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buycitgo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-04 02:55 PM
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Will the mainstream media EVER admit that Bush is cracked?
I mean, come on. How much more is it going to take for the handmaidens to concede the obvious?

they referred obliquely to the situation last week, after the disastrous G8 press conference, during which the chimp appeared to be either very high ON something, or fallen OFF something that he should have been taking

I've read about the medicine (two pills daily) that he takes, but upon which nobody will comment

what's going on behind the scenes?

there's a Rense link that refers to a cabinet meeting during which Bush became incoherent, that he rarely even speaks/looks at staffers, that he's subject to seizures, or TIAs (goes a long way towards explaining his falling off things problems--bikes, couches, Segways)

don't the media OWE it to us to start investigating the state of our self-proclaimed "leader's" physical/mental health?

not ONE word on CNN/MSNBC of today's peculiar press conference actions; only brief snips of his comments regarding the Saddam
handover

would it do any good to use that list of media contacts to encourage the sloths to start checking up on his state of mind?
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MissRegina Donating Member (178 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-04 02:58 PM
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1. Curious Now
What kind of medicine does he take? I never heard about that.

Regina
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buycitgo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-04 03:03 PM
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3. Donhakman (sp?) quoted a Rense link to that effect
I'd seen it before, and wonder, also, what drug he's taking

the article said they didn't know what it was, either

will do a little googling on what medication he might be taking
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Lexingtonian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-04 04:07 PM
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17. This came up about three weeks ago around here

The general impression, buffeted by a diagnostic assessement a neurologist emailed to Eric Alterman and some other anonymous looks at the matter, is that Dubya probably has a relatively mild variety of epilepsy and is on anti-convulsant medication.

The best fit to Dubya's behavior is that it's mostly temporal lobe epilesy, but not utterly confied to that, and the medication dosage and side effects that can be seen fit pretty closely to those known for a drug called Topamax. Topamax is the most effective medication for temporal lobe epilepsy. Temporal lobe epilepsy leads to 'personality change', generally in the direction of religiosity mostly predicated on emotional impulses, and fits pretty closely to the changes in Bush in 1978 and the early '80s. Epilepsy would also explain his grounding and erratic medical reports from the Texas Air National Guard, and the indirect secrecy and protectiveness the Bush family (e.g. Laura) have imposed.

Epilepsy is mostly familial, but we don't see any obvious pattern of it in anyone else in the Bush family. Bush Sr. was on antidepressants and iirc Halcyon for periods of time, but medically he fits an alcoholic profile rather than epileptic.

There is another source of epilepsy that isn't discussed much- use of alcohol by the mother in some portions of pregnancy. The syndrome goes under initials FAE (fetal alcohol effects) and is quite a smorgasboard of messy neurological problems (epileptic, dyslexic, autistic, sensory deprived behavior) and minor physical malformations. In my opinion Bush's facial features, when compared to those of the rest of the family, show a mild pattern of difference that in more extreme forms shows up in people with fetal alcohol syndrome (FAS).

So I suspect Babs did a bit too much partying or was grossly depressed while preggers. And she's so vile because she's deathly afraid of the world figuring out that she inspired Rosemary's Baby.... :-)

It does raise the question of when the Republicans will give us a presidential candidate who isn't a neurological/psychiatric patient. Nixon had stroke personality if not mild schizophrenic symptomology, Reagan gave us the gift of Alzheimers and a White House run by the eunuchs and vile courtiers and minions, Bush Sr was a dry drunk and suicidal depressive, Dubya is the Man of The Sacred Malady and imagines himself Caesar reincarnated.
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buycitgo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-04 04:16 PM
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18. Thank YOU!
I'd heard of the FAS bit before; have read about Babs' drinking problems......whispered amongst her country club crowd

mean drunk, too, of course

the epilepsy certainly makes sense, especially the religious aspects.

there IS a place in the brain that scientists have linked to spirituality, right? is that the spot affected by this particular type of epilepsy?

does this also fall in line with the obvious malignantly narcisstic personality disorder he displays?

thanks for your most interesting contribution....sorry I missed that discussion a few weeks ago
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Eurobabe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-04 03:00 PM
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2. I agree totally, it was National ALZHEIMERS awareness
week last week, ala Ronnie. So much was made of the fact that Reagan may have started a decline in his second term.

Someone needs to get this shit out on the table. Bu$h is obviously ill with something....and we have a sick Veep too, geez. We, the people have a right to know.

I think anyone running for Pres. ought to have genetic testing up front (LOL) No BPD-psychos allowed. On the other maybe we would have better luck with a robot.
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buycitgo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-04 03:09 PM
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4. here's the Rense site
http://www.rense.com/general52/bsei.htm

This report states Bush is said to be taking "oral medication at least twice a day according to because of an unspecified 'indisposition'." Such an 'indisposition' might well be related to either of the items above. IF this story is true - and quite clearly there IS something wrong with President Bush's mental faculties - we have a national crisis at hand. Bush has steadfastly refused to open his medical records - a sure indicator there is something to hide.

now, the best part


"At some time in the past, according to both and the President suffered what one of his aides called "a very minor seizure" and as a result of this, the President has a very difficult time following any unscripted conversations. For this reason, his staff carefully and aggressively protect the President from "unexpected" questions that he is not capable of answering."

"The President takes oral medication at least twice a day according to because of an unspecified "indisposition' and this subject is strictly off limits for any casual staff conversation."

