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mopaul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-04 05:36 PM
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I've waited for this day for 24 long years, now i'm celebrating
Edited on Sat Jun-05-04 05:37 PM by mopaul
i don't care what killed him, alzhiemers or the black plague, i'm glad he's dead and i don't care how many times i'm scolded or chastised for it. the day he took office was the most depressing day of my life, and i swore, that on the day he died, i'd drink a toast of celebration and figuratively piss on his grave and have said so to several gingrich sucking reagan worshipping dickheads.

fuck ronald reagan, and i hope in some small way my fuck you counteracts all the bullshit we are going to be hammered with for a fucking month after the fall of this 'greeeeeaaaaaat human being'.

fuck you ronnie, here's to ya pal. see ya in hell
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mopaul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-04 05:41 PM
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1. woo woo!
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Dees Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-04 05:46 PM
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5. Raise my glass too!
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Lori Price CLG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-04 08:49 PM
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146. Yup, one less Nazi terrorist in the word, w. the death of Ronald Raygun.
Well-said.

Lori Price
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burrowowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-06-04 04:54 AM
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203. If because of his Alzheimer's
he was not of sane mind, he was still complicit in the murder of 200,000 Guatemalan Indians and others, because beforehand he gave consent and promulgated policies that lead to such genocides. Many of Hilter's top people loved their families and pets and were kind to their ilk not to others. They were kind or likable like Ray-gun.
Was living in France during his reign and wondered why Americans were so enamored by him, and to boot Nixon became a 'statesman'.
If we are a democratic republic, what is the onus of the people?
I wonder how they kept him alive so long? Hopefully for him, he has done his purgatory.
But what is the responsibility of the people?
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EdGy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-04 05:43 PM
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2. I second that!
I'm afraid that there are some people who maybe are too young to remember the damage he inflicted on this country and the world, who are buying into the right wing canonization of Reagan as a wonderful, beloved, popular president, the right wing lies and deception and leaving out of all the criminal and evil things he did. He was anything but wonderful and beloved. For anyone who lived through those years and remembers what actually happened, it was eight years of darkness.

So let me join you in your celebration, mopaul.
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fortyfeetunder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-06-04 12:31 AM
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176. I third it!
The Raygun presidency left an indelible mark. Most notably, my original career choice (alternate energy sources) dried up because of that big oil glut. Raygun had no energy policy other than to appease Big Oil. To make matters worse, ended up in another industry and was soon one of the many unemployed, months out of college. It took me years to get back on my feet after that. As I said before, the only good thing about Raygun was he did good job with GE Theater and Death Valley Days...

I hope like hell America doesn't get any false ideas and stand behind another California actor-governor as a potential Presidential candidate...
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Raskolnik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-04 05:44 PM
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3. Is that productive?
Is that the kind of person you want to be?

As much as I disliked Reagan, he was a human being that suffered horribly in the end; I wouldn't wish his condition on anyone.

Be better than them.

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Snoggera Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-04 05:47 PM
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10. Separate the condition from the person
If a person perpetrates "evil" then fuck him.
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Raskolnik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-04 05:53 PM
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22. Humanity is for humans
Whatever you think of his time in office, for the last few years he was a pathetic, sick old man. I take no pleasure in that and I feel sorry for you if you do.

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Snoggera Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-04 06:01 PM
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36. You're not listening
I take no pleasure in anyone's suffering, but an intelligent HUMAN separates the emotion of vicarious grief from the person.

I am not happy he died

I hated his policies. His policies started this country on the road to destruction, and his policies are being carried out by his minion, *, currently.

I don't personally give a shit if he was a pathetic, sick old man. There are a lot of them out there. In fact, I know one right now that has prostate cancer, and no one will treat him with anything other than medications designed to lower blood pressure and therefore shrink it, possibly delaying his inevitable, painful death. He won't have a nation giving him sympathy for having lived an honorable life. He could probably live many more years if the HMO's that control his access to medical care didn't deny him that care.

It was during Saint Ronnie's reign that HMO's came to control the medical process. If it's not financially viable to save someone's poverty laden life, then "let'em go." I wonder how Reagan managed to live 10 years longer than most that suffer from the same illness? Did he, maybe get better care than your grandfather would?
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Raskolnik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-04 11:26 PM
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168. I am listening.
So Reagan did bad things? No shit.

Reagan did very bad things that hurt people? No shit.

Now is not the time to demonize him. From a purely political standpoint, it only hurts our side to look this childish and vengeful right now.
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Tuttle Donating Member (919 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-04 06:13 PM
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54. Reagan's Legacy
Edited on Sat Jun-05-04 06:14 PM by Tuttle
REAGAN'S BAGGAGE CHECK
From "66 Things to Think About When Flying into Reagan National Airport," by David Corn, which appeared in the March 2 issue of The Nation. Corn is the magazine's Washington editor. In February, Washington National Airport was renamed Ronald Reagan Washington National Airport.

=================================================================

The firing of the air-traffic controllers, winnable nuclear war, recallable nuclear missiles, trees that cause pollution, Elliott Abrams lying to Congress, ketchup as a vegetable, colluding with Guatemalan thugs, pardons for FBI lawbreakers, voodoo economics, budget deficits, toasts to Ferdinand Marcos, public-housing cutbacks, red-baiting the nuclear-freeze movement, James Watt.
Getting cozy with Argentine fascist generals, tax credits for segregated schools, disinformation campaigns, "homeless by choice," Manuel Noriega, falling wages, the HUD scandal, air raids on Libya, "constructive engagement" with apartheid South Africa, United States Information Agency blacklists of liberal speakers, attacks on OSHA and workplace safety, the invasion of Grenada, assassination manuals, Nancy's astrologer.

Drug tests, lie-detector tests, Fawn Hall, female appointees (8 percent), mining harbors, the S&L scandal, 239 dead U.S. troops in Beirut, Al Haig "in charge," silence on AIDS, food-stamp reductions, Debategate, White House shredding, Jonas Savimbi, tax cuts for the rich, "mistakes were made."

Michael Deaver's conviction for influence peddling, Lyn Nofziger's conviction for influence peddling, Caspar Weinberger's five-count indictment, Ed Meese ("You don't have many suspects who are innocent of a crime"), Donald Regan (women don't "understand throw weights"), education cuts, massacres in El Salvador.

"The bombing begins in five minutes," $640 Pentagon toilet seats, African-American judicial appointees (1.9 percent), Reader's Digest, CIA-sponsored car bombing in Lebanon (more than eighty civilians killed), 200 officials accused of wrongdoing, William Casey, Iran/Contra.

"Facts are stupid things," three-by-five cards, the MX missile, Bitburg, SDI, Robert Bork, naps, Teflon.

Tut-tut
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Paranoid_Portlander Donating Member (823 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-04 07:30 PM
Response to Reply #54
112. Asset forfeiture...
... for those under suspicion, and sometimes without charges or without a guilty verdict. Something to add to your very comprehensive list. I think the federal asset forfeiture law was passed in 1986.
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sleepyhead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-04 09:50 PM
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152. I've been looking for that article for ages.
Thanks!
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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-04 10:15 PM
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156. Sounds like a Bush influenced agenda...nt
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crossroads Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-06-04 02:13 AM
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198. More of his legacy...
Nancy made a vow to stay at his side for better or for worse, I admire she lived up to it. But, I have no love for Reagan. These are some reasons...

http://liberalslikechrist.org/a-JesusNoRepublican/reaga...
:eyes:
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RapidCreek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-06-04 01:06 AM
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182. Do you take pleasure in all the sick pathetic people
who he threw out on the street when he shut down federal funding for community mental health care facicilties? You know...out on the street...not lying in a comfy hospital bed with the finest of medical care on your tax dollar.

