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JanMichael Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-30-04 08:06 PM
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Unless you're "all mouth & no trousers" try Democracy South & FairData!
Edited on Wed Jun-30-04 08:12 PM by JanMichael
Seriously, the sides/traps are set, the electronic dice are loaded, so the best we can do is flood the polls with those that despise our Kleptocratic Generallisimmo el Busho!

Democracy South provides mapping of Under-Represented, Infrequent or Unregistered Voters for voter registration or GOTV programs organized by 501, C, 3s!

Fairdata2000 offers EASY TO USE Community-based Mapping and Data Solutions for Education, Environment, Housing, and Poverty-related Issues!

At your finger tips you can go to a :State] and locate where the unregistered voters are by looking at easy to create maps. (I tried a link and it got scrambled...)


The TECHNOLOGY IS HERE! Use it. The Repukes use GIS to single out high income (By Tax Value) homes and send them el Busho solicitations. It's an expensive proposition BUT the odds are good apparently...We need to WALK the areas, we don't have the CASH to mail everyone! and register those who are getting FUCKED by neo-conservative (Read nasty assed agreements like the NAFTA, WTO and FTAA) crap so they can rise UP, VOTE, and take control of their lives!

The tools are there, I mean HERE, use them PLEASE!!!!

For those who are already out there registering people please consider using GIS technology to help focus your awesome efforts, PM me if you need some guidance.

Thanks!
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NMDemDist2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-30-04 08:08 PM
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1. no AZ on either site? eom
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JanMichael Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-30-04 08:12 PM
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2. Beats me why AZ isn't there...
My bad. But if you REALLY want to get this type of info I'll help.
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NMDemDist2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-30-04 10:01 PM
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3. odd huh? we are a serious swing state, but I get voter rolls from
the Party and i'm sure ACT has that info. don't stress :)
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fairplan Donating Member (6 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-30-04 10:53 PM
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4. Arizona and FairVote2020.com
Last I heard ACT does not have registered voter files for non-target states. Moreover, they show no interest in sharing the files they do have.

The only reason that Arizona is not on the www.fairvote2020.com
site is that I have not been able to find a statewide precinct database with matching political data. Send the Arizona precinct database to me and/or an electronic registered voter file and I'll have an interactive map and Adobe maps posted for Arizona pronto.

You have way too much confidence in the Democratic leadership. From everything I can ascertain, progressive GOTV groups like ACT, Project Vote, etc are completely clueless when it comes to using GIS technology.

I just put a post on the ACT blog tonight begging for Pennsylvania and West Virginia...it will be completely ignored, just as my request from two months ago was ignored.

http://tinyurl.com/2lwwo


Bill Cooper
[email protected]
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fairplan Donating Member (6 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-30-04 10:58 PM
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5. Arizona is a target state
Edited on Wed Jun-30-04 10:58 PM by fairplan
Sorry, I see that Arizona is a target state. So ACT does have the electronic registered voter file. I doubt that they have a geographic boundary file showing precincts because, like I say, they are clueless when it comes to GIS -- at least at the national level. I have provided some assistance to local ACT people in Ohio and Florida.
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NMDemDist2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-01-04 08:50 AM
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10. data files? would that be from the SOS of AZ?
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fairplan Donating Member (6 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-01-04 12:53 PM
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11. SOS
Well, if this were at the precinct level and in something other than Adobe format that info would work just fine -- provided (and this is a big PROVIDED), I had a statewide geographic boundary file matching the data. I suspect some Arizona politicos would have just such a geographic database given all the redistricting wars. If you can get hold of something, send it along and I'll get a map up.

The alternative (and maybe a better one) would be to build everything based on a geocoded registered voter file, like I did in Ohio, where there is no publicly available statewide geographic precinct database.

http://www.fairdata2000.com/OhioAccess/index.html

Bill

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JanMichael Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-01-04 07:27 PM
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12. Welcome to DU!
I was a little surprised to see someone actually involved with the sites show up.

I've really enjoyed the registered voter maps. BTW I'm a intermediate GIS type myself, it's a small part of my job but I love it. Frankly I'm shocked by the lack of interest in such powerful technology by many Dem groups. The damned RepubliCONs are all over GIS however and will likely increase their investmnets...
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fairplan Donating Member (6 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-01-04 09:28 PM
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13. Welcome
Oh, I just noticed that someone had hit the site coming from this thread and was curious....I think I will always be an intermediate, if that. It's hard to keep up.

I do think, contrary to my rant last night, that ACT, etc. have to be using GIS in some fashion. When I said "clueless", I probably should have said "clueless when it comes to making GIS technology available to the grassroots."

You are exactly right about the Republicans and GIS, but maybe the Dems have the edge on the Palm Pilot approach.

Here is an example of Republicans busy geocoding voters in Missouri last summer.

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Maptitude/message/1597

Let me know about the "scrambled link" and maybe I can fix it.

Bill


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drthais Donating Member (771 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-30-04 11:06 PM
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6. THANKS!
I went ot he DemocracySouth site
and emailed the Baton Rouge affiliate


I appreciate this so much
talk about an uninformed public!
but they WANT to know

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fairplan Donating Member (6 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-30-04 11:16 PM
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7. Louisiana
Well, the registered voter file for Louisiana costs a mere $5,000.

http://congress.techpolitics.org/voterrollcost.php

If there is a specific Parish in Louisiana you are interested in, I could probably post an interactive map with precinct-level info on registered voters by race. I do a fair amount of local-level redistricting work for civil rights groups in Louisiana.

If it is St. Landry Parish, I could have it up in an hour or so.

Bill Cooper
[email protected]


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fairplan Donating Member (6 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-01-04 12:34 AM
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9. Louisiana interactive map
I just looked at the datasets I have for Louisiana. I probably have enough to cobble together a statewide interactive map showing African American turnout in 2000 and Bush-Gore by precinct.

There will be a few blank spots in the map where data is missing or inaccurate, but Louisiana really isn't any worse than some of the other states I've got up there.

I'll post something here in a couple of days when I get it up and running.

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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-30-04 11:31 PM
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8. Thanks. This could be very useful. I've bookmarked it so I can get into
it later. Going to be walking the streets in another month. Need all the help we can get.
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