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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-04 09:19 AM
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Ashcroft being lambasted LIVE by Senator Leah about 911 C-Span right now!
Edited on Tue Jun-08-04 10:12 AM by ElsewheresDaughter
Anti-Terrorism Efforts
Inquiry Judicary Committee

i believe it is an investigation into the Abu Ghraib torture
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nostamj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-04 09:20 AM
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1. could Asscrack look any more SMUG
he's wearing his "WHO CARES WHAT YOU THINK" look...

feh!
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jdj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-04 10:04 AM
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54. This is Leahy's e-mail address.
Edited on Tue Jun-08-04 10:21 AM by jdjkkse
@[email protected]

For some reason this is the only way I could get it to post as a hot link.

If it comes back go to http://www.senate.gov to and click on the link for Leahy or Vermont.

edit: someone posted a link to the contact form below, it is:

http://leahy.senate.gov/contact.html

whoa here comes Kennedy asking if KKK is invoking executive privilege
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jdj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-04 10:30 AM
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109. Whoa!!! Biden just told him he's in contempt of Congress!
God, everyone needs to watch this.

I don't know what documents Ashcroft won't turn over, does anyone know.

Biden is giving him hell, said Janet Reno came before them 22 times and KKK only 3 times, said "We miss you, John."


We need to thank Biden, too.

[email protected]

Holy crap!!! Biden just said these treaties are so that if his son is captured by the enemy "HE IS NOT TORTURED".

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BleedingHeartPatriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-04 09:22 AM
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2. He's looking so smug and self righteous
You can just imagine him thinking,"Yep, did it all for my buddy God."
Scary looking dude, that Ashcroft. MKJ
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sundancekid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-04 09:30 AM
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21. welcome to DU, BHP
:hi:
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BleedingHeartPatriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-04 09:47 AM
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33. Thanks
Grateful to find a large group of free thinking, smart and funny people! MKJ
Is it proper DU etiquette to respond to a welcome in the middle of a message board?
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ProfessorGAC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-04 09:53 AM
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42. It's Within Etiquette, Of Course
Someone says hi, you say hi back. Who could be offended by that?
Welcome.
The Professor
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-04 09:22 AM
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3. Look at asscroft's face!
He has such an arrogant look on it...like..."So? What are you going to do about it?" His eyes are so evil!
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Nite Owl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-04 09:23 AM
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4. He's so creepy to look at.
Look at his tie, like the one Bush* wore during his Press Conference.
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wndycty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-04 09:23 AM
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5. Oh damn. . .
. . .I have only heard 15 seconds. . .and its harsh!
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Wind Dancer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-04 09:24 AM
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6. I love Senator Leahy,
never afraid to confront the neocons.
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k in IA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-04 09:24 AM
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7. God, he is nailing him.
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-04 09:25 AM
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9. What is he saying? What's the buzz?
Tell us what's a-happening.
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BleedingHeartPatriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-04 09:28 AM
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17. Leahy also criticized
his circumventing the bill of rights by detaining "enemy combatants" and Arab immigrants without due process. MKJ
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-04 09:29 AM
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18. What's Ashcroft doing in front of the committee?
Is he there to praise Ronald Reagan or because he's being investigated?
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-04 09:37 AM
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26. believe he's being investigated........
that's my take of why he's before congressional committee this morning :shrug:
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-04 09:40 AM
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30. Does anyone know if this is about the torture memo, or Abu Ghraib?
Or something else?
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-04 10:21 AM
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82. about both the torture memo's and Abu Griab and
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ewagner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-04 09:25 AM
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11. Details? n/t
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wndycty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-04 09:25 AM
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8. Ashcroft looks like he is about to go off. . .
:kick:
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wndycty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-04 09:26 AM
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13. He criticized Ashcroft's questioning of people's patriotism
:kick:
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Katarina Donating Member (753 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-04 09:25 AM
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10. Thank you for letting us know
I've been keeping the news off for the last few days. I would have missed it.
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-04 09:26 AM
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12. Oh man! Leahy is pissed!
Not that asscroft will care. :eyes:
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nostamj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-04 09:27 AM
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14. Ashcroft: "I'm not going to respond"
I have an agenda.... and on he goes to PRAISE RR!!!