RC
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RapidCreek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-06-04 01:07 AM
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184. You get the humanity that you give baby
and he wasn't a giver...he was a taker. fuck him...let him keep what he stole and die with it, he ain't gettin anymore.

RC
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displacedtexan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-04 05:51 PM
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17. Maybe he should have respected pure research then...
might have helped him, as well as millions of AIDS patients, hemophiliacs and homeless, suffering veterans.
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Raskolnik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-04 05:58 PM
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30. Yeah, he did bad things, you'll get no argument from me.

I'm simply arguing for basic human decency for a sick old man's family. And I'm losing.
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Kipepeo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-04 09:58 PM
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154. I agree with you
I think cheering his death on a public message board accomplishes nothing...adds nothing positive to the world. If you want to point out his failings as a President and the atrocities he's responsible for, that's one thing, and I welcome it and hope that the Democrats in the public eye are able to do that well instead of allowing themselves to be part of painting him as a saint. But to cheer at his passing just seems insensitive to me. Sorry.
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RapidCreek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-06-04 01:14 AM
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185. What the hell do his being sick or old have to do with anything
Christ the fucker was ancient when he ran for president...How does that excuse the fact that he was and is an evil human being?

By the way....what is basic human decency? Define it for me please.

RC
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Raskolnik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-06-04 01:21 AM
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188. Its not about him, its about US.
I'll give you a quick minimum for basic human decency: NOT celebrating the death of a helpless old man like a bunch of idiots. That would be a good start.

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RapidCreek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-06-04 01:44 AM
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191. How is he helpless? He's not helpless, he's got the best help my tax
dollar can buy. You want to see helpless? Take a trip to Chicago and check out the homeless lunatics he and his brethren kicked out on the street. Won't be to many of them living to 93...hell most of them are already dead.

Tell you what....don't lecture me about what to celebrate...the prick in question is directly responsible for the early, needless death of my father....a generous, kind, hard working man, who contributed more to society in a week, than the piece of crap you suggest I should show human decency toward, did in a lifetime.

Reagan died getting pampered in a hospital bed my tax dollar paid for. The same tax dollar he made sure wasn't available for my fathers care.

Fuck your Human Decency pal. I'll show human decency toward those who show it to me.


RC
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Raskolnik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-06-04 01:54 AM
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193. Sorry about your dad.
"Fuck your human decency"

Ah, a reply worthy of the Dalai Lama himself...

Does the death of a pathetic, sick old man help any of the people that were hurt by his policies?
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RapidCreek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-06-04 02:11 AM
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197. I never said it did....I'd like the fucker to live forever
Edited on Sun Jun-06-04 02:14 AM by RapidCreek
and suffer for all eternity the pain and misery he gleefuly, intentionally, inflicted on others.

I would hope that his lovely wife would do the same. As people like them only understand the evil of thier deeds when it is visited upon their doorsteps.

Let her seek forever her own and her husbands salvation by undoing the evil deeds they both let loose on the world. Sadly, an infinate lifespan would not be long enough to complete that task.

If only I believed their was a hell...or at the very least purgatory....alas I do not.

RC


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Dark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-04 06:45 PM
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87. Welcome to DU Raskolnik!
:hi:

And I agree with you. He was a horrible human being, but he still WAS a human being.

My condolences to his family. Hopefully, this tradgedy will cause some conservatives to rethink their values and stop hurting others'
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Raskolnik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-06-04 01:19 AM
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186. Thanks.
Thanks for having me. Its nice to know that at least SOME people have an ounce of sense left.
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gyopsy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-04 07:16 PM
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103. I agree with this statement
I'm not "celebrating his death" that's for sure.
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-04 05:46 PM
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4. when will we see a signature mopaul
cartoon? i need one for my photo tribute to ronnie..shit the guy down the street has a big wooden statue of ronnie in a bathing suit..got to find a digital camera....
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Don_G Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-04 05:47 PM
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11. An Oldie But A Goodie
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-04 05:46 PM
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6. is he dead? not watching the news
?
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rumguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-04 05:49 PM
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13. yes
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-04 05:55 PM
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24. ty....i see that now all the threads
i am not entering another reagan thread from here on out. i swear, lol lol
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bermudat Donating Member (985 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-04 05:47 PM
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7. Goes double for me.
This is the man that made racism fashionable in the 80's. Don't forget he announced his presidential candidacy at Philadelphia, MS the site where 3 civil rights workers were murdered. That was 'code' for all the erstwhile white citizens councils around the country that he would be 'their' man. Now we have to get ready for all the bullsh*t memorials on TV. Gag me.
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Walt Starr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-04 05:47 PM
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8. Well said
I too have been waiting for him to die. I will drink a toast this evening.
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Rick Myers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-04 05:47 PM
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9. Amen!!!
24 years ago a friend and I made a pact to piss on his grave!

The time has come... :evilgrin:
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Tuttle Donating Member (919 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-04 06:16 PM
Response to Reply #9
58. Get in line...
there will a be long one!

Tut-tut
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displacedtexan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-04 05:47 PM
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12. Did the fam euthanize the old Nazi?
Edited on Sat Jun-05-04 05:48 PM by displacedtexan
The freepers will mourn the actor; they had no idea who the man was.


http://ascrivenerslament.blogspot.com/
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NoPasaran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-04 05:49 PM
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14. I am partying right along with you
:toast:
I remember what this country was like before Reagan. I remember all the damage to our society that that sorry sack of shit inflicted. He was a traitor, a criminal, and a warmonger. Fuck him. :puke:
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Kitsune Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-04 05:50 PM
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15. Initiating Operation: Block Reagan From My Psyche With Aqua
Edited on Sat Jun-05-04 05:51 PM by Kitsune
I figure if I listen to "Barbie Girl" a thousand times today, every time I think/hear about Reagan, I'll immediatly begin singing it, and thus be spared from having to think/hear about t3h G1pp4r.

Flawless plan, right?
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-04 05:51 PM
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16. ya i agree
it took me 8 fuck`n years to find a decent job when he was in power-well bush the lesser -. i finally got a decent paying job in 88..then lost it at the end of bushes 4 yrs..he was a oldman who thought america should be like it was when he grew up--he lived in a dream world his entire life...
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-04 05:51 PM
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mopaul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-04 05:52 PM
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20. kiss it
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matcom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-04 05:53 PM
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21. your welcome
now bye bye
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tabasco Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-04 05:56 PM
Response to Reply #18
26. "Let them eat ketchup."
Yep, great guy.
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Arugula Latte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-04 06:46 PM
Response to Reply #26
90. Yeah, and delaying the release of U.S. hostages
for his own political gain. What a guy.
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Straight Shooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-04 05:58 PM
Response to Reply #18
28. Moonbats? Moonbats?
Say "hello" to Nixon for us, Ronnie. Now you'll understand why you got that 666 St. Cloud address in California. A shame you didn't wait until 6/6/2004 to kick the bucket. (numerology fun, 6+6+2004 = 6-6-6)

http://home.mcn.net/~willfree/coincidence/reagan.htm
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ikojo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-04 06:06 PM
Response to Reply #28
48. SOMEWHERE on earth it was June 6! We can take
comfort in that...

Ronald-6 letters
Wilson-6 letters
Reagan-6 letters.

