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seventhson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-17-04 04:14 PM
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Boycott Exxon and Buy Shell!!!
http://www.guardian.co.uk/print/0,3858,4949299-103690,0...

I say we BOYCOTT EXXON/MOBIL and BUY SHELL!!!

This is a dramatic admission and a great opportunity for progressive action. I, for one, will pledge to buy shell instead of Exxon wherever and whenever possible.




Oil chief: my fears for planet
Shell boss's 'confession' shocks industry

http://www.guardian.co.uk/print/0,3858,4949299-103690,0...

David Adam, science correspondent
Thursday June 17, 2004

The Guardian

The head of one of the world's biggest oil companies has admitted that the threat of climate change makes him "really very worried for the planet". In an interview in today's Guardian Life section, Ron Oxburgh, chairman of Shell, says we urgently need to capture emissions of the greenhouse gas carbon dioxide, which scientists think contribute to global warming, and store them underground - a technique called carbon sequestration.

"Sequestration is difficult, but if we don't have sequestration then I see very little hope for the world," said Lord Oxburgh. "No one can be comfortable at the prospect of continuing to pump out the amounts of carbon dioxide that we are pumping out at present ... with consequences that we really can't predict but are probably not good."

His comments will enrage many in the oil industry, which is targeted by climate change campaigners because the use of its products spews out huge quantities of carbon dioxide, most visibly from vehicle exhausts. His words follow those of the government's chief science adviser, David King, who said in January that climate change posed a bigger threat to the world than terrorism.

....



Mr Oakley said a gulf was opening between more progressive oil companies such as Shell, which invests in alternative energy sources including wind and solar power, and ExxonMobil, the biggest and most influential producer, particularly in the US.
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charlie105 Donating Member (408 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-17-04 04:15 PM
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1. Another reason: Shell advertises on Air America Radio.
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seventhson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-17-04 04:23 PM
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5. Really??? I'll be damned. Anyone want to take the pledge?
Edited on Thu Jun-17-04 04:23 PM by seventhson
Boycott EXXON/MOBIL! BUY SHELL!!!

Who makes Bumper Stickers? I need one.

If we can make this have impact it can truly change the world (at least a little bit).
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AP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-17-04 04:49 PM
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12. Why do they advertise on AAR? Because they're so awful, it's the only way
they can redeem themselves.

Nigeria, anyone?

Ogoniland?
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MoonRiver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-17-04 04:17 PM
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2. Thanks for the info!!
I will buy Shell from now on, and absolutely boycott ExxonMobil!
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mwdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-17-04 04:19 PM
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3. I always buy Shell
or Citgo.
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Submariner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-17-04 04:21 PM
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4. Haven't bought a drop of gas from Exxon since Valdez spill
Edited on Thu Jun-17-04 04:22 PM by Submariner
in 1989. I would hope many DU'ers would always boycott the Exxon oilpigs. Better late than never.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-17-04 04:42 PM
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6. Please, do call and inform Shell why you're switching
Ways to contact them can be found here.

It's Citgo and Shell for me now. :)
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-17-04 04:44 PM
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7. Question
British Petroleum has been running commercials touting their 'Beyond Petroleum' New Agey save-the-world oil company attitude.

I wonder if this Shell guy is either bandwagoneering, or trying to undercut BP? This article soulds an awful lot like an ad for Shell.
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AP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-17-04 04:48 PM
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10. If you want to know why they're doing this, go see The Corporation.
Shell started trying to reform their public image after Ken Sarowiwa was excuted. Rumor is, it was done for Shell -- the government let Shell call it off at the last minute, and Shell said go ahead. They got a little more blowback from that than they expected.

