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louis c Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-04 09:15 PM
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Nancy Reagan
This is my first post, so be gentle. Nancy has been a passionate supporter of stem cell research. Her heartache reminds me of the efforts by Mrs. Brady following those tragic events that led to her efforts for gun control. Nancy has been opposed in her efforts for her cause by the present asshole in the White House. He could not risk offending his right wing zealots, so he built obstacles in her path, and blocked her efforts at every turn. Now, maybe she will join other Republicans who don't forget, like Sen. McCain, and secretly work against the Chaney's and Roves of this administration and help through out "Chauncey Gardner" for the good of us all. Isn't that a pleasant thought on this sad day.
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-04 09:17 PM
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1. I said it before in a previous post:
I hope that Nancy could now do what Ronald Reagan never could.
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nini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-04 09:17 PM
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2. Nancy hates the bushes.. I hope she sticks it to Jr.
too bad she had to learn the hard way why research and medical science are so important and need to be funded, but she knows now and hopefully will make some good out of it.
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Snellius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-04 11:37 AM
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17. She claimed she wasn't surprised when "the village idiot" became prez
But does anyone believe her?

It was weird to see George H. W. on all the talk shows this morning claiming what a wonderful friend he was with Ronnie. Perhaps the only redeeming quality of the Great Impersonator was he hated the Bushes.
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NMDemDist2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-04 09:18 PM
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3. sad day? I'm not sad. RR has been dead for at least 10 years
his body just hadn't got the message yet.

While I agree it would be nice if there was some sanity restored to the Republican Party, I doubt that Nancy Reagan will be the spearhead.
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LTR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-04 09:19 PM
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4. Wouldn't it be funny...
...if Nancy supported Kerry for president?

It'll never happen, most likely, she'll keep it to herself.

But it would be kind of a slap in the face to Bushco, wouldn't it?
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Indiana_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-04 09:22 PM
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5. Yes, that is a very pleasant thing to say.
I have been thinking the same thing. Nancy will now be freed to do what she wants to do. She has probably been by his side until now as a faithful spouse would be. Ten years is a long time especially when your spouse can no longer communicate with you. She has probably watched him pass away slowly and this has probably been a great drain on her all this time. My heartfelt praise goes out to her.

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Darth_Kitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-04 09:22 PM
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6. I'll be gentle......
She may be a passionate supporter of stem cell research, but only as it seems to have suited her own personal agenda of aiding her husband. Too bad too many other "good do-ers" were not so lucky to have had so much outpouring of support for THEIR causes........
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louis c Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-04 09:35 PM
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10. Beat Bush
Let's remember our objective here, to beat that asshole in the White House. I will take allies in this cause from wherever they will come. When we needed to defeat Hitler, we allied ourselves with Stalin. Well, that's how I feel this year. Nothing, absolutely nothing is more important than winning this election. When I placed a sticker on my car that reads "Anyone but Bush" I meant it!!
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boobooday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-04 09:28 PM
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7. I appreciate anyone's efforts on behalf of stem cell research
Edited on Sat Jun-05-04 09:31 PM by boobooday
Because I have been insulin dependent for more than 25 years.

A lot of us have believed that Bush was pandering to the religious right on the stem cell thing. BUT, the thought I had today was: who stands to lose if I am cured of my disease? Who will suffer? THE ELI LILLY COMPANY (biggest sellers of insulin -- one month supply for me = $278) that is who. Diabetics like me incur costs of around a thousand dollars a month just to stay alive. Like I said, I have had this disease for 25 years, and barring a cure, hope to survive with it as long as possible. But WHY would these pharmaceutical companies want me cured? Of course they wouldn't. They are making millions from me and others like me. What if stem cell research turned out to cure all those other chronic diseases, like Alzheimer's and Parkinson's? Major losses for the pharma industry.

And now we have the former Eli Lilly executive who was a former Bush appointee running for Governor of Indiana.

The religious right is a screen for the corporate agenda on stem cell research -- that is my theory, anyway. They have NO incentive to find a cure for any of us.

http://www.wgoeshome.com
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-04 09:30 PM
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8. Nancy, as First Lady, got criticized a lot, not as badly as Hillary
but she was raked over the coals a lot. There was the thing about the WH china, about her designer dresses and other things. So she wasn't as beloved by the Repukes like Babs and Laura. I remember some fawning reporter waxing poetically, when Babs became First Lady, remarking on the fact that we now had a "traditional" First Lady. Left out of his remarks were "not like the previous Hollywood slut", but definitely implied.

I think she may become a player. She has a few scores to settle.
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boobooday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-04 09:32 PM
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9. Yeah, Babs. Traditional All-American sea hag!
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-04 09:36 PM
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11. Hey, I didn't say it..
We do know how she raised, or didn't raise, her children. How come they all speak Spanish? Possibly they learned it from the underpaid nannies? They seem to know Spanish better than English. Just food for thought.
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-04 09:40 PM
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12. I remember that too. And more....
she was criticized for consulting with an astrologist, and giving Ronnie advise on foreign policy.

I have heard many times that the Reagan's were no friends of the Bushie's.

There's also some recent posts on Du about how much Jr. speaks very loudly against W.Slams him bad for trying to convince people he's like RR.

We'll see what happens in the next few weeks or so.
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Kipepeo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-04 09:44 PM
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13. Yes
And I agree with the person who said now is a goos time to focus on Stem Cell research and to accentuate the gap between Dubya and the Reagans' on this and otehr issues.
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dryan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-04 11:00 AM
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14. My 2 cents
I feel very sorry for Mrs. Reagan. Say what you will about him as a President, but I really admired the relationship he had with his wife. I think that they really loved each other and it was sincere. One of the few times I think I ever saw RR mad was when Donald Reagan's book came out that disclosed Nancy's astrology use. It was around Mother's Day. RR went on TV and he was furious.

Nancy Reagan was a lot more than a fashion plate. Unfortunately, there was a lot of criticism of poor Rosalyn Carter for attending Cabinet Meetings and briefings so I think that Nancy wanted to get away from that. She didn't have to attend meetings to be a force to be recconded with. I think she was a lot more powerful than people think--or she will admit.

As far as Stem Cell Research goes, I think that she is doing all she can on this issue. She appeared at a fundraiser last month and has spoken openly about it.
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misanthrope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-04 11:19 AM
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15. WAKE UP!!...
...The enemy of your enemy is NOT your friend!

The Reagans were an odious couple who would step on, or destroy, anyone who stood between them and their selfish goals. And most on this board would still be at the top of that list.

Regardless of personal animus, both she and the Bushies would delight in the obliteration of the principles espoused by most here.

For anyone here to even entertain empathy or sympathy for that woman is evidence of how deeply in trouble we are as a nation. In case you don't already know that history is mythology built on half-truths, keep watching. You're seeing it in action.

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Malva Zebrina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-04 11:31 AM
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16. the irony here is that Ronnie refused to acknowledge that AIDS
victims needed help, or even recognition, from the government because they were dying at an alarming pace. He virtually ignored their plight and did so because he thought they were homosexual sinners and deserved it .

Now we have Bush refusing to recognize stem cell research that would most likely help a lot of people suffering from a variety of chronic disease, such as Alzheimers, because it uses sacred fetus cells that have a soul, in it's application.

Now we have the widow of a man who threw mentally ill patients out on the streets, who ignored the plight of those suffering a disease that was fast progressing at alarming rates, with her nose on backwards toward this Bush, because some religion is preventing and did prevent this research and technology to be developed when it might have helped her beloved husband.
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