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displacedtexan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-04 05:59 PM
Response to Reply #18
32. Try our spell checker.
It can correct those pesky errors.
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-04 06:26 PM
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67. Why don't you go join your beloved Reagan in hell, asshole?
HE"S DEAD! HE"S DEAD! HE"S DEAD!
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Raskolnik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-04 11:12 PM
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162. hmm...
Wow, that's exactly the kind of reasoned, compassionate statement that will show that progressive liberals are good people.

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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-06-04 02:41 AM
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199. Why don't you go wring your hands somewhere else?
Odd that you chose to join DU today, isn't it?
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-04 07:30 PM
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110. Ha, a class 'B' actor with first class lying abilities
Fuck Ronnie Raygun and the freepers along with this worthless son of a bitch.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-04 07:32 PM
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Puglover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-04 07:39 PM
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119. Bye bye Freeper Boy!
nt
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wtracy Donating Member (218 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-04 08:02 PM
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124. Next to hitler in hell

What reagan "accomplished" was to cold-heartedly assign millions to abject misery. I hope he gets the pole right next to hitler in hell.

My compassion is reserved for the living.
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Cascadian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-04 05:51 PM
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19. I won't celebrate his death as much as I disliked him but...
I am not going to waste my tears either.


John
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ButterflyBlood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-04 05:53 PM
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23. Time for a toast!
:toast:
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Tuttle Donating Member (919 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-04 06:00 PM
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34. couldn't agree more...


Tut-tut
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ikojo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-04 05:56 PM
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25. Raising a can of Mountain Dew Mopaul!!!!
He did much to keep working class kids from affording a college education in the 1980s. He thought ketchup was a vegetable.

An evil man died today and we are supposed to be sad?

Wow! This is why Dems are not in power today. Too mamby pamby. I don't care if it makes me sound like a freeper. I LOATHED the man in life and think it would be hypocritical for me to get all mushy now that he has drawn his last breath.

Without Reagan there would have been no 41 and definitely no 43. He is DIRECTLY responsible for both Bushes.
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displacedtexan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-04 06:06 PM
Response to Reply #25
46. Interest rates were at 16% . Fun times for all!
He probably wasn't even aware.
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psychopomp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-06-04 03:11 AM
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200. Hold it right there
"Without Reagan there would have been no 41 and definitely no 43. He is DIRECTLY responsible for both Bushes."

Yeah, he was a poo stain on the flag, to be sure, but he does not get the blame for the Bushes. It is the American public who elected Reagan and Bush I; it is our own gullible electorate that carries the burden of responsibility.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-04 05:57 PM
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Straight Shooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-04 05:59 PM
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31. He did the harm. And now he's dead.
Thank God. Whatever took God so long, anyway. It's like He doesn't care about earth anymore or something.
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mopaul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-04 06:00 PM
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35. only the good die young, the evil just keep living & living & living...
republicans took kennedy out when he was only a young man. now we're even
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mopaul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-04 06:03 PM
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42. i piss on your precious reagan's grave moonbat, go away
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-04 06:10 PM
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50. Knowing how pissed you guys get when anyone picks on raygun
is making this day even better than than news of his death has made it.

Thanks buddy!
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mopaul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-04 06:13 PM
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53. thanks for the pity, but we're partying
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Ripley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-04 06:14 PM
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55. Did you pity your swell republican friends...
When they called Hillary a murderer?
When they attacked Bill and Hillary's daughter...caller her a dog?
Or how about when they viciously attacked Paul Wellstone's sons for being "too political" at their own god damned funeral for their mother and father and sister?
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-04 06:28 PM
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71. That's ok
we love you too Chumley

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RapidCreek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-06-04 01:19 AM
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187. God I love your posts!!
Short, succinct, to the point....just like a pencil in the eye!!

:)
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-06-04 02:05 AM
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195. LMAO
nice visual :D
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Straight Shooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-04 06:03 PM
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43. The evil that men do lives after them. The good is oft interred ...
.. with their bones. (Shakespeare)

Not much to inter with Ronnie's bones.
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matcom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-04 06:03 PM
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41. can't advocate ANYTHING
in case you hadn't heard, he shit the bed over an hour ago
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-04 06:09 PM
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49. lol...how can one advocate harm or death
to someone WHO IS ALREADY DEAD?

jesus,you people are dumb as bricks.
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eileen from OH Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-04 05:58 PM
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29. Man . . .
I didn't care for the guy as President either, but you are really over the top, and all your hate reflects poorly upon you and DU, by extension. (No doubt it will show up on freeperville and conservative underground, which I'm thinking is what you are hoping. So, congrats, there, pal, on your new status as Poster Child of Hate-Filled Liberals .)

No doubt you don't give a shit what I think either and that's just peachy with me, but I sure as bloody hell wish you'd keep your nasty little celebration and piss and bile to yourself and not post about it for the world to see.

eileen from OH
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Neecy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-04 06:00 PM
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33. yep
I've too said for 24 years that on the day of his funeral I'll celebrate with a box of Cheez-Its and Dr. Pepper. I really need to go to the store tomorrow and stock up.

I feel as much sorrow today as Reagan felt for AIDS victims. Zero. He was a heartless old bastard who allowed the GOP to be overtaken by Christian zealots and permanently divided this country. Rest in hell, Ronnie.
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Kickin_Donkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-04 06:01 PM
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37. I hear ya ...
Ronnie and his gang laid the groundwork for *.

Fuck 'em. No unilateral disarmament.
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indigobusiness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-04 06:03 PM
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39. Are those his feet?
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unfrigginreal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-04 06:03 PM
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40. PARTY!!!!!!!
:party: :party: :party: :smoke:
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-04 06:06 PM
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44. The AIDS crisis is on his head - many died because of Reagan
Reagan did not publicly utter the word AIDS during the first six years of his administration (his first public mention of the disease was made to the Third International AIDS Conference May 31, 1987). The Kaiser Family Foundations Daily HIV/AIDS Report for June 7, 2001 also notes that the San Diego Union Tribune quoted Reagan as telling the conference, Final judgment is up to God. In a 2001 speech at the Kaiser Family Foundations National Symposium on U.S. AIDS Policy, Dr. C. Everett Koop, Reagans surgeon general, said that due to intradepartmental politics he was cut out of all AIDS discussions for the first five years of the Reagan Administrationand that because transmission of AIDS was understood primarily in the homosexual population and in those who abused intravenous drugs, the advisors to the President, took the stand, they are only getting what they justly deserve.

For Reagan apologists to act as if his record on AIDS was anything short of tragic is both inaccurate and deeply offensive to the memory of the 60,000 people who died of AIDS during Reagans presidency, said Shana Naomi Krochmal, director of communications and public affairs for the STOP AIDS Project. At a time when our nation could have led the way in preventing transmission and fighting stigma and discrimination against people with HIV, Reagan offered no leadershiponly silence.

In the history of the AIDS epidemic, President Reagans legacy is one of silence, said Michael Cover, Associate Executive Director for Public Affairs at Whitman-Walker Clinic in Washington, D.C. It is the silence of tens of thousands who died alone and unacknowledged, stigmatized by our government under his administration.

http://www.wctimes.com/gay/lesbian/news/ARTICLE.php?AID...
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-04 06:15 PM
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mopaul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-04 06:16 PM
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57. fuck you
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-04 06:17 PM
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-04 06:17 PM
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62. You took the words right out of my mouth
:toast:
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-04 06:16 PM
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59. That's it - you're out of here
Enjoy your tombstone, you homophobic mysogynistic inhumane freak.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-04 06:18 PM
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Lucky Luciano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-04 06:38 PM
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82. Better shut up
that blood pressure you have right now may very well kill you too!! You wouldn't want people to celebrate two deaths on this day, now would you?
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-04 06:21 PM
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mmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-04 06:31 PM
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74. Hey boi, PARTY UP!!!
You have entered the party room!!!


