"Secret Message to NYC Protestors"

[disinfo_guy]

Something regarding the GOP Convention protests in NYC. I'm just passing this along, certainly not recommending it ... whatever it may actually be...

http://newswire.indymedia.org/en/newswire/2004/06/804582.shtml

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Uh, Breaker One-Nine, this here's the Rubber Duck
You got a copy on me Pig-Pen? C'mon

Uh, yeah 10-4 Pig Pen, fer sure, fer sure
By golly it's clean clear to Flag-Town, C'mon

Uh, yeah, that's a big 10-4 Pig-Pen,
Yeah, we definitely got us the front door good buddy,
Mercy sakes alive, looks like we got us a convoy

Was the dark of the moon, on the sixth of June
In a Kenworth, pullin' logs
Cabover Pete with a reefer on
And a Jimmy haulin' hogs
We 'as headin' fer bear on I-One-Oh
'Bout a mile outta Shaky-Town
I sez Pig-Pen, this here's the Rubber Duck
An' I'm about to put the hammer on down

Cause we gotta little ol' convoy, rockin' through the night
Yeah we gotta little ol' convoy, ain't she a beautiful sight?
Come on an' join our convoy, ain't nothin' gonna git in our way
We're gonna roll this truckin' convoy, cross the USA
Convoy... Convoy...

Uh, breaker Pig-Pen, this here's The Duck
Uh, you wanna back off them hogs
10-4, 'bout five mile or so, 10-roger
Them hogs is gittin' in-tense up here

By the time we got into Tulsa-Town
We had eighty-five trucks in all
But they's a road block up on the clover leaf
An' them bears 'as wall to wall
Yeah them smokies 'as thick as bugs on a bumper
They even had a bear-in-the-air
I sez callin' all trucks, this here's The Duck
We about to go a huntin' bear

Cause we gotta great big convoy, rockin' through the night
Yeah we gotta great big convoy, ain't she a beautiful sight?
Come on an' join our convoy, ain't nothin' gonna git in our way
We're gonna roll this truckin' convoy, cross the USA
Convoy... Convoy...

Uh, you wanna give me a 10-9 on that Pig-Pen?
Uh, negatory Pig-Pen, yer still too close
Yeah, them hogs is startin' close up my sinuses
Mercy sakes, you better back off another ten

Well we rolled up interstate fourty-four
Like a rocket sled on rails
We tore up all a our swindle sheets
An' left 'em settin' on the scales
By the time we hit that Chi-Town
Them bears was a gittin' smart
They'd brought up some reinforcements
From the Illinois National Guard
There 'as armored cars, and tanks, and Jeeps
An' rigs of every size
Yeah them chicken coops 'as full a bears
An' choppers filled the skies
Well we shot the line, an' we went for broke
With a thousand screamin' trucks
And eleven long-haired friends of Jesus
In a chartreusse microbus

Hey Sod Buster, listen
You wanna put that microbus in behind the suicide jockey?
Yeah, he's haulin dynamite
He needs all the help he can git

Well we laid a strip fer the Jersey Shore
An' prepared to cross the line
I could see the bridge 'as lined with bears
But I didn't have a doggone dime
I sez Pig-Pen, this here's the Rubber Duck
We just ain't a gonna pay no toll
So we crashed the gate doin' ninety-eight
I sez, let them truckers roll, 10-4

Cause we gotta mighty convoy, rockin' through the night
Yeah we gotta mighty convoy, ain't she a beautiful sight?
Come on an' join our convoy, ain't nothin' gonna git in our way
We're gonna roll this truckin' convoy, cross the USA
Convoy... Convoy...

Uh, 10-4 Pig-Pen, what's yer 20?
Omaha?!
Well they oughta know what to do with them hogs out there fer sure
Well mercy sakes alive good buddy
We gonna back on outta here
So keep the bugs off yer glass
An' the bears off yer... tail
We gonna catch ya on the flip-flop
This here's the Rubber Duck on the side
We gone
Bye, Bye...

[disinfo_guy]

1. this message showing up in all sorts of weird places, with these numbers

http://news.messages.yahoo.com/bbs?action=m&board=37138445&tid=apclintonbook&sid=37138445&mid=12

2 2 3 8 5 8 5 4 16 4 8 5 11
3 3 2 7 5 88 4 26 8 5 11

http://newyork.craigslist.org/mnh/rnr/34105900.html

[eek]

2. Kee Rist. These are lyrics from a stoopit 70's song

I'm just a regular person;gonna be there for the festivities .
However i am not clued enough to know how to interpret the meaning behind lyrics to "Convoy" by Ray Stevens

Can ya gimme a hint in the name of wanting a big turnout?