:grr:
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-04 09:27 AM
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15. Oh shit.
Asscroft is singing Reagan's praises. :puke: Give me a fucking break!
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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-04 09:30 AM
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20. then plays 'terr-a terr-a' card
jeeze, get a new script.

now patting DOJ on the back for protecting rights of religious expression for a girl in the US (wearing head scarf to school)


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sundancekid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-04 09:28 AM
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16. yea, talk about taking somebody to the woodshed BUT on national tv!
go Sen. Leahy -- checks and balances indeed! He even quotes Reagan's famous line about IranContra (my heart says ... but the facts say otherwise and I take responsibility) ...

A$$croft (with impunity STILL) claims not to have time to respond to Leahy's charges ... and plows right on to another sanctification statement related to Reagan ... the look on Leahy's face: PRICELESS!
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Wind Dancer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-04 09:32 AM
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22. It is so frustrating that Ashcroft shows no respect
nor intends to respond to Senator Leahy. He has no respect for anybody that dares disagree, disgusting beyond belief.
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-04 09:30 AM
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19. jesus! asscrack replies: "little girl was forced to wear a hajab" we liber
Edited on Tue Jun-08-04 09:34 AM by ElsewheresDaughter
ated her".....yeah asscrack that justifies all your lies and the death of 30,000 innocents :puke:
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buycitgo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-04 09:34 AM
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23. thanks.....Assface looks very shaky at this point
reciting all the good things they've done...all the terra-ists they've rounded up

looks really tentative......zipping through his script without much conviction.....something I hope he gets first hand experience with, along with the rest of the junta, come about Jan. 22 of next year
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-04 09:36 AM
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24. Why is he in front of the committee today?
Is he being investigated? What's this about? Oversight? Or something more specific?
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jdj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-04 09:36 AM
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25. "President Bush himself disavowed your actions."
God I have waited along time for someone to see AshKKKroft excorciated this way.

We all need to write Patrick Leahy and thank him for all that he just said. God I needed this.

Now the grand dragon is going on about "the war on terra". Wow, he's forecasting doom again. This admin is so stupid, if they drum up another terra-ist attack they will lose by an even greater margin, since that will be two attacks they failed to prevent. DAMN he just said it again, al quaeda planning to hit in summer or fall. How could anyone have confidence in this admin's ability to stop an attack? Look at the one they missed.

This is priceless, he's defending a six-year old's "right" to wear a hijab, as if she has the power and authority to make a choice. What he is really defending is her parents' sovereignty to impose their religion upon her. Wonder what spin doctor thought this would be a good argument. Just when I think I have seen how sick this man is he gets sicker.

Then he said she couldn't vote if under the Taliban, but she might be whipped. He's so out of touch he doesn't understand she could already have had FGM, and that Taliban regularly executed women, if she were not killed by her own family. He's so stupid he doesn't realize how stupid he is.
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jean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-04 09:37 AM
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27. Is ashcroft going to break out in the 'Eeeeaaagles soar 'refrain any
time soon? ( Michael Moore features ashcroft belting it out on the trailer for Fahrenheit 911 )



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BleedingHeartPatriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-04 09:41 AM
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31. LOL
he's reading his statement like a class assignment. By the way,his parting statement (paraphrasing): just because the skies are blue, doesn't mean that death and destruction isn't just a moment away. Don't let those blue skies fool ya. MKJ
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-04 09:38 AM
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28. Time to let Leahy know you liked it. Say thanks
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-04 09:47 AM
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32. Done!
We need more Senators like Leahy!
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LittleApple81 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-04 09:48 AM
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34. Did it right now before I forget. My message:
THANKS! THANKS! for your statements at the Justice Department and Terrorism Oversight session today.

Your dignified statement of solidarity with and respect for Mrs. Reagan was a class act. All the mawkish, self-serving adoration of Ronald Reagan is making the nation even more cynical about our government and its leaders.

I have just watched the beginning of this session, but your list of issues that SHOULD be discussed was excellent.