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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-04 06:27 PM
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Ripley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-04 06:28 PM
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72. What an insult!
Maybe you should wipe the Pabst Blue Ribbon off your chin.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-04 06:31 PM
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mopaul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-04 06:32 PM
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76. don't go moonbat, set fire to yourself first
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Ripley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-04 06:33 PM
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79. He said ta-ta!!!
I think he's one of them queer Frenchie guys.
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mopaul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-04 06:34 PM
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80. hee hee............ta ta.............n/t
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-04 07:35 PM
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117. Got some money sucker?
Edited on Sat Jun-05-04 07:36 PM by 0007
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Carolina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-04 08:02 PM
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125. you and yours are the masters of personal attacks
Edited on Sat Jun-05-04 08:04 PM by Carolina
and just can't stand it when they're dished back at ya.

You're as dimwitted a mental case as your beloved fucktard Bush.
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-04 06:42 PM
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86. I imagine that Rush's cock is getting dry...
shouldn't you get back to work?

FUCK OFF
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-04 07:34 PM
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116. Mods are very busy today - but they got you
Edited on Sat Jun-05-04 07:34 PM by Stephanie


Now you resemble your dear departed leader:



Thanks Mods! :hi:
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Ripley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-04 06:21 PM
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64. Here we go...innocent AMERICAN babies...
Edited on Sat Jun-05-04 06:21 PM by Ripley
You do know the difference between an embryo and a fetus and a breathing baby don't you?

I see you only care about the American ones. I bet only the white boys too.

Who actively promotes abortion? You got a link for that? Oh, I see you equate someone promoting FREEDOM of choice on how to control my own body is promoting one option. Yep you're a smart one.

Go back to your community college Monday and demand a REFUND!
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-04 06:25 PM
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Ripley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-04 06:27 PM
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68. Yes, you're right. All birth control is 100% effective.
You must be a physician. Again, you do not have any facts. But I guess you must be one of those Born Again Christians, like the Boy George King, because you like to say "fuck" as often as possible and make personal attacks on people.
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mopaul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-04 06:28 PM
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70. yeah well yer boy ronnie is STILL dead freep
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LibertyorDeath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-04 06:46 PM
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88. Reagan has shit his diapers for the last time
Nothing you say can detract from this gift from the almighty.

Now if you want an education stay and read a while if you want to remain the ignorant little shit you seem to be go back to your freeptard friends.


http://liberalslikechrist.org/a-JesusNoRepublican/reaga...

Ronald Reagan's Criminal Administration:

Ronald Reagan's Cabinet

"By the end of his term, 138 Reagan administration officials had been convicted, had been indicted, or had been the subject of official investigations for official misconduct and/or criminal violations. In terms of number of officials involved, the record of his administration was the worst ever."



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Carolina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-04 08:09 PM
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128. How should killing a human being be a choice
you say. Geez, what hypocrisy. You're so concerned about the unborn but just love your wonderful Bush who CHOOSES the best of killing machines against the young, the old, the in-between and yes, the unborn: WAR!

Why don't you get off our board and go to Iraq!
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Athletic Grrl Donating Member (551 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-04 06:35 PM
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81. Your ignorance on AIDS
is astounding. But then, I wouldn't expect anything else from a Rushbot. I guess the government cheese and ketchup for school lunch programs failed to build sufficient brain cells in the Freeper trailer trash who took advantage of both in droves.

I'll enjoy your tears next Jan. 20 as President Kerry is sworn into office.

Here's news for you: Ronnie Reagan isn't the saint he's portrayed to be, nor is Bill Clinton the devil incarnate. The truth about both lies somewhere in between and my reaction to both men's deaths will be essentially the same.

Later Freeper.
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-04 06:48 PM
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92. Who are you calling an asshole?
Projecting? Have to wonder why you're still here? One can only imagine the reaction you would be having if it were death of Clinton instead of Reagan. You would no doubt have far worse things to say and the partying would go on much longer then any here will bother with Reagan.
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Kanary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-04 06:06 PM
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45. Putting on my dancing shoes!
Where's that party emoticon....

:toast:

Kanary
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Nite Owl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-04 06:06 PM
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47. No scolding from here.
He was the worse we had until W came along. Shallow, mean and phoney all the way. He didn't end the cold war either. The Soviet Union collapsed from the inside. I hope the Dems have the guts to stop all the monuments that they will want for him.
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senseandsensibility Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-04 06:12 PM
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52. While I won't second everything
you said, I don't condemn you for saying it. It's aginst my religious and personal beliefs to wish anyone dead or take pleasure in their death, but I also don't judge others who do. We all respond in our own way. My personal memories of Reagan are all negative. I was eighteen when he first ran for President, and very apathetic politically. Although I could have voted against him, I didn't bother. In fact, it was worse than that. I went to the polling place with my boyfriend, who insisted on voting that day even though none of our friends were. He wanted to cast his ballot against Reagan. But I waited in the car; I couldn't even be bothered to go in and vote. Such is the stupidity of youth. I do try to remember that when I see uninvolved young people today.
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LiberalManiacfromOC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-04 06:17 PM
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60. As wrong as it may be to laugh at someone who died
I think Reagan actually deserved it. However, I'm not toasting to it. It just doesn't seem right..... But, hey. Like I said, he deserved it by now.
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DoveTurnedHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-04 06:29 PM
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73. This Thread Ain't Nuthin' But Shit (eom)
DTH
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Jose Diablo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-04 06:33 PM
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77. No tears here
Here MO. Have one on me.
:toast:
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symbolman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-04 06:33 PM
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78. So long
you sorry son of a bitch.

I'm sick of the lies and distortion created by this bag of shit and forwarded to the repeater stations all over the world.

remember, REAGAN began the Military Industrial complex shift, he NEVER defeated communism, it ate itself - he had MORE people indicted than any other admin --

he sold weapons to the IRANIANS to support killer death squads in South AMerica..

he lied 110 times that he didn't remember.

the list goes on and on.. bush should be proud of this forebear.. he was the one that started drowning the baby of social programs

if it was legal to piss on Reagan's grave I would gladly do so..

he has no right to be treated humanely as one poster put it so well, you must first BE A HUMAN to be treated as such..

he starved more people that Stalin with all his cuts.

he was and is a monster and is laughing it up with satan today, probably watching direct feed CNN, FOX, etc..

if there was ever a public figure to hate outside of Hitler and Bush, HE is the one..

not a tear, and I will gladly lift my glass with you to day MOpaul, my pleasure!

Fuck you Ron Reagan, burn in hell.
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David Zephyr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-04 06:38 PM
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83. I Cursed Ronald Reagan From the Graves of My Friends in the '80's
Edited on Sat Jun-05-04 06:40 PM by David Zephyr
There is no amount of lipstick that will ever gloss over the hateful, spiteful, cruel and callous response to the AIDS advent from Ronald Reagan's White House.

You may piss off a lot of people here with your thread, Mopaul, but I won't be one of them.

His death today brought me great sorrow...for the friends that I still miss and the stigma that was wrongly associated with their deaths. A stigma that came directly from Ronald Reagan's White House.

For the memories of my loved ones, I have not forgotten Reagan's "legacy".

I will always remember who he was and what he did.

