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LittleApple81 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-19-04 09:07 AM
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Arnold REFUSES to apologize for "girlie men" remark.
Calif. Gov. not sorry for girlie men remark
Democrats blast Schwarzenegger for mocking lawmakersThe Associated Press
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The governor lifted the term from a long-running Saturday Night Live skit in which two pompous, Schwarzenegger-worshipping weightlifters repeatedly use it to mock those who dont meet their standards of physical perfection.

Democrats said Schwarzeneggers remarks were insulting to women and gays and distracted from budget negotiations. State Sen. Sheila Kuehl said the governor had resorted to blatant homophobia. It uses an image that is associated with gay men in an insulting way, and it was supposed to be an insult. Thats very troubling that he would use such a homophobic way of trying to put down legislative leadership, said Kuehl, one of five members of the Legislatures five-member Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual and Transgender Caucus.

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At a rally Sunday in Stockton, the governor gave a speech almost identical to the one he delivered in Ontario but without the girlie men remark. Spokesman Rob Stutzman said the line was dropped because Schwarzenegger had already sent the message he wanted to send, not because he regretted his remarks.

Its a forceful way of making the point to regular Californians that legislators are wimps when they let special interests push them around, Stutzman said. If they complain too much about this, I guess theyre making the governors point.

My comment: when repugs complain about "hatefests" they are manly; if democrats complain they are "girlie"...

more at link:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/5460326?GT1=4244


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the Kelly Gang Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-19-04 09:08 AM
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1. Arnie's just a big klutz
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DemBones DemBones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-19-04 09:09 AM
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2. A big dummkopf. n/t
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-19-04 09:11 AM
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3. He used a phrase from a parody of HIM?
I heard about this this weekend and couldn't believe that he would use a phrase from an SNL skit (to start with) and especially one that really is making fun of him.

Geez!
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LizW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-19-04 09:22 AM
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8. Shhh. He probably doesn't understand
that the skit was making fun of him. ;)
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porphyrian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-19-04 09:11 AM
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4. Arnold Did Dana Doing Arnold
No wonder it was received poorly.
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Toucano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-19-04 09:46 AM
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12. What I saw on CNN looked like it was received enthusiastically.
That made it all the more upsetting.

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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-19-04 09:12 AM
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5. Is Riordan still in charge of CA's education system?
Is Enron still getting away with screwing the consumers of CA? Has anyone investigated the Governator's meeting with Enron officials just prior to the crisis?

How much will Kollifohnians put up with from this moran before tossing him out on his a$$?
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-19-04 09:14 AM
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6. Sadly, I think quite a few...
n/t
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-19-04 09:40 AM
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11. sigh
ain't it the truth.
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-19-04 09:16 AM
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7. What a great TV ad !
for the Repubs... :)
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-19-04 09:33 AM
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9. He won't.. He's a bully-man
It IS odd though, coming from a man who is known to wear tons of makeup, is a clothes-horse, and is rumored to have had many "nips and tucks"...( all things that modern society attaches to the female gender)

Not that there is anything bad about any of those things, but for someone who pretends to be such a manly-man, to be critical "in that sense", strikes me as funny..

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Raster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-19-04 09:39 AM
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10. From the "A-List" on Ahhh-nuld:
Schwarzenegger, Arnold. Unpleasant, vain conservative. Has a Nazi father. Apologist for Kurt Waldheim. Steroid use early in his weightlifting career, as well as nude pictures (and possibly more, as a kept man) done for gay men. Troubled marriage to Maria Shriver. Customer with Heidi Fleiss. Given to groping women--almost pathologically so. Engaged in orgies and other youthful hijinks when he was a competitive weightlifter. Pot user in his youth. I've heard a few stories about him being rude to or simply blowing off fans. Linked to Vanessa Williams.