Again, please receive my gratitude and appreciation for your honesty and care for our country.
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-04 09:49 AM
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35. done!
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BleedingHeartPatriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-04 09:54 AM
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43. Thanks for the link..done
MKJ
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LittleApple81 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-04 09:39 AM
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29. AssCroft: America is not the same it was on 9/11. NO SHIT SHERLOCK!
And I am not talking about terrorism awareness. I am referring to having criminals and anti-freedom terrorists like him in our Government.
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-04 09:49 AM
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36. Holy Crap!!! Leahy on the Bush torture memo!
Go Senator Leahy! He asked for the memo 10 days ago and has never received it. He said asscroft selectivly makes info "classified." WOOHOO! When will I get the memo???
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Spazito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-04 09:49 AM
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37. Leahy is now questioning the leaked memos on torture!
Go Senator!!!
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nostamj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-04 09:50 AM
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38. Leahy back up with TOUGH questions
pissed that a memo he asked for LONG ago was in the WP and he still hasn't seen it
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LittleApple81 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-04 09:51 AM
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39. Can you honestly say you can LISTEN TO ASSCROFT? I cannot LOOK
at him so I minimized my C-Span window. But his voice is enough. He did not need to spend $8,000 to cover the statue's boob: nobody would wish tolook at him... Duh... now I know why he covered the boob.
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LittleApple81 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-04 09:52 AM
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40. LEAHY ASKING ABOUT TORTURE! DIRECT QUESTIONS!!!
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LittleApple81 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-04 09:52 AM
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41. Wow... I don't remember the 4 specific items but Asscroft is trying to
answer now.
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BleedingHeartPatriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-04 09:57 AM
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46. One question from Leahy:
Has there been any directive from the president regarding the use of torture?
Ashcroft: First.."won't answer"
Then: "it would not be appropriate" (when asked if he didn't know or if he was refusing)
Finally: "No order from the president that was ILLEGAL per current treaties"
MKJ
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LittleApple81 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-04 10:01 AM
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50. Sibel Edmonds's name up!!! reclassified info! Grassley (repug) asking!
Edited on Tue Jun-08-04 10:03 AM by LittleApple81
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-04 09:55 AM
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44. Asscroft won't answer..yes or no.
Has there been an order by the prez to torture? Asscroft won't answer. He's LYING!!!!!! He's LYING!!!!! Look at him!
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Spazito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-04 09:57 AM
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45. Wow! The President did sign an order relating to the torture of
the prisoners, Ashcroft admitted it by NOT answering Leahy's question with a yes or no, holy shit!
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-04 09:58 AM
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47. His body language
said it ALL! Bush did it!
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BleedingHeartPatriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-04 10:01 AM
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51. Flop sweat on his upper lip
Now being asked about Dept. of Justice's parameter of operations, and how the dept.'s operations are conducted. MKJ
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BleedingHeartPatriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-04 10:07 AM
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59. Kennedy after him now
"executive privilege is not a legal argument for withholding requested memoranda for this committee."
MKJ

IT'S GREAT!
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BigMcLargehuge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-04 10:00 AM
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48. Ashkkkroft is such a piece of shit
Grassley is asking about retroactively classifying public documents.

Ashkkkroft - "if you can put the split milk back in the jar it's okay..."

ugh.
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-04 10:00 AM
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49. Headline: Attorney General Perjures Himself
/wishful thinking
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nostamj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-04 10:02 AM
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52. they actually mentioned Sibel Edmonds!
too bad this will be totally lost in the Reagasm...
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LittleApple81 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-04 10:05 AM
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55. Don't be so sure. This was a repug (Grassley) asking!
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Walt Starr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-04 10:04 AM
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53. Ayatollah Asscrack needs to be excoriated
and regularly!
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-04 10:05 AM
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56. Kennedy asking tough questions now demanding the release of memos
Edited on Tue Jun-08-04 10:06 AM by ElsewheresDaughter
which have NOTHING to do with "executive privillage" and all to do with "Abu Ghraib" tottures"
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wndycty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-04 10:06 AM
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58. Oh Oh
He just told Kennedy he was not giving the committee certain documents and Kennedy told him he had to.
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buycitgo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-04 10:07 AM
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61. Assboy tried to claim executive privilege on the torture memos
Edited on Tue Jun-08-04 10:08 AM by buycitgo
Kennedy REALLY giving it to him

giving him 72 hours to invoke it, or not

getting VERY hot now

this is great TV!

