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Charlie Brown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-12-04 04:22 PM
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What to do about Iran?
I just read today that one of the Mullahs was demanding Iran be accepted by the UN as a nuclear power. They claim they are only interested in creating electricity. The thought of a hostile nation with nuclear capacity does not sound very comforting (no more than North Korea). How should the UN and other western nations respond? Tighter sanctions? Political isolation? Deadlines for inspections? If Iran does not concede to demands, what options are left?
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tandot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-12-04 04:29 PM
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1. Conquer? Annihilate? Do they have resources like oil?
Hey, we already have soldiers in Iraq, we could just sent them over to Iran?

Sorry, I was just trying to guess Rummy's thoughts in that matter. :puke:
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Ms. Clio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-12-04 04:37 PM
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never cry wolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-12-04 04:29 PM
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2. Maybe make sure they are not hostile?
If we stop being belligerant towards muslim states and aknowledge their right to exist and modernize combined with close UN monitoring of their weapons systems.

Accept them as world partners and place upon them the responsibilities that go along with that.

Dontcha think the muslim nations are concerned with Israel being a nuclear nation?
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mmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-12-04 04:34 PM
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6. Iran has every right to become a nuclear nation
Someone in the area needs the ability to
negotiate with Israel and the US.
A nuclear Iran could be a stabilizing factor in the area.
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kaitykaity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-12-04 05:26 PM
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23. I think you took a left when you should have taken a right.
We come here to get away from the drivel that passes
for political commentary in this country.

Please don't bring that drivel here. It sticks out
for the ignorant rambling that it is.

(I can't use my favorite graphic anymore, but it involves
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DrWeird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-12-04 05:20 PM
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21. Freepers are ignorant bigots.
They say bigotted things like "muslims with nukes... no thanks" which is also ignorant, since Pakistan has had nukes for years.

They are also functionally illiterate, very frequently misspelling words and leaving out apostrophes.
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Curious Dave Donating Member (173 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-12-04 05:09 PM
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On this guy. Its like wrestling with a hog... the hog will enjoy himself and you'll just get dirty. :)
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Curious Dave Donating Member (173 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-12-04 04:30 PM
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3. We Should Leave Them Alone
I don't recall that Iran (or North Korea for that matter) ever unleashed nuclear horror on the innocent civilian populations of 2 major cities. I can only think of one country thats ever done that. That fact, couple with our having bush in office, makes me think the world would be wiser to trust Iran and North Korea with nukes than to trust the U.S. with them.
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mmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-12-04 04:37 PM
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11. Why not tell us how much you hate that bastard Bush...
while you are in the area.
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Bridget Burke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-12-04 04:39 PM
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12. Pakistan already has nukes.
Get your gun & get going.

Of course, as a slavery-loving native of South Carolina, you'd obviously prefer to take a traitorous shot at your own country.



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name not needed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-12-04 04:33 PM
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5. Keep with the inspections
but otherwise leave them alone. The students there are getting angrier and the theocratic government may not be around for much longer if it keeps going this way.
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BillZBubb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-12-04 04:35 PM
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7. Pakistan having nukes is just as dangerous as Iran.
Iran getting nukes isn't the end of the world by any stretch. North Korea is a different matter. But, the ship has set sail on that one.

A genuine leader in the White House (not the phony fanatic we've got now) would be able to put together an international alliance to isolate Iran as much as needed. It needs to be a carrot and stick approach, light on the stick. Let them see in a non-belligerent way the benefits of forgetting nuclear weapons versus the detriments of having them.

Because of Bush* these countries see nukes as their only sure way to guarantee they won't get targetted for active regime change.
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drumwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-12-04 04:35 PM
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8. here's another complication
If the general population was as hostile as the Iranian government, it would be easier to say, "OK, we should get tough on Iran."

But we need to consider that most of the population loathes the mullahs and is more sympathetic than not to the West. If we can hold off as long as possible without getting aggressive with the mullahs, it would be much better to cultivate the good will of the Iranian people who will probably at some point replace the mullahs with a friendlier government down the road. Invading Iran would scuttle any chance of that.
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Charlie Brown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-12-04 04:42 PM
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13. After posting this
I realized something. We've conquered two countries, one on either side of Iran. Could Iran have been the objective all along for the Pentagon & those jerks (to use Powell's words) in the Defense Dept. This notion somehow makes it all even more devious.
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MoonRiver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-12-04 05:23 PM
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22. That's why the US under * can do nothing at all about Iran, Korea....
WE are more suspect than any other country in the world right now. Thanks, A-HOLE (aka bush*).
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acmavm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-12-04 05:46 PM
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25. Actually, we haven't conquered anything. Afganistan is lost and we
haven't got a clue in Iraq. Iran certainly fit into the equation, but due to the complete incompetence of this administration, there's no way in hell to pull that one off.

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