Girlie Man??? Really? And you would know, Austrian Rent-boy. That means prostitute Arnie, and from the looks of who your schilling for now, it still fits.
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bo44 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-19-04 09:53 AM
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13. The ho stroll in Stockton
http://www.recordnet.com/daily/news/articles/071904-gn-...

Ahhnold can come to Stockton because it is the Braindead Freeper capital of California.

The nimrod who markets W ketchup is from Lodi just north of Stockton. Bush territory. Makes me sick. http://www.recordnet.com/daily/news/articles/071904-gn-...
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robertarctor Donating Member (831 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-19-04 10:32 AM
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17. Beg to differ
Stockton may be home to uber-Republican contributor/San Diego Chargers owner Alex Spanos, but it is hardly the center of California "freeper trash," as you put it. Stockton is 90 miles east of San Francisco, and the city is, ethnically, one of the most diverse in California. Politically, it's got as many liberals as it has right wingers. Now, Lodi, 10 miles north, is an old German settlement with a long-active John Birch Society, and Tracy, 20 miles southwest, is where they filmed the 1970s documentary California Reich. But as the Bay Area spreads out eastward, San Joaquin County is changing, too.

Now, Fresno is freeper country. Hell, Free Republic is based there.

Gotta stand up for Stockton, though. I grew up there.
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bo44 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-19-04 10:53 AM
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19. I still live in Stockton. Franklin Class of 78
Edited on Mon Jul-19-04 10:56 AM by bo44
I gotta read the rag and all the responses to my letters the last two years and endure being accused of treason and being a traitor for not supporting the troops. Many of these same ethnically diverse individuals you speak of vote Repuke because Uncle A.G. says so. We have a Hispanic Mayor who is a fucking Repuke. The fucking Rethugs took over SUSD and named a school after bunnypants as a result of holding the naming of a new school after Cezar Chavez hostage. This town is drowning in Neo Rethuglicans. Middle class folks are lining up for the kool aid daily. Many of them are ethnic. There is virtually no voice for liberals and progressives in Stockton.

Come on back and check the lines for the kool aid.
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nolabels Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-19-04 09:55 AM
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14. He is just jealous of all the people who make good "girlie men"

http://members.ozemail.com.au/~peterv/bb /

It's his own fault, if he wouldn't of swallowed all them roids, he too might of been a good "girlie men"
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-19-04 09:56 AM
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15. So, if the dem legislators, call him the "Nazi-descended Bully-man",
it would be Okee-dokie with Ahhhhnold???? It would be a true fact :)
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Ravenseye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-19-04 10:15 AM
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16. Getting Upset About The Wrong Thing
Who cares if he called people girlie men. He was trying to be funny. Sometimes it works sometimes it doesn't. If the crowd laughed it worked. Big deal. People getting all upset and calling him homophobic (which he may be) misses the entire point and are glossing over what they should be getting angry about..

--snip from AP--
Schwarzenegger dished out the insult at a rally Saturday as he claimed Democrats were delaying the budget by catering to special interests.

"If they don't have the guts to come up here in front of you and say, 'I don't want to represent you, I want to represent those special interests, the unions, the trial lawyers ... if they don't have the guts, I call them girlie men," Schwarzenegger said to the cheering crowd at a mall food court in Ontario.
--end snip--

The response should be something about how the republicans and conservatives are the ones more in bed with the special interests. Funny how a large number of people are in unions but to represent unions is not to represent people.

Anyway my point is getting upset about a bad joke makes liberals look silly.

"Liberals murder people in secret, steal from your homes, vandalize your neighborhoods, and try and ruin your lives. They don't have the guts to admit it, because they're girlie men."

The liberal response?

"It upsets me that he uses the image of a gay man in an insulting way."

wrong approach.
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Chelsea Patriot Donating Member (603 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-19-04 10:32 AM
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18. That Tiny-Dicked Nazi....

...dares to call any other man a "Girlie Man"?

Who hasn't seen those sad photos?

Female-To -Male Trannies are more well-hung then Schwarzenegger.
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