Asshead now tries to duck it, saying we're at WAR!!!!

just grasping at straws now; backing off the war thing, going back to "impair our ability to communicate within exec branch"
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-04 10:06 AM
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57. Kennedy hitting the torture memo!
Edited on Tue Jun-08-04 10:08 AM by in_cog_ni_to
WooHoo! asscroft is squirming again! Asscroft said he WILL NOT TURN OVER THE MEMO RANDA!!!! He refuses to turn them over because they are "classified"...BULL FUCKING SHIT!!!!!!

Are you invoking executive privilege here? Asscroft will not answer! It looks like he IS invoking executive privilege! Holy shit!
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BigMcLargehuge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-04 10:07 AM
Original message
You meant to tell me you're going to claim executive priviledge?
LOL... Go Ted!
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LittleApple81 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-04 10:10 AM
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65. Asscroft's name now is Croft... his ass was handed back to him.n/t
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Reciprocity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-04 10:18 AM
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78. Kennedy
He has one answer for every question. "We are at war" . I am hoping that the networks will pick up on what Kennedy is accusing Bush of . I'm god and can do anything I damn well please.
This is must watch TV folks!!!
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wndycty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-04 10:07 AM
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60. Now Kennedy is handing him his ass
Yikes!!!
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Simeon Salus Donating Member (618 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-04 10:07 AM
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62. Sen. Kennedy Smacking Ashcroft with a Washington Post article
"You've had 72 hours to think about this. You knew you'd be asked about this... We're entitled to know..."

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Spazito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-04 10:07 AM
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63. Whoo Hoo, Kennedy up now!
If the President signed an order, and from Ashcroft's non-answer to the direct question indicates that the President did, it was NOT given to Congress as is the legal requirement. Wow and wow again!
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BleedingHeartPatriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-04 10:17 AM
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76. My gag reflex is in high gear
Ashcroft's favorite word used several time as he explains that he is using the WAR as a reason to keep this memo and others secret, since investigating the legal ramifications of that WAR during the prosecution of said WAR, is "bad government". Soooo, we (GWB's posse) can do anything because we are at WAR. Think I'm going to do word count on that particular three letter word. MKJ
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-04 10:09 AM
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64. GUILTY AS CHARGED!!!!!
NOW....what is going to happen? How will the committee get the memos????
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Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-04 10:14 AM
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68. Do the go to the courts now?
Or, can a group of citizen's sue for them, since after all, they are all supposed to be our employees.
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LittleApple81 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-04 10:13 AM
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66. Croft assless saying that Bush*'s statement did not DIRECTLY
influence or provided bases for the activity.
The word DIRECTLY is the key here.
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LittleApple81 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-04 10:15 AM
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71. I must re-emphasize: he says DIRECTLY...reading between the
lines Bush* is guilty as sin!!!!!
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Spazito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-04 10:15 AM
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73. Man, he is, in his arrogance, admitting that there was a directive...
Edited on Tue Jun-08-04 10:16 AM by Spazito
and that the President does have the power to change the laws unilaterally. I can only hope his testimony today will be used in the trials of all of them, bush, cheney, ashcroft, etc.
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Zen Donating Member (672 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-04 10:13 AM
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67. We are at war! We are at war! We are at war! We are at war! We are at war!
We are at war! We are at war! We are at war! We are at war! We are at war! We are at war! We are at war! We are at war! We are at war! We are at war! We are at war! We are at war! We are at war! We are at war! We are at war! We are at war! We are at war! We are at war! We are at war! We are at war! We are at war! We are at war! We are at war! We are at war! We are at war! We are at war! We are at war! We are at war! We are at war! We are at war! We are at war! We are at war! We are at war! We are at war! We are at war! We are at war!

He's a moron - who are we at war with anyway? Nobody will ever tell me when I ask.