"At one point during a staff conference, the President stood up and began to speak in an unknown language. Mr. Rove was able to stop the President and get him to resume his seat. It was reported by that for a period of time (about fifteen minutes) after this incident, the President appeared to be 'somewhat confused and very inarticulate.'"

"White House staff members report that they rarely see the President during work hours and that when they do, he is generally accompanied by Mr. Rove and almost never either looks at or speaks to members of the staff. He does not appear to recognize many of the staff members and almost all contact with these individuals are carried out by his close aides, especially by Mr. Rove."


is this true? sure would be nice to know, wouldn't it?

make what you will of Rense, but look at what passes for credible for the wingnuts, from newsmax, to frontpage, to townhall, to worldnut daily, to drudge, to.....well you get the picture
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Nite Owl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-04 03:14 PM
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5. Notice how those right wing sites do
get quoted in mainstream media. Like the Kerry/intern phoney story. From the 'liberal' media of course.
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lanparty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-04 04:52 PM
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19. You shouldn't stigmatize ...

One should not stigmatize the mentally ill. Lots of people take anti-depressents and anti-convulsants. As long as the meds do their jobs, it shouldn't be a problem.

But there obviously IS something wrong with this man. He cannot carry on conversations that aren't pre-scripted. I wouldn't chalk it up to a disease. I chalk it up largely to the towers of lies that this administration has spun. The towers are falling over now and they're no having trouble separating reality from their fantasy when dealing with the public.

Alzheimers is the big exception here. Because it's a degenerative disease that really cannot be treated. It takes people's mental capacity away and there is no going back.

But all good liberals should be reluctant to stigmatize the maladies of the brain. We have enough trouble with CONSERVATIVES to recognize the importance of mental health care and stress awarness. We don't need liberals making hypocrites out of themselves!!!!!

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buycitgo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-04 05:08 PM
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20. who's stigmatizing?
if he has epilepsy, who cares?

EXCEPT for the possibility that he may have had seizures at inopportune moments, and, if that's true, the American people have a RIGHT to know

they have a DUTY to tell us about that

if he does, and they're hiding it, they obviously are doing it for a reason, aren't they?

and you know how they LOVE to claim their opponents are subject to mental disorders, from McCain to Gore to Richard Clarke to Paul ONeill

you sure you want to stick with the stigmatize bit?
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Redleg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-04 03:16 PM
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6. No but they will continue to insist that Al Gore is emotionally unstable.
Edited on Tue Jun-15-04 03:17 PM by Redleg
What a bunch of crap.
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buycitgo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-04 03:20 PM
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7. Well, he DID raise his voice above normal level a few times during that
speech to which you're probably referring

those were the only clips the media showed

obviously proof that he's deranged, yes?
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Redleg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-04 03:23 PM
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9. Crazy like a fox!
The media did the same bullshit to Howard Dean. Maybe it is good that Kerry is relatively mellow when he speaks.
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-04 03:20 PM
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8. Only when Julius Streicher rises from the grave to denounce Hitler
EXACTLY at that moment.

www.us-israel.org/jsource/biography/Streicher.html
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buycitgo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-04 03:34 PM
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11. you are SO cynical
speaking of which, I just found this while looking for more stuff on Bush meds

"Only in America do we use the word 'politics' to describe the process so well: 'Poli' in Greek meaning 'many' and 'tics' meaning 'bloodsucking creatures'"
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-04 03:41 PM
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13. Man, only because time and time again the Busheviks have exceeded
my predictions.

For instance:

During the early Phases of the Iraq Invasion, I told everyone, "Watch. As soon as the cameras turn off and the spotlight is gone, the Bushevik Monsters will be training the SAVAK-like replacements for Saddam's Secret Police, who will reopen the Torture and Rape Rooms under new managment.

Now, you might think that a pretty cynical prediction, certainly many I spoke to thought so.

But then the Bushevik went and exceeded my "worst nightmare" when they felt so comfortable as the Untouchable Ryrants of Amerika that they authorized directly both the Torture and the Gestapo Death Questioning for at least a handful of prisoners...AT LEAST.

Now, that is not the first or the tenth but perhaps the twentieth oir thirtieth time my predictions, bad as they were, were too mild (did that make me an Optimist?) for the reality of what the Busheviks actually did in the end.

So I was forced to modulate my "cynicism" to be more in keeping with the dictates of reality.

Yes, people who live in Totalitarian Societies as we do often find comfort in cynicysm or the famous (and funny) "gallows humor" of the Soviet Citizenry that the Imperial Subjects of Amerika so closely resemble nowadays.
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buycitgo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-04 03:47 PM
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14. wandering off track on search......connect the dots?
Edited on Tue Jun-15-04 03:58 PM by buycitgo




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Waverley_Hills_Hiker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-04 03:33 PM
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10. He sounded pretty cracked on the radio..,the breif remarks I heard.
just a brief remark about the interim govt getting custody of Saddam. He soulnded kind of pissed-off or just "off" somehow.

Its tough to put my finger on whats up with Bush, but there is something about him that rubs me wrong.
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catmandu57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-04 03:38 PM
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12. Isn't poppy on an anti psychotic?
I seem to remember he was on haldol, that's pretty strong stuff.
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buycitgo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-04 03:51 PM
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15. I doubt he was on haldol
he's taken things like halcyon

something for heart arrythmia

something for Graves' disease, maybe

haldol is what his dopey son should be on
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MajorFlaw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-04 03:52 PM
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16. If you had shrub for a son, you would probably take
something strong too.
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