But they still engage in terrible business practices, and they still will.
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Fear Donating Member (745 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-17-04 04:45 PM
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8. Shell + Hydrogen
And don't forget about transforming Iceland into a totally run country on Hydrogen.


http://www.geothermie.de/egec-geothernet/basic/2003_05_...
http://www.shell.is/category.aspx?catID=275
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AP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-17-04 04:46 PM
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9. Boycott Shell too. There's a great part of the doc "The Corporation"
Edited on Thu Jun-17-04 04:51 PM by AP
talking to and about the last CEO of Shell, and they talk about how the corporation puts on a public facade of contrition to make consumers feel like they're trying to be good, but they keep up with all the awful shit they do anyway.

This thread is a perfect example of people being suckers for that.

Until Shell stops fucking up Nigeria, I will never buy from Shell, no matter what public facade they put up.

Buy Citgo.
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Fear Donating Member (745 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-17-04 04:49 PM
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11. ok ok ok, you're right
problem is, they are all dirty as hell :(
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AP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-17-04 04:50 PM
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13. Not Citgo.
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Fear Donating Member (745 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-17-04 04:51 PM
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14. any links to back that up?
Edited on Thu Jun-17-04 04:59 PM by Fear
How's the money stream / oil stream running with them?
Doing searches on Citgo I end up coming across BUSH and Citgo ?!?!
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AP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-17-04 06:47 PM
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20. Venezuelas CITGO Contributes to Social Programs ...
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GernBlanston Donating Member (46 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-17-04 04:56 PM
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16. BP
I haven't given Exxon one red cent in 15 years, and if I can help it, I never will.

BP is the only major oil co. I've found that is genuinely doing anything about researching renewable energy sources (one of thier research facilities on I-70 near Frederick, MD is operating on solar power). Of course, they're still an oil mega-corp, and I'm sure they do things we wish they didn't... but today in America, we have almost no choice but to consume gas, and we have to buy it from somewhere.

Just not Exxon.

btw... what is "The Corporation"?
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treepig Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-17-04 05:33 PM
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17. perhaps you should weigh in on this thread . . .
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AP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-17-04 06:10 PM
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19. BP's concern for the environment isn't much deeper than changing its logo.
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treepig Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-17-04 04:52 PM
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15. maybe it's a good idea in principle
Edited on Thu Jun-17-04 04:53 PM by treepig
but in reality, it's a myth (leaving aside shell's atrocities in nigeria)

as debunked by snopes time and again:

http://www.snopes.com/inboxer/outrage/nogas.htm


Statistics aside, the glaring fallacy here is the suggestion that we could possibly buy our gasoline only from these selected companies. This notion is like claiming that we could put the big grocery chains out of business if we all bought our food only from small mom & pop stores, but ignoring the fact that these small shops couldn't possibly come close to supplying all our grocery needs. The oil companies named above are relatively small (which is a large part of the reason why they don't necessarily import from the Middle East) and could not satisfy the demand that would be created if a significant portion of the USA's consumer base were to shun all the largest oil companies, unless they bought up the output of the companies we were supposed to be avoiding in the first place (or, alternatively, unless they raised their prices sky-high).

Moreover, the idea that oil companies sell gasoline only through their branded service stations -- and therefore if you don't buy gasoline from Shell-branded gas stations you're not sending money to Shell (or, by extension, the Middle East) -- is wrong. Oil companies sell their output through a variety of outlets other than their branded stations; as well, by the time crude oil gets from the ground into our gasoline tanks, there's no telling exactly where it came from. (A good deal of the crude oil purchased from Russia, for example, is oil from Iraqi fields sold through Russian middlemen.)


Complex problems rarely lend themselves to simple, painless answers. Simply shifting where we buy gasoline isn't nearly as good a solution as the much tougher choice of sharply curtailing the amount of gasoline we buy.


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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-17-04 05:56 PM
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18. Which gas brand does my gas station use?
I go to Holiday or Kwik-Trip. Sometimes Amoco, though I think they use Exxon-Mobil? :shrug:

I will happily support Shell in light of this.

Thanks MUCH for posting!!

:yourock:

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