Asscraft is a giant piece of lying shit.
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-04 10:14 AM
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70. Welcome to DU
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-04 10:17 AM
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74. ktf23t welcome to DU...you'll like it here
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-04 10:14 AM
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69. "Did you order the Code Red?!"
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wndycty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-04 10:15 AM
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72. You want the truth? You can't handle the truth. . .
. . .I see Jack Nicholson in a "FEW GOOD MEN," happening today.
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-04 10:18 AM
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77. Hubby and I could hear the lines from the moment the Abu Ghraib
story first broke.
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Simeon Salus Donating Member (618 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-04 10:17 AM
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75. Deny Deny Deny
It's just the Privates and Corporals!

In the face of all evidence to the contrary, this adminstration rejects discussion of memos that suggest that the President has the legal right to prosecute the war on terror by using terror/torture as a tool to protect the United States and its citizens since September 11, 2001.
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Zen Donating Member (672 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-04 10:19 AM
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79. Well, some republican ass is trying to help Asscraft define who we are
Edited on Tue Jun-08-04 10:21 AM by ktf23t
at war with. It's the War on Terror!! How could I have not known. LOOSERS!!! LOOSERS!!! LOOSERS!!! LOOSERS!!! LOOSERS!!! LOOSERS!!! LOOSERS!!! LOOSERS!!! LOOSERS!!! LOOSERS!!! LOOSERS!!! LOOSERS!!! LOOSERS!!! LOOSERS!!! LOOSERS!!! LOOSERS!!! LOOSERS!!! LOOSERS!!! LOOSERS!!! LOOSERS!!! LOOSERS!!! LOOSERS!!! LOOSERS!!! LOOSERS!!! LOOSERS!!! LOOSERS!!! LOOSERS!!! LOOSERS!!! LOOSERS!!! LOOSERS!!! LOOSERS!!! LOOSERS!!! LOOSERS!!! LOOSERS!!! LOOSERS!!! LOOSERS!!! LOOSERS!!! LOOSERS!!! LOOSERS!!! LOOSERS!!! LOOSERS!!! LOOSERS!!! LOOSERS!!! LOOSERS!!!

War on terror my ass - war on terra per above is appropriate.

Asscraft has got to go - what an good-for-nothing.

Oh, and I do like it here!!
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molly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-04 10:20 AM
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80. They will not get away with this
welcome to DU!
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wndycty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-04 10:20 AM
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81. OH OH Biden gives time to Kennedy to follow-up
:kick:
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wndycty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-04 10:21 AM
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83. Biden just told Ashcroft he may be in CONTEMPT OF CONGRESS
:kick:
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-04 10:21 AM
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85. That's good to hear.
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BleedingHeartPatriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-04 10:21 AM
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87. Biden, luv the guy,
"contempt of congress"!!! MKJ
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LittleApple81 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-04 10:22 AM
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89. Cornyn from Texas I think...Remember Texas is not in America as per
Bush*'s statement. He does not have a right to even be there!!!
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liveoaktx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-04 10:23 AM
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97. That's my POS senator Conehead- enjoyed seeing him get cut off
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LittleApple81 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-04 10:24 AM
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100. And, it should be LOSERS not LOOSERS, like this:
at war with. It's the War on Terror!! How could I have not know. LOSERS!!! LOSERS!!! LOSERS!!! LOSERS!!! LOSERS!!! LOSERS!!! LOSERS!!! LOSERS!!! LOSERS!!! LOSERS!!! LOSERS!!! LOSERS!!! LOSERS!!! LOSERS!!! LOSERS!!! LOSERS!!! LOSERS!!! LOSERS!!! LOSERS!!! LOSERS!!! LOSERS!!! LOSERS!!! LOSERS!!! LOSERS!!! LOSERS!!! LOSERS!!! LOSERS!!! LOSERS!!! LOSERS!!! LOSERS!!! LOSERS!!! LOSERS!!! LOSERS!!! LOSERS!!! LOSERS!!! LOSERS!!! LOSERS!!! LOSERS!!! LOSERS!!! LOSERS!!! LOSERS!!! LOSERS!!! LOSERS!!! LOSERS!!!
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molly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-04 10:21 AM
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84. Go Biden - Go Kennedy!!!!!
go!
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Walt Starr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-04 10:21 AM
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86. HIS ASS IS IN CONTEMPT OF CONGRESS!!!!
FROG MARCH THE EVIL OLD FUCK!!!!
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Beetwasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-04 10:23 AM
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95. The Contemptible Fuck Most Certainly IS in Contempt!!
Haul his ass away and seize his computer and all his files...
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Simeon Salus Donating Member (618 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-04 10:21 AM
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88. "Has the President asked you to invoke Executive Privilege?"
"You may be in Contempt of Congress!"
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-04 10:22 AM
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90. holy shit..Biden just told asscrack he was "under contempt of congress"..
Edited on Tue Jun-08-04 10:23 AM by ElsewheresDaughter
a federal offense...and he has to answer and turn over the memo's
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Reciprocity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-04 10:22 AM
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91. Contempt of congress !! WooHoo! n/t
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John_H Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-04 10:23 AM
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92. HOLY SHIT!! Biden grows a pair!!"
Contempt of congress!
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Spazito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-04 10:23 AM
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93. Whoa! Contempt of congress!
This is absolutely amazing! The President has told Ashcroft not to release the documents to congress. Kennedy nailed him on that!
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Zen Donating Member (672 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-04 10:23 AM
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94. Biden warns "You may be in Contempt of Congress"
Hehehehe - I love it.