PS: i don't work for Asscrack. Promise

[disinfo_guy]

3. what is the "suicide jockey" with "dynamite"?

"bear in the air" is some kind of code for helicopters?

"They'd brought up some reinforcements
From the Illinois National Guard
There 'as armored cars, and tanks, and Jeeps
An' rigs of every size
Yeah them chicken coops 'as full a bears
An' choppers filled the skies "

wtf?

[not systems]

4. You missed the 70's I see...

the movie "Convoy" will make it all clear.



Yes a "Bear in the air" is a state trooper with a helicopter.

[T Town Jake]

6. LOL...

...I hadn't thought of that movie (or song) in years. I can still remember all the young freeper types on my playground singing "convoy" to each other during recess...LOL, what a time.

[disinfo_guy]

10. well what the hell is "silver iodine blues"? sprayed from helicopters?

I don't mean to sound all tinfoilish, but what is this supposed to be about? From the same link?

They gets themselves a plane
And they fly it around with chemicals, baby
Tryin' ta make it rain
So when you're out there in that blizzard,
Shiverin' in the cold
Just look up to the sky
And thank the Government for the snow
And sing the low-down, experimental, cloud-seedin',
Who-needs-'em-baby? silver i-i-o-dide blues

WTF???!!!??

Someone said this was some Freeper thing? I guess I just don't get it?

[MercutioATC]

12. Silver Iodide is what they seed clouds with to make it rain.

No insidious plot here...just cloud seeding.

[MercutioATC]

11. Break out the tinfoil hats! We have another conspiracy theory afoot!

This has to be the funniest one I've seen yet, and that's saying something...I hang out in the DU 9/11 Forum...

[5thGenDemocrat]

8. "Convoy" was by CW McCall

I think the name was. I was never much of a country fan in the 70s, but my brother Chuck had the album. Yeah, that's it.
John
It is now ten hours 56 minutes to FUNDAY. "Convoy" is not on the songlist.

[parasim]

9. Actaully, CW McCall was the stage name of William Fries...

... but the music and lyrics for Convoy was written by none other than Chip Davis, the dude who also did Mannheim Steamroller.

Now, aren't you glad to know that little hunk o' crap information?

[nose pin]

18. I don't know about the shorter strings of numbers

But using PGP to mess with the NSA computers is an old trick.

Back before anonymous remailers were banned, people would send anonymous messages, which would go through several anon remailers. Each remailer would add a PGP shell, and put random words in the subject header that they figured would be red-flagged by the NSA (like "bomb" or "nuclear" etc.). The theory was that the NSA would use up computer resources trying to crack the PGP codes on these messages, only to find another PGP encoded message inside. When they finally cracked them all, they would find someone's cybersex message, or a recipe for cookies.

It appears that people are sending these song lyrics PGP encoded through email, with subject headers implying that there is some secret subversive info inside. Again, the theory being that the NSA will spend time cracking the PGP, only to find a Pete Seeger song inside.

The problem is that people are unencoding these messages, and then posting them in the clear, with the PGP header. This sort of defeats the purpose, because the NSA now has the PGP header, and the clear text of the message, so now through reverse engineering, they can crack future messages using that key much more easily.

As for the shorter strings of numbers, I have no idea what that is about. Probably just random numbers that don't mean anything, but are supposed to look ominous.

[disinfo_guy]

21. unless the song lyrics are some sort of one time pad

oops I've said too much :)

Johnny played guitar, Jenny played bass.
Name of the band is The Human Race.
Everybody tell me have you heard? Pop goes the world.

Jenny played keyboard, Johnny played drums,
Called Little Baby and a big Bonhomme
Everybody tell me have you heard? Pop Goes The World.

It goes something like this: (p p p pop)

Johnny and Jenny had a crazy dream,
See their pictures in a magazine.
Every little boy needs a girl.
Pop Goes The World.

Jenny and Johnny getting smart (it seems)
Made more money on a movie screen.
Every little nest needs a bird.
Pop Goes The World.

One two three and four is five,
Everybody here is a friend of mine.
Whatever happened to the Duke of Earl?
Pop Goes The World.

