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Scairp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-11-04 04:26 PM
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From 2 yrs. ago, re: Martial Law
This is WAAAAYYY scarier than postponed elections.


Foundations are in place for martial law in the US

Recent pronouncements from the Bush Administration and national security initiatives put in place in the Reagan era could see internment camps and martial law in the United States.

When president Ronald Reagan was considering invading Nicaragua he issued a series of executive orders that provided the Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA) with broad powers in the event of a "crisis" such as "violent and widespread internal dissent or national opposition against a US military invasion abroad". They were never used.
<snip>

They included executive orders providing for suspension of the constitution, the imposition of martial law, internment camps, and the turning over of government to the president and FEMA.

A Miami Herald article on July 5, 1987, reported that the former FEMA director Louis Guiffrida's deputy, John Brinkerhoff, handled the martial law portion of the planning. The plan was said to be similar to one Mr Giuffrida had developed earlier to combat "a national uprising by black militants". It provided for the detention "of at least 21million American Negroes"' in "assembly centres or relocation camps".

Today Mr Brinkerhoff is with the highly influential Anser Institute for Homeland Security. Following a request by the Pentagon in January that the US military be allowed the option of deploying troops on American streets, the institute in February published a paper by Mr Brinkerhoff arguing the legality of this.


http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2002/07/27/1027497418339.html?oneclick=true

http://members.tripod.com/~Sidlinger/ml.html

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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-11-04 04:28 PM
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1. Yep.
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theivoryqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-11-04 04:30 PM
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2. yep. they had that in the X-Files movie.
the Fema scenario.
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TrustingDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-11-04 04:31 PM
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3. when it all comes down it will be like...
a thief in the night. bam!

This has been planned by the PNACers and their ancestors for decades now.
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Scairp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-11-04 04:36 PM
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4. Please keep kicked
And why, pray tell, can you not nominate your own topic? What a gip.
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theivoryqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-11-04 04:41 PM
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5. okay
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Scairp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-11-04 04:59 PM
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6. Someone please
Nominate my topic. Although this is two years old, I had never seen or heard of this plan before. I doubt most Americans have either. God knows the mainstream media wouldn't breath a word of it.
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Kenergy Donating Member (834 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-11-04 05:09 PM
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7. Didn't Ted Koppel
recently predict that martial law would be imposed before
November?
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hang a left Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-11-04 05:17 PM
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8. This article is worth a click, folks.
http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2002/07/27/1027497418339.html?oneclick=true


and a little more

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He alleged that the Posse Comitatus Act of 1878, which has long been accepted as prohibiting such deployments, had simply been misunderstood and misapplied.

The preface to the article also provided the revelation that the national plan he had worked on, under Mr Giuffrida, was "approved by Reagan, and actions were taken to implement it".

By April, the US military had created a Northern Command to aid Homeland defence. Reuters reported that the command is "mainly expected to play a supporting role to local authorities".

However, Mr Ridge, the Director of Homeland Security, has just advocated a review of US law regarding the use of the military for law enforcement duties.



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Zorra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-11-04 05:25 PM
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9. Thank you for posting this. They are planning it. Believe it.
Do an analysis of everything Bush, the neocons have done since stealing the election. Right down to the recent republican holding over of a Congressional vote to insure that part of the Patriot was not repealed.

Remember the Democrats chanting, "Shame, shame, shame"? They have no shame, and no morals.

Their goal is a "constitutional dictatorship", or worse, in the US.
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robertpaulsen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-11-04 06:24 PM
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10. Kicked, bookmarked, and nominated!
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robertpaulsen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-11-04 08:12 PM
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11. Enforcement of martial law: 600,000+ MERCENARIES!
I googled military contracting + America. I came across this site:

http://www.disinfopedia.org/wiki.phtml?title=PMC

Private Military Corporations are also referred to as Privatized Military Firms (PMF)s, ... among other things, and could be considered an alternative to the Draft.

According to ICIJ, since 1994, the U.S. Defense Department has entered into 3,061 contracts valued at more than $300 billion with 12 of the 24 U.S.-based PMCs. More than 2,700 of those contracts were held by just two companies: Kellogg Brown and Root (KBR), a subsidiary of Vice President Dick Cheney's former employer, Halliburton Company, and Virginia-based management and technology consulting firm, Booz Allen Hamilton. The ICIJ report could not determine what percentage of these contracts was for training, security or logistical services because of the breadth of the services offered by the larger companies and the paucity of information provided by the Pentagon.<2>

The Pentagon does not even know how many contractors it uses. According to U.S. News and World Report, a preliminary report to Congress in April 2002 guessed that the Army contracted out the equivalent of between 124,000 and 605,000 persons in 2001. It is also hard to estimate how many people are working for PMCs because many of them are freelance contractors who may work for more than one of the PMCs. Often, it's hard to tell where the U.S. Army ends and a private company begins, as certain training programs run by PMCs allow retired military personnel to put their uniforms back on. One of the best known, privately held MPRI, based in Alexandria, Virginia, with over 700 full-time employees boasts of having "more generals per square foot than in the Pentagon."<3>



Anyone know anything about this site? 600,000+ seems like the tip of the iceberg. This site has lots of links and I'll keep posting when I find out more info.
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Citizen Daryl Donating Member (693 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-11-04 08:22 PM
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12. They wouldn't need to turn our own troops against us ...
... if they had an "army" of commercial mercenaries.
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mainer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-11-04 08:35 PM
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13. See you all in the internment camps.
At least we'll all be with our fellow latte-drinking, volvo-driving, Chardonnay swilling comrades.
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