For the rest of my life.
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-04 06:41 PM
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84. Amen David
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unfrigginreal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-04 06:49 PM
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93. Thanks for a great post.
I'm supposed to feel sorry because this evil man died of a painful disease? Trust me, his pain didn't come close to the pain suffered by the friends and partner that I lost to aids...folks that he showed no compassion for.
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Waverley_Hills_Hiker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-04 08:02 PM
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123. Excellent post, David. I will NOT eulogize this man.
He gave power and legitmacy to some real evil shit, and this is his true political legacy.
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Malva Zebrina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-04 06:41 PM
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85. not too many people will grieve forefver over the death of a 93 year old
Man. It cannot be said that he was gypped in any way.

He lived a long life--much longer than many persons who do not have access to health care in this country, for instance. He did nothing to deserve that special care, imo. He had home aides to help Nancy, and that is something many do NOT have in this country. Many and many. Should we investigate how that was paid for, or should we just assume that he had a whole lot of money to be able to pay for home aides for the last ten years of his life? and that his loved ones were relieved of much pain because they had someone else to do all of the work for them.

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rumguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-04 06:46 PM
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89. I just can't figure out what there is to celebrate
He was a human being.

He was old and had a horrible disease.

He was out of power.

The right wing lives on.

They will use his death.

They may very well use sentiments like this against us.

Celebrate! Yeah baby!

:shrug:
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Piperay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-04 07:46 PM
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120. Me either
this changes nothing except to give chimp a chance to tie himself in with the 'glorious ronnie' and gain some sympathy votes. Ronnie was just a living vegetable and of no harm to anyone any longer. I'm not celebrating and I'm not shedding tears either...whatever. :shrug:
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progressivebydesign Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-04 08:52 PM
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148. Rumguy.. you've articulated it for me. N/T
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moondust Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-04 06:46 PM
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91. The world is a better place without him. n/t
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salin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-04 06:49 PM
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94. Classless.
Plenty of time to criticize, bash or worse. But this isn't it. Just as crass when it comes from ourside as when it comes from the radcons.
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Raskolnik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-04 11:15 PM
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163. so far...
You are unfortunately very correct. I signed up just to try to convince people that acting this way doesn't help their cause one bit.

I'm not having much luck so far...
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bacchant Donating Member (747 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-04 06:52 PM
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95. I don't get it, this thread is WAY more incendiary than anything I've
posted. Some fair and smart moderator care to explain this to me?
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progressivebydesign Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-04 08:52 PM
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147. I have no idea why this thread isn't removed. It's an embarrassment. N/T
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Hubert Flottz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-04 06:55 PM
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96. HELL,,,, let's talk about something that really matters!
Smarty Jones just got beat!
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Walt Starr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-04 06:56 PM
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97. I'm a headin' to the store, mo
I'm picking up some lotto tickets and a bottle of FRENCH Champagne!

As soon as I get back, I'm lighting the barbeque and roasting a pork loin!

Party on, Mo!
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mopaul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-04 07:04 PM
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98. will pitt's post...........................
Edited on Sat Jun-05-04 07:05 PM by mopaul
Don't feel like apologizing for how you feel re: Reagan? Post here.


A lot of people got into politics because of John Kennedy, or because they wanted to fight for justice in the civil rights cause. That entrance to politics was a positive one.

A lot of people got into politics because of Vietnam, or because Bobby got killed, or because MLK got killed, or because of Watergate. These were negative entrances into politics, borne of a need to stop outrages before they swamped the body politic.

Ronald Reagan was my entrance into politics, and it was a negative entrance. I remember very vividly this President telling me that my generation would be the one to face the apocalypse, a statement that was one of the most defining moments in my life. I lived under a cloud of fear after that.

My work in politics, for my whole life, has been in the majority an effort to undo the massive damage from the disaster that was the Reagan administration.

Our mainstream media journalism is a joke because of Reagan dereguation.

Our social programs were savaged because of Reagan.

Our environmental regulations, once something to be proud of, were eviscerated by Reagan.

The manifest power of corporations over virtually every facet of our lives came because of the massive deregulations put forth by Reagan.

The AIDS virus found a long, comfortable home in America because Reagan couldn't be bothered with funding research into 'gay cancer.'

Crack owned the urban world, wracked by the aforementioned social evisceration, for years because Reagan couldn't be bothered. Whole generations of Americans died in misery because he couldn't have gven a damn about their problems.

Saddam Hussein was a creation, in huge part, of Reagan.

Same goes for Osama bin Laden, who along with al Qaeda and the Taliban went from being a side project under Carter to a front-and-center priority that led directly to the attacks of September 11, not to mention the African embassy bombings. Those two embassies were destroyed with Semtex sold to Afghan mujeheddin (nee Taliban and al Qaeda) by the Reagan administration.

Dick Cheney was a Reagan creature.

Don Rumsfeld was a Reagan creature.

Paul Wolfowitz was a Reagan creature.

Richard Perle was a Reagan creature.

John Negroponte was a Reagan creature.

Elliot Abrams was a Reagan creature.

Dick Armitage was a Reagan creature.

There was some other guy named George, who spawned an idiot named George, who also came out of the Reagan administration.

If you cannot make the direct 2+2=4 connection between the legacy of the Reagan administration and the goddam intractible swamp we slog through every day today, then I despair of your ability to follow coherent logic.

Am I happy Reagan is dead? No.

Do I have a moment of doubt as to whether or not I should speak the truth of him to as many people as I can reach with my arm? I have not one single moment of doubt.

I'm sorry you feel bad because I don't feel bad enough about this, that I am perhaps being 'disrespectful.' Ronald Reagan was my entrance into politics, and it was an ugly, frightening entrance. The Reagan legacy has been a stain across our national landscape, and my life's work to date has been the process of trying to staunch the bleeding.

If you think I'm going to back off because he's dead, think again. If you don't like it, there's a nifty little 'x' next to this thread. Hit it.

Otherwise, speak the truth here and the Devil take the hindmost.


will pitt wrote it, it's worth repeating
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David Zephyr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-04 07:19 PM
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106. Thanks.
:kick:
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Waverley_Hills_Hiker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-04 10:08 PM
Response to Reply #98
155. Excellent post, Thanks Mopaul & Will Pitt.
I will not honor this man.
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Nimble_Idea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-04 07:08 PM
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99. "fuck you ronnie, here's to ya pal. see ya in hell"
lol
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PeaceForever Donating Member (229 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-04 07:10 PM
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100. Reagan is a human being who died
I hope the cloud of hatred can lift from people's hearts. Let Democrats be an example of integrity to counter the low morals that have too-often been displayed by Republicans in the past couple years.
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gyopsy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-04 07:15 PM
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101. This is sad for DU
I never agreed with the man's policies but "celebrating his death" strikes me as being a little extreme. He had a family and prooved himself to be a good and decent (albeit confused and misguided conservative) human being.

All of you people who are "celebrating" the man's death are fulfilling the conservative stereotypes of liberals as being crazy, stupid, etc.



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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-04 07:30 PM
Response to Reply #101
111. When did this happen?
prooved himself to be a good and decent (albeit confused and misguided conservative) human being.
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Carolina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-04 08:21 PM
Response to Reply #101
133. who gives a fuck what conservatives think
or if we're fulfilling their stereotypes because no matter what we do or say, nice or nasty, we are vilified.

I, for one, am sick of being nice. Reagan's years in power are in large measure responsible for the mess and the creators of the mess we are in today. One helluva leagcy. So what if he has family. The victims of his policies and covert wars had families too!