Six seven eight and nine is ten,
Send Al Gunn to see the doctor (Ben)
Say what planet are we on? The third!
Pop Goes The World.

And Every time I wonder where the world went wrong,
End up lying on my face going ringy dingy ding dong

And every time I wonder if the world is right,
End up in some disco dancin' all night & day.

Johnny played guitar, Jenny played bass,
Name of the band is The Human Race.
Everybody tell me have you heard? Pop Goes The World.

Johnny played guitar, Jenny played bass,
Ain't nobody couldn't take their place.
Everybody tell me have you heard? Pop Goes The World.....

From: [email protected] (Paula Bowan)

[nose pin]

22. A one-time pad

that you've just posted publicly. Again, defeating the purpose. One-time pads are usually only known to the sender and receiver. Then your short strings of numbers come into play.

Didn't you see Manhunter?

[disinfo_guy]

23. sort of but not quite

there is something to be said about a "secret" message that the general public can decode - if they choose. In fact, it sort of fits in with the "leaderless resistance" idea.

Certainly, whatever we can decode NSA can decode as well. Perhaps that's part of it too? :shrug:

In any case using song lyrics as a one time pad is not all that of an original idea I don't think. You think that's what the post is?

[nose pin]

24. I couldn't tell you , but what I DO know is

that GODDAMN CONVOY SONG is stuck in my head now!!!!!!!!!

Damn you to HELL!!!!

[disinfo_guy]

25. lol

:)

okay I admit - I just HAD to download this song after this, it's interesting to say the least :)

[Elidor]

5. And me without my PGP decoder ring!

It sounds like I'm missing out on something really heavy. Whatever that means.

[Cat Atomic]

7. Yeah- CW McCall or some crap like that. From the movie "Convoy".

A lame ass movie, and even lamer sound track.

If it's political, it's coming fromt he right. No self-respecting liberal would know all the lyrics to "convoy", believe me.

[onecitizen]

13. Huh?

:shrug:

[Name removed]

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[disinfo_guy]

15. yeah I live in NYC

but evidentally I'm not up on the freeper secret code songs conspiracy yet. Give me some time I'll catch up :)

"Well we laid a strip fer the Jersey Shore
An' prepared to cross the line
I could see the bridge 'as lined with bears
But I didn't have a doggone dime
I sez Pig-Pen, this here's the Rubber Duck
We just ain't a gonna pay no toll
So we crashed the gate doin' ninety-eight
I sez, let them truckers roll, 10-4"

Bears? :)

[Jose Diablo]

16. Pretty Good Privacy, PGP, is uncrackable, so they say

Communication is vital to any civil disobedience, peaceful or otherwise. Being able to communicate without others knowing the plans is basic to any operation.

Using a 'public' PGP key is a good way to communicate because even though the key is public, the originator encrypts the message with their private key. Even with the public key and the encrypted message, without possessing the private key of the intended recipient renders the message untranslatable. "Man in the middle" intercept of messages are rendered ineffective by using PGP.

Organized resistance can use PGP to communicate privately. Thus forming cells, unknown to each other.

As for the song "Convoy", Independent truckers were placed in a economic squeeze in the 70's. Skyrocketing prices for fuel and taxes forced many "independents" into bankruptcy and the waiting arms of trucking corporations wanting the "independent's" business and the labor of the private "independent" owners. The fuel prices and high taxes helped these corporations attain their goals.

I cannot remember the date in the 70's, but the "independent" truckers protested in Washington over these issues. The song represents their anger at the government's help to the corporations in screwing the "independent" truckers.

Attacks against organized labor has been going on for a long, long time. The attack against the truckers, is but one of those attacks. It won't be the last attack. Nor will the "Independent" truckers fighting back be the last time Labor responded to the "elite" in society.

It is not tinfoil to say there has been, is and will be "class" warfare as long as there is injustice in how profit is distributed within the economic system.

[disinfo_guy]

17. is this about the Teamster strike in 79?

I seem to remember a "privatization" scheme against the Teamster in the late 70s? Is this what this is about?

I imagine independent and union truckers are going to get screwed with the higher gas prices recently.

[Jose Diablo]

19. Think of it as Competitive Strategy

In theory, large operations gain an advantage over small operations by using their size to reduce their "per unit costs".

