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gatorboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-19-04 01:33 AM
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The Neo-Cons are simply desperate
I can't think of any other reason why they are making issues of such non issue material:

From Texas Senator John Cornyn's Box Turtle fetish, to the Whoopigate, to the Drudge reports issue on Kerry's wrinkles (or no wrinkles...Ooooo!!), it's easy to see that they have no real issue to stand on. They're running scared!
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-19-04 01:45 AM
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1. They are just throwing a lot of mylarized chaff in the air, so to speak.
Edited on Mon Jul-19-04 01:47 AM by tom_paine
http://www.geocities.com/itm4usg/countermeasures.html

Confusion. Obfuscation. Red Herrings. Muddying the waters. Orwellian twisting of language.

These are the things the Modern Amerikan Bushevik Totalitarian desires.

They are throwing a metaphorical cloud of ink in the water.
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Cronus Protagonist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-19-04 01:46 AM
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3. Dead right. And the resulting FOG is more easily spun
Choose Kerry Lose Bush - FUCK BUSH - Drop Bush Not Bombs!
http://brainbuttons.com/home.asp?stashid=13
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punpirate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-19-04 01:45 AM
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2. Not desperation...
... but, rather, intention. Gore lost, in part, because he wore "eath-toned" clothes, and lied about his accomplishments. Same ol', same ol', right out of the Atwater/Rove playbook. Remember the intern flap early in the year? Same, same. It will be this way until November.

Meanwhile, the Bushies are committing felonies left and right.
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unblock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-19-04 01:50 AM
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4. don't misunderestimate them
when the media is on your side, you don't need issues to win. you only need image.

"meaningless" tripe like wrinkles and whoopigate chips away at image.

and baseless assertions that shrub is a strong leader and good for keeping america safe works to build his image too, no matter how idiotic it is.

come november, people may not even remember WHY, but they just have this FEELING that bush is a stand up guy and good for america, and kerry is hard to pin down on an issue and seems out of touch or whatever.

they might like kerry's POLICIES better, but nobody (i.e., the media) has been talking much about them, so people think that doesn't matter, but character (image) does.

take what they're doing SERIOUSLY and fight back on THEIR turf.
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countmyvote4real Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-19-04 02:06 AM
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8. You are damn right.
We have to be active and vocal daily. Not just here in the comfort of DU, but everywhere we can and even places where we can't be. Send email of your outrage to the media, congress, etc. Write letters to your newspaper (for those that still get it that way.)

Boycott corporations that profit from the Iraq war or seek to silence free speech.

P.S. FBI Carnovore, I don't have any bombs or know of anybody with bombs. Please don't sodomize me in error.
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-19-04 01:55 AM
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5. History is replete with examples of Arrogant Leadership making blunders
to the point of exhaustion......

Flummoxed, they stumble on...not knowing up from down, they die...
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JohnnyRingo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-19-04 01:55 AM
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6. I got into a short discussion at a car show today...
This guy made the comment: "Kerry is too liberal"
I asked: "What has he done that's so liberal"

....several seconds of blank look, then he moved on to the "87billion vote"

Hahahaha...This guy heard Hannity's repetitious talkin points, but he did't know any details.

After I explained the 87B vote to him, he started on Heinz Catsup...this went on until I got tired of it.

No wonder they're concerned about Kerry's wrinkles.
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Spinzonner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-19-04 01:57 AM
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7. You are confusing the Neocons who dominate Bush* foreign policy

with the political folks who control the election and Republican politics - as embodied and coming to a nexus at Karl Rove.
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Zorra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-19-04 02:40 AM
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9. The problem is, many Republicans are not informed enough
to see through the BS. Hopefully, some of them can fight their way through this smokescreen of non-issues, and come to the decision that Bu$h really does not have their best interests, or the best interests of our country, in mind in his policies.

I really wish Republicans would join us in our fight to stop Bu$h totalitarianism.

Democrats have a big tent, we are genuine patriots that desire a government that is based on fact, truth, and individual freedom, and the bottom line is: we want what is best for the majority of Americans, whether they are middle class, rich, or underpriveleged.
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radfringe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-19-04 03:34 AM
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10. there is no record to run on
hence the kerry-bashing ads, muddy the waters with useless discussion, and divert attention from real issues
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-19-04 03:55 AM
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11. Not desparate, but using the tools and tactics available to them.
They set up the RW Media Monster years ago just for this purpose. They PLANNED for this. What worries me is plan B... which is already in the works.
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