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Raskolnik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-04 11:17 PM
Response to Reply #133
164. You should.
Who gives a fuck? We should if we give a damn about actually making a change in the country. They're half the damn country, man. We don't have the luxury of not caring what they think.

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Cheswick2.0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-06-04 07:47 AM
Response to Reply #101
215. good and decent? No
He was never good or decent. Even his kids knew what a selfish bastard he was. I am sorry for his family, even Nancy. But he and she were never good and decent people.
Good and decent, that would be Al Gore and Jimmy Carter and even possibly Gerald Ford, but not Rondald Reagan.
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scrotim Donating Member (171 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-04 07:15 PM
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102. hatred and resentment poisons YOUR soul, not Reagan's
Edited on Sat Jun-05-04 07:17 PM by scrotim
I shed no tears for Ronald Reagan, but there's something deeply wrong and unhealthy about the hatred you're holding onto with such glee.

You might consider letting go of it, even as you work to reverse everything he stood for.

I feel the same way about Shrub. His presidency is an abomination, but I don't waste my spiritual energy hating him. If I did, it's just another way he and the Repukes win.

Seems to me RR has the last laugh on you, Mopaul. He haunted you for 24 years of your life.
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mopaul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-04 07:18 PM
Response to Reply #102
105. hee hee, hoo hoo
i'm an asshole, i don't deny it
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scrotim Donating Member (171 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-04 07:21 PM
Response to Reply #105
108. Oh well, in THAT case, enjoy!
self-awareness is important too.

:)
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scottcsmith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-04 07:18 PM
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104. Why stoop to this level?
Great, let's give right-wingers more ammunition to use against us. You can hate the man and his politics, but how about a little sympathy for his family? Can you imagine being the caretaker of your spouse for ten long years, watching as your beloved husband/wife/partner was wasted away by a disease like Alzheimer's? What if it were your father? Watching him fade away to the point where he no longer knew who you were. And now people here are going to dance on his grave and celebrate his death. How ghoulish is that?
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mopaul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-04 07:20 PM
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107. my grandpa died with alzheimer's, so what? reagan was a jerk
i don't care what killed reagan, i don't see why everyone is bashing the word alzheimer's into the ground cause reagan had it. if he'd been run over by a water buffalo, i'd be just as gleeful. i'm an asshole, and i don't care what other assholes on the right side think of me.
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Carolina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-04 08:27 PM
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135. more ammunition?
have you noticed that it doesn't matter. They fabricate ammo if its missing anyway. They vilify us regardless of whether we're nice or nasty. And as for caretaker, Nancy had help big time. Ronnie had health care, he had money, he had connections. Yes, Alzheimer's is horrid but he and his had access to resources many of us never will because of his policies. I am not dancing on his gave but I have no illusions and delusions about the man and I do not mourn his death.
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Zero Gravitas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-04 07:22 PM
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109. My Champagne is staying in the fridge
and it won't come out until Bush* gives his concession speech in November (assuming he has the guts & class to give one, which I doubt.)
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senseandsensibility Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-04 08:13 PM
Response to Reply #109
131. I like your attitude!
This is not some kind of victory for us. Let's keep our eye on the prize! Really, it makes no difference if Raygun is dead. It just doesn't. * is the enemy.
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Walt Starr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-04 10:25 PM
Response to Reply #109
161. I took out the Veuve tonight
The Dom comes out when Bush is out of OUR White House.
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Angelus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-04 07:31 PM
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113. A toast for mopaul!
I couldn't have said it any better myself!

Burn in Hell, Reagan. You won't be missed.
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mopaul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-04 07:33 PM
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115. the ridiculous war on drugs began under reagan
and has imprisoned millions of non violent citizens and goes on to this day without him
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rl6214 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-06-04 01:51 AM
Response to Reply #115
192. Are you saying
that anyone convicted of any drug related crime should not be imprisoned?
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-04 07:37 PM
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118. hell is one citizen richer today
:toast:
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TheMightyFavog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-04 07:55 PM
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121. ENOUGH OF THIS HATRED SHIT!!!!!!!!!! ENOUGH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Edited on Sat Jun-05-04 07:58 PM by JonathanChance
You people who are spewing all of this hatred against Reagan on the day of his death are doing nothing more than giving the Freepers, the hate radio jocks such as OxyRush, Insanity, Savage Wiener, and others ammunition to use against us on their next broadcasts.

I beleive EVERYONE here on DU needs to lay off these uncalled for attacks. Another DUer here said it best: There is a time and a place for criticizing Reagan's policies. Today is not the day to do it. Let them have their day of mourning.

Those of you who feel as if they have to insult Reagan on this forum today should just log off, go to a movie, play with your children, read a book, make love to your partner, or go out for something to eat and let it get out of your systems.

We should be adopting a civil attitude towards the death of Ronald Reagan, we should be taking the high road, not the low road that many repukes took after the deat of Seantor Wellstone.

I am so dissapointed in DU today.
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Neecy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-04 08:04 PM
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126. really?
I have shocking news for you: the right-wing needs little more than our existence as 'ammunition' to use against us.

We could be having a Reagan lovefest here today and it wouldn't mean a crap. They hate us for opposing fascism and a dictatorial one-party state. They hate us for our beliefs, and nothing in the world will make them 'like' or 'respect' us.

So why worry? Who cares? They'll put us through their garbage disposal whatever we say or do. I've stopped worrying about what these Nazis think.
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Arkana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-04 08:26 PM
Response to Reply #121
134. I'm with you on this one, but...
I'm conflicted.

First, I have to admit that there are some DUers here today who are shocking me with their Freeper-like insensitivity. The man is dead. Let him sleep.

But I also have to admit that the jocks of radio like OxyRush, Insannity, and others will rip on us no matter what. So what difference will it make when they harp on the opinions of a private website?
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Carolina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-04 08:38 PM
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137. for the third time on this thread
let me state that what we say or do -- respectful or disrespectful, civil or hostile, nice or nasty -- DOES NOT MATTER. Freepers, Rush, FOX ... they all make up shit anyway. So we throw 'em a bone with this post. Does it really matter? NO because they VILIFY us anyway, in everyway, no matter what we say.

I don't give a shit about them or about Reagan. I'm drinking with you, MoPaul and damn it feels good.
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mopaul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-04 08:39 PM
Response to Reply #137
138. woo woo!
they can all kiss my celebrating ass, i've held this in for a quarter century and i'm not holding back.
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EdGy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-04 09:47 PM
Response to Reply #121
151. Reagan was a criminal
Would you be saying this if it was Saddam Hussein or Hitler who died?

Somehow I doubt it.

Reagan was a criminal. Maybe you weren't around or weren't paying attention during the eight years he was running this country. But he did tons of enormous damage both at home and abroad. He was responsible for death squads in Central America. Did anyone in this country mourn for the innocents who were tortured and murdered there because of Reagan? a few, yes but mostly no. And that is just ONE tiny example of the damage he's done to the world.

And as someone above pointed out, the freepers don't need any excuse at all to attack us. If we are always afraid of what they'll say or do we'll say nothing and they'll still attack.

The key thing here is to make sure that everyone knows EXACTLY what and who Reagan was, what he did, all of his crimes. Because now is EXACTLY the time that the right wing spin machine is gonna be cranked up on high, spinning out tons and tons of bullshit about "saint ronnie."

Your "request" is inappropriate. If you can't deal with the truth maybe you're the one who should log off and go do something else.
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immoderate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-04 10:16 PM
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157. People cheered when Ouday and Cousay became Eadday...
They were human beings too...well, in the same way that Ronald Reagan was a human being.