For example, take maintenance of the equipment. If a truck breaks down on the road, the costs for that breakdown can sink a small operator because they do not have the resources to absorb the loss. A large operation can minimize the costs to maintain the equipment to keep the equipment in a condition that reduces to probability of a breakdown while on the road. And even with a breakdown, overall cost of that breakdown do not threaten the existence of the large operation. This is called economies of scale. The larger the operation, in theory, the lower the overall "per unit cost".

The lower the per unit cost will translate into a "competitive" advantage in the market. Once the small operators are gone, then the large operators agree to not compete with each other and transportation costs are driven-up to what the "market will bear" or as high as the costs of the final product can go until the ultimate consumer cannot buy the product because there is not money to buy.

As for fuel costs, all that are competing within that market for that business in theory have these same costs. In practice though, some of these costs have less of an impact on the larger operation because they can purchase fuel and store it in bulk at their centers of operation, thus operating at a lower cost than the smaller operator. This is one way "elites" can and do help each other at Labors expense.

[playahata1]

29. "Convoy" -- both song and movie -- came out several years

before the 1979 strike of which you speak.

[nose pin]

20. Difficult, but not uncrackable

You can bet that the NSA can crack any PGP message given enough time. This job is made easier when people unwittingly post messages in the clear like above. With an uncoded message to compare to the coded message, the key is easily cracked, if you have the computer resources.

[Jose Diablo]

26. Yes and no

From Bruce Schneier's "Applied Cryptography" on page 436-437:

"Pretty Good Privacy (PGP) is a public-domain encryption program designed by Phillip Zimmerman. It uses IDEA for data encryption, RSA (with a 512-bit, 1024-bit or 1280-bit) for key management, and MD5 as a one-way hash function. PGP also compresses files before encryption.

<snip> continue

PGP-encrypted messages have layered security. The only thing cryptanalyst's can learn about an encrypted message is who the recipient is, assuming they know the recipients key ID. Only after the recipient decrypts the message do they learn who signed the message, if it is signed. After verifying the signature they decrypt the message and learn what it says. Contrast this approach with PEM, which leaves quite a bit of information about the sender, recipient, and the message in the unencrypted header.

The most interesting aspect of PGP is its distributed approach to key management. There are no key certification authorities. All users generate and distribute their own public key. Users can sign one another's public keys. adding extra confidence to the key's validity. Someone who sign's another's public key becomes an introducer for that person. When users receive a new public key, they examine the list of introducer's who have signed the key. If one of the introducer's is someone they trust, then they have reason to accept the new key as valid. ...<snip>... PGP is well designed, nicely coded and in the public domain. It is the closest you're likely to get to military-grade encryption."

<End of quote>

As for possessing "A" public key and both the clear and encrypted messages, without possessing each of the private keys, future messages cannot be decrypted based in just possessing a single clear and encrypted message with the public key for that single message.

The key phrase is "given enough time". Brute force decryption would require longer than the time that it is necessary to keep the message secret without possessing the private keys. Even with todays computers.


New quote from page 261

"...IDEA, the International Data Encryption Algorithm. In my opinion, it is the best and most secure block algorithm available to the public at this time.

Overview of IDEA
IDEA is a block cypher; it operates on 64-bit plain text blocks. The key is 128 bits long. The same algorithm is used for both encryption and decryption.

<snip to page 264>
Cryptoanalysis of IDEA
IDEA's key length is 128 bits-over twice as long as DES. Assuming that a brute-force attack is the most efficient, it would require 2 to 128 power encryptions to recover the key. Design a chip that test a billion keys per second and throw a billion of them at the problem, and it will still take 10 to the 13 power in years- thats longer than the age of the universe. An array of 10 to the 24 power such chips can find the key in a day, but there aren't enough silicon atom in the universe to build such a machine-although I'd keep my eye on the dark matter debate."

PGP is a solid crypto technique.

The only 'weakness' I see at this time is users download PGP from the internet and the code they download may have been compromised at some time in the past. However, the source code for PGP is public domain, thus anyone contemplating serious resistance will obtain the original source code and compile the original source code thus insuring no back doors have been introduced by the intelligence agencies trying to thwart private communication between the citizens.

[disinfo_guy]

27. isn't it possible to "sign" a message with encryption?

So you know that the message has not beeen changed?

[datasuspect]

28. "put the hammer down"

yeah buddy, that's what i'm talking 'bout

eastbound and down, loaded up and truckin

roger roger