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Triana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-04 11:38 AM
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Iraq government takes control of oil - "Left Eating Crow Now"
...or so the Freeper Neo-Cons assert. True, or not? Is this more bu$hit/Halliburton lies? The article I refer to is as follows:

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Baghdad, Iraq - Iraqi officials declared today that the interim government has assumed full control of the country's oil industry ahead of the June 30 handover of sovereignty from the U.S.-led occupation administration.

"Today the most important natural resource has been returned to Iraqis to serve all Iraqis," Prime Minister Iyad Allawi said. "I'm pleased to announce that full sovereignty and full control on oil industry has been handed over to the oil ministry today and to the new Iraqi government as of today."

The announcement came as Allawi and Oil Minister Thamir Ghadbhan toured the al-Doura oil refinery in southern Baghdad. After meeting and shaking hands with the refinery workers, the two ministers thanked oil sector workers.

"We are totally now in control, there are no more advisers," Ghadbhan said. "We are running the show, the oil policies will be implemented 100 percent by Iraqis."

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Delano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-04 11:41 AM
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1. It's Bullshit because the oil industry is being privatized.
Edited on Wed Jun-09-04 11:42 AM by Delano
IE - stolen from the Iraqi people and sold for pennies on the dollar to US-controlled multinational oil companies.
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rfranklin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-04 11:41 AM
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2. The interim government was appointed by the Bush junta...
They are stooges and puppets.

There has been no accounting for the money generated by the oil being pumped out of Iraq.
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Norquist Nemesis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-04 11:41 AM
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3. My calendar says
today is June 9th. Bush administration has been telling us that June 30th the keys get turned over.

Finally! An Iraqi Coup!!! :bounce:
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JustFiveMoreMinutes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-04 11:41 AM
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4. ... policies implemented by ...
But those polices are given by ???????????

I really hate being distrustful!!!
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-04 11:43 AM
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5. If bush hadn't given up control of the oil
the security council would not have approved anything presented to them by bush.
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Ms. Clio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-04 11:45 AM
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6. It's bullshit
Behind the Scenes,
US Tightens Grip on Iraq's Future
By Yochi J. Dreazen and Christopher Cooper
Wall Street Journal
May 13, 2004

Haider al-Abadi runs Iraq's Ministry of Communications, but he no longer calls the shots there. Instead, the authority to license Iraq's television stations, sanction newspapers and regulate cellphone companies was recently transferred to a commission whose members were selected by Washington. The commissioners' five-year terms stretch far beyond the planned 18-month tenure of the interim Iraqi government that will assume sovereignty on June 30.

The transfer surprised Mr. Abadi, a British-trained engineer who spent nearly two decades in exile before returning to Iraq last year. He found out the commission had been formally signed into law only when a reporter asked him for comment about it. "No one from the U.S. even found time to call and tell me themselves," he says.

As Washington prepares to hand over power, U.S. administrator L. Paul Bremer and other officials are quietly building institutions that will give the U.S. powerful levers for influencing nearly every important decision the interim government will make.

In a series of edicts issued earlier this spring, Mr. Bremer's Coalition Provisional Authority created new commissions that effectively take away virtually all of the powers once held by several ministries. The CPA also established an important new security-adviser position, which will be in charge of training and organizing Iraq's new army and paramilitary forces, and put in place a pair of watchdog institutions that will serve as checks on individual ministries and allow for continued U.S. oversight. Meanwhile, the CPA reiterated that coalition advisers will remain in virtually all remaining ministries after the handover.