He excoriating him but good.

There is no bigger piece of shit that Asscraft so it's a good thing :o)
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-04 10:23 AM
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96. Biden..."Then you are in CONTEMPT of Congress
because you have to give us a REASON for not turning over the memos." Asscroft was asked if he had talked to the prez about the memo? or did the prez ask you to invoke executive priviledge??
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-04 10:23 AM
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98. Has Prez. Issued Order To Immunize Interrogators Of Al Qaeda Operatives?
Edited on Tue Jun-08-04 10:24 AM by cryingshame
Ashcroft- No.

Does Congress have authority to question Ashcroft in a time of war.

Ashcroft "somethings inappropriate for him to say... "
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molly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-04 10:24 AM
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101. Asscrack is sweating bullets - his face is red
how long does he think he can spin and try to change the subject?
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BleedingHeartPatriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-04 10:27 AM
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105. Biden is NAILING him...
Got him on the generic nature of his responses regarding the legal implications of withholding information from a congressional committee. MKJ
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wndycty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-04 10:29 AM
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Boy Biden is hot!
:kick:
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BleedingHeartPatriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-04 10:33 AM
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114. Oh yeah!
MKJ
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molly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-04 10:33 AM
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115. That's why we love him here in Delaware!
Edited on Tue Jun-08-04 10:34 AM by molly
:kick:

Guess who the first guest speaker will be at the Biden Seminars?

Her initials are HC.
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Walt Starr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-04 10:24 AM
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99. BIDEN JUST GOT HIM IN A PERJURY TRAP!!!
Got him on the record stating emphatically Bush gave no order immunizing interrogators when there's a memo in existance contradicting him!
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LittleApple81 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-04 10:26 AM
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102. Isn't it great? That is what dems should do: give up their time
for somebody else's better questions, not play prima donnas
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rumguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-04 10:47 AM
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148. Send Ass's ass to jail - forever....
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-04 10:26 AM
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103. Biden: "you are being very generic, as generic as they come but we're
looking for specifics"
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wndycty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-04 10:27 AM
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104. Ouch!!!!!
That was very very painful for Ashcroft.
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liveoaktx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-04 10:28 AM
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106. * To protect my son in the military-that's the reason we have these
treaties!-Biden

YOWZA
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-04 10:30 AM
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110. now that's a fucking SLAM DUNK!...Biden was RIGHT ON!
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molly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-04 10:29 AM
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107. Uh-Oh talking about Beau!
Biden is VERY upset about his son.
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Simeon Salus Donating Member (618 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-04 10:34 AM
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118. My child has been in worse danger than your child. So there!
This is the Senate? Is this a playground?
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-04 10:29 AM
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108. "Do you believe torture, in a time of war, is justified?"
He won't answer!!! The bastard is as evasive as he can be. He says he condemns torture. Biden...we have these treaties to "protect MY son" in the military. THAT IS WHY WE HAVE THESE TREATIES. WooHoo! Go Biden!
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wtmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-04 10:30 AM
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111. Sessions...what a tool
"Now we can investigate crimes BEFORE they happen!!"

