by Bush.

However now that Iraq has been handed over, U.S. troops have become collateral damage as insurgents attack Iraqi security forces. It seems that the U.S. is now not the main target of attack. THough forces are in as much if not more danger than before as Iraqi security and U.S. forces are pretty much intertwined.

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