I can really celebrate the death of anyone I didn't face in hand to hand combat myself. But his being dead doesn't give him a pass for the miserable human being he was and I can't suddenly find nice things to say.

To be consistent there were a couple of movies of his I enjoyed.

--IMM
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Waverley_Hills_Hiker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-04 07:58 PM
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122. I love it..my thoughts excatley!!! Lets toast!!!!
Mopaul, Ive ben posting the same thing.

In fact when I found out I popped the cork on some fine German wine and am celebrating his demise.

Lets toast!

To Ronald Wison Reagan!

May you rot in hell you evil old rightwing fuck!

>clink<

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dogman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-04 08:06 PM
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127. OK, I'm not celebrating his death, I'm celebrating the death
of my hatred for him. He's not here to hate now, so I can now devote my hatred to his legacy, the current bunch of elitist killers in the White House. This criminal oversaw the first Evil Empire. Don't forget that!
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-04 08:09 PM
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129. Deleted message
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mopaul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-04 08:11 PM
Response to Reply #129
130. busted
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SaveElmer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-04 08:40 PM
Response to Reply #130
139. As I said
I don't care...your post was classless an uncalled for...and unfortunately seems to be very popular.
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Zinfandel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-04 08:20 PM
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132. I lived under the asshole Reagan's rule for sixteen long years!
Edited on Sat Jun-05-04 08:53 PM by Zinfandel
(I posted this elsewhere on DU, and I'm too stoned right now to write a new one, and the prick Reagan doesn't deserve a new post from me)

So the lying conservatives had nothing to show for eight years of Reagan's pigs getting rich and fucking over everyone else and now they still insist and keep trying to pin the tag that... "Reagan all by himself brought down the Soviet Union" WHAT LYING & COMPLETE BULLSHIT!!!!

The asshole Reagan did nothing but fuck over the poor and middle-class, catered to the rich and began massive deregulation of the corporations during his time in office...The true beginning of fascism in this country and the same racist, lying, corrupt greedy pigs are in the Bush administration today!

The asshole Reagan did no more than any other president starting back with Truman, then Ike, Kennedy, Johnson, Nixon, Ford, Reagan & Pappy Bush, to bring down the Berlin Wall and force change in the USSR.

Each of the presidents mentioned above, increased the US military defense budgets and bought new and more technologically advanced weapons systems.

This is fact. It wasn't just the asshole Reagan, the USSR was going down slowly before Reagan ever became president.

Carter for instance, increased the US military budget 5%, each of his four years in office (and just like they do now against democrats, the republicans successfully lied, saying Carter was weak on defense, same old shit and that's the tactics and lies Reagan used to win against Cater).

Actually the official fall of the USSR occurred during Pappy Bush's administration, not under Reagan's.

Clinton was the first president to significantly cut defense spending...Freaked out the weapons makers, the Pentagon, right-wing fascist, etc...

Had to come up with a new enemy...and quick, to get those bucks back and flowing again...

TERRORISM!!!






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Jose Diablo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-04 08:30 PM
Response to Reply #132
136. Yep and you noticed when Clinton cut the military spending
what the economy did. We had the best economic times ever. Because money was going into the private sector for investment.

We hear about what a disaster it is for towns by military bases when the budget is cut. Horsepuckey.

Money spent on military above a certain amount is money thrown down a toilet.
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Liberal Veteran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-04 08:41 PM
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140. Respectable silence costs nothing.
And makes a better statement that dancing on the grave before the body is even cold.

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SaveElmer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-04 08:42 PM
Response to Reply #140
141. Right on...nt
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Zinfandel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-04 08:44 PM
Response to Reply #140
142. Your fucking wrong!!!! Celebrate folks!!! Fuck all republican fascist!!!!
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Liberal Veteran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-04 08:48 PM
Response to Reply #142
143. And doing so makes you better than the opposition, how?
Edited on Sat Jun-05-04 08:48 PM by liberal_veteran
I just don't see anything to be lost by showing a bit of decorum.
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Zinfandel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-04 08:49 PM
Response to Reply #143
145. It makes me no better, dude...But it makes me fucking happy!!!!
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hippywife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-04 10:19 PM
Response to Reply #145
159. Then I respectfully request
that you remove your Kucinich avatar. This is not the spirit of the man.

To all here that are celebrating, Reagan hurt many people by his policies. But his family now suffers his loss as a father, a husband, a grandfather. Everyone is precious to someone in this world regardless of their faults.

Those that wish him and his family this much venom at this the time of his death are the lesser for it. You don't have to agree with the deification that will surely come, but you don't have to add to their misery, either.

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Zinfandel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-04 11:25 PM
Response to Reply #159
167. Again, there are many here who are not aware of Reagan's deed's...
Edited on Sat Jun-05-04 11:33 PM by Zinfandel
and many need to be reminded and want to be reminded, or be informed and want to truly know the truth and the facts about Reagan and his right-wing extremely actions, policies and ideology...

That they will NOT get this from television.

And again, once more...People want and need to be informed of the facts, not the bullshit!!!

That they are being fed on television...Reagan was a ultra-right-wing, lying, anti-choice, environmentally destructive, union bashing, poor hating, de-regulating corporatism loving, imperialistic old fool. (And I'm being gentle here, because he died).

Being informed and getting the TRUTH is what this DU forum is suppose to be about...

Surely not sentimentality.

Gee, I wonder if it was wrong to tell the truth after the pig, J Edgar Hoover died, or Hitler, or any other right-wing fascist???

No one here is wishing the family any "venom" certainly not I--just reminding of the real Reagan and his awful, terrible, cold-hearted deed's and policies...





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hippywife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-04 11:32 PM
Response to Reply #167
173. Making people aware of his policies
is one thing but to openly celebrate his death as many here are is truly sad.

I hold no praise for the man but I don't dance with glee over his or anyone's death.

And I would imagine, no I know for a fact, that the man we both worked for and admire greatly would be saddened by this attitude.
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Zinfandel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-04 11:44 PM
Response to Reply #173
174. Perhaps, "Celebrate" was a bad choice of words...I only want to inform
Edited on Sun Jun-06-04 12:04 AM by Zinfandel

and remind of the facts and to NOT discourage anyone from doing the same. "Celebrate", was more in the spirit of don't be stifled by sentimentality in place of the real and hard facts, as so many here find it easy to do. Just watch the lies and bullshit we will be avalanched with up to and after the funeral.

This man hurt and destroyed many lives and this too needs to be spoken and written about.

As I mentioned this will NOT be brought out on the non stop 24 hour corporate news channels for the coming days and month's.

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Raskolnik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-04 11:21 PM
Response to Reply #145
165. Its not always about your happiness.
If you have the choice (and you do) between keeping your mouth shut after a person dies and opening your mouth just to spew bile, I think you know which one you should pick. Regardless of whether it "makes fucking happy"
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IranianDemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-06-04 01:22 AM
Response to Reply #142
189. Fuck all republican fascists?
My brother is a republican and I would take his carcass over your living body any day of the week.
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-06-04 02:06 AM
Response to Reply #189
196. ooooo,can I take his carcass too?
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Lori Price CLG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-04 08:48 PM
Response to Original message
144. Well-said!
Iran-Contra Reichwing terrorist Ronald Raygun is dead, and the only downside is his death will engender GOP support on s-election day. His death only helps to serve Diebold...