Wonderful...
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LittleApple81 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-04 10:32 AM
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112. Isn't that amazing? ALL OF US WILL END UP IN PRISON WITHOUT
RECOURSE TO PREVENT CRIME!!!!
AND THE PRISONS WILL BE PRIVATIZED!!!!
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BleedingHeartPatriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-04 10:40 AM
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122. Yikes, I'm way behind on my prison sentences
Edited on Tue Jun-08-04 10:42 AM by BleedingHeartPatriot
Can I be imprisoned for possible criminal acts I may have thought about committing years ago, rather than those I'm thinking about possibly committing in the future? What's the thought police statutes of limitations? MKJ
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LittleApple81 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-04 10:41 AM
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126. Better find out, get a lawyer. Amazing!!!!
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BleedingHeartPatriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-04 10:43 AM
Response to Reply #126
133. LOL, think I'll take the GWB approach
and just not have any thoughts at all. MKJ
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-04 10:33 AM
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113. I hate that bastard.
He thought we Americans overreacted to the Abu Ghraib abuses. He's a WH asskisser.
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LittleApple81 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-04 10:33 AM
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116. And he has this whiney, weak voice, like rotten molasses..
Edited on Tue Jun-08-04 10:35 AM by LittleApple81
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BleedingHeartPatriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-04 10:34 AM
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117. Sessions kisses Ash
MKJ
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LittleApple81 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-04 10:39 AM
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121. Brought up the Dems stolen e-mails (on judiciary selections) to
justify Bush* hiding those legal advice memos...Oh, when the shoe is o their foot they immediately agree with the Dems!!!!
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wndycty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-04 10:41 AM
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128. Well I am sure good ole Dick Durbin will have something to say
:kick:
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-04 10:35 AM
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119. d*mn good
i am having an intellectual orgasm, lol lol./

gosh did you see biden, he was gooood
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wtmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-04 10:38 AM
Original message
Feinstein steps up to the plate
Go Dianne!
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-04 10:38 AM
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120. Feinstein's up!
Edited on Tue Jun-08-04 10:40 AM by in_cog_ni_to
She says he's not willing to share the memos. They are an effort to redesign torture. They alter 30 years of interpretation by our body and the Geneva Convention. Will you share the memos? Asscroft....WILL NOT SHARE THE MEMOS!

What NOW????? What happens???? How do they get the memos????? Any attorneys out there on DU??? What happens now???
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slinkerwink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-04 10:40 AM
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124. will there be a federal subpoena to get the memos?
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wtmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-04 10:40 AM
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125. Oh the torture wasn't not PROLONGED...
They weren't starved, electrocuted, or humiliated quite long enough...

:eyes:
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molly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-04 10:41 AM
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130. Whoa he will not make it available - even on a classified
basis. Now she's reading the law.
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Cheswick2.0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-04 10:40 AM
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123. Asscracks says his job is not to define torture
ummmmm it's all the senate and congresses fault.
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slinkerwink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-04 10:41 AM
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129. well, it sure was asscroft's job to create the legal definition of "enemy
combatants" which didn't exist as a term until Bushco came into office.
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-04 10:41 AM
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127. We will give up those memoes when you pry them from our cold dead hands
It would be impeachment time if those memoes were to be made public. Yes, it was approved at the very top, we can assume, from Asscroft's responses.
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wtmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-04 10:41 AM
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131. Feinstein moving in for the kill!!!
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-04 10:42 AM
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132. Feinstein-Will You Make Memo Available On Classified Basis
Ashcroft- No.
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slinkerwink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-04 10:45 AM
Response to Reply #132
138. that shows how fucking guilty they are...what are they trying to hide?
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wtmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-04 10:43 AM
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134. Not back to this PRISONERS OF WAR debate...FUCK YOU ASHCROFT!!!
Edited on Tue Jun-08-04 10:44 AM by wtmusic
This is silly.

The prisoners at Abu Ghraib had nothing to do with al Qaeda...

Read my lips, you fascist pig.
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wndycty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-04 10:44 AM
Response to Reply #134
136. Are the Iraqi prisoners
Al Queda? Is that what Ashcroft is saying?
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wtmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-04 10:47 AM
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144. I don't know WTF he's trying to say
He's trying to get himself out of an impossible spot
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-04 10:43 AM
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135. Ashcroft- Geneva Con. Only Applies Under CERTAIN CIRCUMSTANCES
Al Qeada is not a nation who is party to Geneva Con.