http://www.globalpolicy.org/security/issues/iraq/occupation/2004/0513usgrip.htm
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Triana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-04 12:15 PM
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7. s'what I thought....
...just wanted evil DU'ers to know what the Freepers are saying about this...dittoheads they are, swallowing whole and unquestioningly every plateful of bu$hit dished up to them by the corprat media. Egh.
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IXLNXS Donating Member (13 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-04 12:26 PM
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13. We'd like some more Kool Aid Sir!
Thank you sir! May I have another?
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never cry wolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-04 12:22 PM
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8. If true...
just let the Iraqis try to take the contracts away from Halliburton, et al, and give them to a French or Soviet company or base their price on the Euro and see what happens.
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-04 12:23 PM
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9. Just another lie.
Yawn.
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trogdor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-04 12:26 PM
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12. I don't know about that...
...the REAL truth - Iraq is assuming control of the oil because the insurgency has made it impossible for Halliburton to make any money from it. Tell that to your freeper "friends".
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-04 12:33 PM
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14. I do. The Busheviks and their Toadies lie about virtually EVERYTHING
It may not be scientific, but if someone lies 99.5% of the time, it is probably safe to assume that you are always being lied to.

No WAY the Busheviks have turned over 100% control to the oil, I don't give a shit how bad the insurrection is.

And I don't HAVE any Freeper friends (some Old-School Republicans is about it). They are my mortal enemies as the Nazi was to the Jew Who'd Been Pushed Too Far...which I am.
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ContinentalOp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-04 12:24 PM
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10. Here's the big question...
Are they trading with Euros or Dollars?
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-04 12:35 PM
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15. Dollars. 100% certain.
The thing about living in a Totalitarian Society like Imperial Amerika is the obvious predictability of everything.

I have no source, no link, no article. I just KNOW like a Sovioet Citizen knew Stalin killed Trostsky even though it wasn't in Pravda.

Anybody got a link confirming the Soviet Obviousness of It All?
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-04 12:25 PM
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11. Making it "appear" that Iraqi's control their oil...they think will stop
attacks on the pipeline. Seems the Iraq people have been smart enough not to believe their bullshit up to now. They may give it a few weeks before the attacks commence again.

These people are so full of themselves they think they can continue the deception. Sheesh!
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-04 12:36 PM
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16. the Imperial got spoiled dealing with the weak and slavish Imperial
Subjects of Amerika.

The Free World isn't so easy to bullshit and bully.

But Free America is awakening, so maybe they won't even have an easy time lying, defrauding and enslaving at home in the Empire much longer.
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-04 01:25 PM
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18. Just after I posted my comment here the Iraq Pipline got blown up again.
Edited on Wed Jun-09-04 01:25 PM by KoKo01
ABC News reporting it. It's up now in LBN. Seems the blowout was near Kirkuk...that supposedly "stable" part of Iraq. Wasn't it last week that there was an attack on US Weapon's storage in Kirkuk? That story never got much play in the news.

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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-04 01:36 PM
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19. Well I don't count the subjects of Imperial Freedomstan (formerly Iraq)
Edited on Wed Jun-09-04 01:36 PM by tom_paine
as members of the Free World. Hell, they are enslaved by the same folk who have their iron boots gently (for now) on our necks.

But I catch your drift, anyway. The Iraqis are fighting for their freedom against a Ruthless and Cruel (still better than the Nazis, at least) Occupation Force.
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-04 12:44 PM
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17. We're running the show
As long as we run it by Cheney first.
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Shakespeare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-04 01:48 PM
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20. DING DING DING! That is the correct answer.
The interim government is, for all practical purposes, the CPA. They're doing our bidding, so any "control" being handed over is purely illusory.
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ContinentalOp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-04 02:18 PM
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21. Here's the thing,
When people say this war is about oil, nobody expected Bush to go connect a hose to the pipline, start up Arbusto II and watch the money flow into his personal bank account. Yet anything short of that will be spun by the right as "see this had nothing to do with oil."

The lesson of Enron should be that the control of the flow of energy and control of energy markets is more important than the actual energy itself. The real money is made not by the owners of the oil but by people who can manipulate prices and play games with the market. Why get dirty actually pumping the oil out of the ground when you can make billions by playing games with imaginary numbers?

So regardless of who owns the Iraqi oil and who makes the first profits off of it (It could be an Iraqi though it certainly won't be the Iraqi people) the people down the line are the ones who hold all of the power and stand to make the most money.
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