-Lori Price

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ContinentalOp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-04 09:22 PM
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149. End of an era?
Edited on Sat Jun-05-04 09:22 PM by ContinentalOp
:toast:

Here's hoping that this event stands as the symbolic death of fascism in America!
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mopaul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-04 09:24 PM
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150. gloating over reagan's death? it's just a fraternity prank,
just letting off a little steam y' know.
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ContinentalOp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-04 09:53 PM
Response to Reply #150
153. LOL!
:)
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Amaya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-04 10:18 PM
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158.  I'm NO lover of Reagan's politics
Edited on Sat Jun-05-04 10:23 PM by Amaya
I do believe hatred is destructive and ugly to the bone. I will not toast to death ... of anyone.

Edit: grammar
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soggy Donating Member (222 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-04 10:23 PM
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160. worst. post. ever.
totally classless. congrats.

if bush gets a small short-lived bump for this, then so be it. ronnie was twice the president he is, and if people here can't seperate the man from the politics even after his death, then that doesn't give me much faith in our party.
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Raskolnik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-04 11:22 PM
Response to Reply #160
166. Yup.
Agree. Very much.
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mopaul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-04 11:27 PM
Response to Reply #166
170. yeah right, two newbies in a row
i know the deal
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Raskolnik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-06-04 12:32 AM
Response to Reply #170
177. ?
I'm sorry, I don't know what that means.
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rl6214 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-06-04 01:58 AM
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194. I'm not a newbie
and I think this whole thread is classless...
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-04 11:27 PM
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-04 11:28 PM
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raycyrx Donating Member (2 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-04 11:31 PM
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172. Are you saying that this thread ISN'T...
malicious?
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-06-04 12:48 AM
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179. Make it 3 Mopaul
:D
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Chomskyite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-06-04 12:02 AM
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175. Yep, go ahead, behave exactly how the Freepers want you to
And get us all besmirched with your lack of class by association. Thanks a lot.
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Walt Starr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-06-04 12:38 AM
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178. You just don't get it, do you?
It doesn't fucking matter what we do or say. They want to line us up for the gas chambers any way no matter what.

If all there was were threads praising the evil fuck all day long, it wouldn't change the fact that about a third of this nation would kill you as soon as look at you because you're a Democrat.
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-06-04 12:49 AM
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180. extra points for using the word "besmirched"
unfortunately you lose all those points by giving a shit what the Freepers think :spank:
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mopaul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-06-04 07:19 AM
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210. yes, i'm a freeper, reagan still sucks though
Edited on Sun Jun-06-04 07:37 AM by mopaul
lack of class right .. reagan still sucks
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Jose Diablo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-06-04 07:33 AM
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211. Morning mopaul
Ya know, I feel pretty good now that RR is gone.

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mopaul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-06-04 07:36 AM
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212. yeah it's morning in america now
i feel as if a great evil is gone from the land
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Jose Diablo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-06-04 07:40 AM
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214. Threads too long
Why not start another to focus on what to do next, now that the stench from reagan is gone.
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Raskolnik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-06-04 12:50 AM
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181. I'm posting this all over in the hopes that people come to their senses.
When my hero Paul Wellstone died a few years ago, the progressive liberal movement lost someone who they viewed as a champion and an icon. Some conservatives took the opportunity of his passing to mock his ideals and score cheap political points at his expense. They were terrible people for doing so.

Some conservatives, however, simply stated that although they disagreed with many of his political decisions, Wellstone was a man of his principles and at the moment it was simply a time to mourn a human being's passing and give condolences to his family. In particular, Rush Limbaugh showed restraint and behaved appropriately (surprisingly enough).

My question to those here at DU is this: if we can't be at least as good as that piece of garbage Limbaugh, what good are we? I LIKE being able to categorize liberals as the more humane and generous political group. I don't want to give people reason to doubt that.

I am NOT asking people to forget Reagan's many ill deeds. History will remember him appropriately, I believe. However, there is a time and place for attacking a man and his politics. The day of his death is not that day. We do ourselves and our cause a disservice when we descend into this kind of childish, ghoulish gloating at a man's death.
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ScreamingMeemie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-06-04 01:07 AM
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183. Too late.
:(
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wellstone_democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-06-04 01:28 AM
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190. I drank a lot at dinner
I also didn't turn on any cable station that had news and don't plan to for a week or so. I'm going to be an expert at home remodeling and redecorating by the time the hysteria over this event ends in the public sphere!

I imagine that the "naming" committee is going to go *wild* now. Not only National airport and every other damn building but Mr. W_D just said he thinks they might start retroactively re-naming one boy in every family after their "god" Ronald Reagan. NOTHING would surprise me.

Personally, I had a *lovely* evening and as long as I don't have to pretend I give one hot damn that that villain is gone, I'll continue to have a lovely time...
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yorgatron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-06-04 03:39 AM
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201. right the fuck on!
time to celebrate :party: :toast: :bounce:
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VOX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-06-04 04:37 AM
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202. There is no honor in this.
An enemy is dead, horrible as he was. He has, in fact, been gone for 10 years. Yes, his legacy is horrifying, but there is no honor in a warrior mocking a terrible enemy.

Our fight is with the living -- they are the ones trying to bury us.
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noiretextatique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-06-04 05:08 AM
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205. who is a warrior?
he was just a man, elevated to a stage far beyond his skill. there is no honor in pretending he is more than that. many people died today...some were probably worthy of all the type this man is getting.
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VOX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-06-04 05:27 AM
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207. All progressives are the "warrior."
I agree with every thought in your post, BTW.

I was thinking in terms of the manner in which some bygone cultures did not speak ill of their most hated enemies after they died. Did you see the film "Gangs of New York?" Daniel Day-Lewis' character went so far as to keep a shrine to his fallen arch-enemy.

I'm certainly not suggesting anything that extreme, but right now, the less hatred and intemperate speech exhibited by Democrats and progressives, the better it would be for our cause, IMO.

:toast:
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noiretextatique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-06-04 05:31 AM
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208. you know...the truth is sometimes painful
and in america, it seems we there is never "the right time" to speak the truth...one of the reasons why we are where we are right now.
other than that...you speak with much wisdom, and i appreciate your sentiments. :toast:
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JCMach1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-06-04 05:05 AM
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204. MY take on the demise
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mopaul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-06-04 07:39 AM
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213. thanks for the history lesson on reagan, some folks forget....
that he was the ruination of our country. he deserves no respect, not alive, not dead
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Josh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-06-04 05:19 AM
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206. And in one swoop, we become as bad as them.
They celebrated Paul Wellstone's death at Free Republic.
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noiretextatique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-06-04 05:33 AM
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209. paul wellstone was no ronald reagan eom
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Gore1FL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-06-04 08:07 AM
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216. No but we are no freepers either
Compassion for our fellow man is part of being liberal.

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Retired AF Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-06-04 09:24 AM
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217. Damn, I can't remember the name of the song or the group
"I know there is no heaven and I pray there is no hell." Pray there is no hell, anybody that can harbor so much hate just might end up burning in hell alongside Reagan.
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Spiderm0n Donating Member (33 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-06-04 09:30 AM
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218. utterly disgusting
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mopaul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-06-04 09:31 AM
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219. i know, i'm so ashamed of myself..................
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Charley_Dog Donating Member (32 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-06-04 09:35 AM
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220. "...see ya in hell."
I think you have assured that outcome.

All you've done is to reveal what kind of person you are. We already know about Reagan's failings. Now we know yours.

Sad.
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Skinner ADMIN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-06-04 09:36 AM
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221. Well, that was fun.
After 200 replies, I think it's time to put this particular thread to rest.
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