Gen. Conv. not MEANT to apply to Al Qaeda.
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-04 10:45 AM
Response to Reply #135
140. Uniform Code Military Justice Applies EVERYWHERE. Not Geneva Convention
back in Rumsfeld's court.
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-04 10:44 AM
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137. He's trying to say that the Geneva Convention
does NOT apply to Al Qaeda!!!! BUT, he has been saying "we are at war" all morning...Feinstein said. These bastards are GUILTY!!!!! Guilty!!!!! Guilty!!!!!!! Holy Shit!!!!
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molly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-04 10:45 AM
Response to Reply #137
139. Watch the face of the guy directly on the left of the screen
behind asscrack.
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Cheswick2.0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-04 10:47 AM
Response to Reply #139
145. that is funny
talk about shifty eyes. :7
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wndycty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-04 10:47 AM
Response to Reply #139
146. He has been cracking me up all day
He is saying to himself "oh shit."
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LittleApple81 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-04 10:49 AM
Response to Reply #146
155. not only shit but HOLY SHIT!! HOLY SHIT!!! HOLY SHIT!!! N/T
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BleedingHeartPatriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-04 10:48 AM
Response to Reply #137
149. Hmm, the definition of the United States is complex
So, we still have to define the "United States", before we can address the international laws. "United States" is a technical definition as provided by the (blame em, again)US congress. WHINE, WHINE, WHINE. MKJ
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wtmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-04 10:46 AM
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141. Ashcroft stuttering like a little boy with his hand in the cookie jar
He took lying lessons from Junior
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Wilber_Stool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-04 10:46 AM
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142. Somebody will have to
explane what he's saying later. I can't make heads or tails of this.
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Cheswick2.0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-04 10:49 AM
Response to Reply #142
154. he is saying
blah blah blah blah blah
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-04 10:46 AM
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143. asscrack you just fucked yourself & the look on your staffers face befind
Edited on Tue Jun-08-04 10:51 AM by ElsewheresDaughter
you say so...see ya......you are a criminal
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LittleApple81 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-04 10:47 AM
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147. Now he says Al-Qaida Warriors???Warriors???? not terrorists???
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BleedingHeartPatriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-04 10:51 AM
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156. Yeah, I caught that
He's mixing up his Dungeons and Dragons games, with the actual events. MKJ
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BleedingHeartPatriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-04 10:51 AM
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157. sorry about repeat
Edited on Tue Jun-08-04 10:54 AM by BleedingHeartPatriot
posts. MKJ
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BleedingHeartPatriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-04 10:51 AM
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about repeating
Edited on Tue Jun-08-04 10:53 AM by BleedingHeartPatriot
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BleedingHeartPatriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-04 10:51 AM
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158. repeating posts.
Edited on Tue Jun-08-04 10:54 AM by BleedingHeartPatriot
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Spazito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-04 10:48 AM
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150. Ashcroft outright lied about the Geneva Conventions re
High Contracting Parties! The Geneva Conventions also covers those who have NOT signed onto the treaty. Here is the relevant clause:

Although one of the Powers in conflict may not be a party to the present Convention, the Powers who are parties thereto shall remain bound by it in their mutual relations. They shall furthermore be bound by the Convention in relation to the said Power, if the latter accepts and applies the provisions thereof.

Link to Geneva Conventions:

http://www.unhchr.ch/html/menu3/b/91.htm
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-04 10:48 AM
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151. Damn! These fuckers should be before an international tribunal...
..and they know it. They are protecting their asses.
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wtmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-04 10:48 AM
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152. Selective enforcement of G3, when it suits our purposes
:eyes:
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Zen Donating Member (672 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-04 10:48 AM
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153. I'm Meeeeeelllltting!
nm
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-04 10:53 AM
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159. Repuke Craig says he "trusts" asscroft
hahahahahaha! Right! He trusts asscroft to lie for the administration and do everything in his power to keep those memos a secret!
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proud patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-04 10:54 AM
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160. Please continue in thread 2 link here
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