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keithyboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-01-04 11:49 AM
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I really think the neocons will pull this off despite the continuous death
of our soldiers, despite the havoc we are wreaking on Iraq and have done since 1991, despite the prisoner abuse, despite our continuous lying...they are going to pull this Iraqi "liberation" off by turning it all over to the "irrelevant" UN and blaming the blowback on Kofi Annan and the UN. The American public will accept it as a victory because they don't want to admit to mess we have made and the rest of the world will accept it because they don't want to have anything else to do with it. We get what we deserve. This has been another "MISSION ACCOMPLISHED" Day.
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PROGRESSIVE1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-01-04 11:52 AM
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1. Then Douchbag Tom Clancy can write a "novel" about...
how great *'s "victory" is!

:puke:
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stinkeefresh Donating Member (563 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-01-04 12:11 PM
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8. considering Clancy's new novel is being written with
Anthony Zinni, I'm not sure Clance is a fan of Bush's work.
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jean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-01-04 12:23 PM
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11. Clancy almost came to blows with Richard Perle, pre-war -
'In discussing the Iraq war, both Clancy and Zinni singled out the Department of Defense for criticism. Clancy recalled a prewar encounter in Washington during which he "almost came to blows" with Richard Perle, a Pentagon adviser at the time and a longtime advocate of the invasion.

"He was saying how (Secretary of State) Colin Powell was being a wuss because he was overly concerned with the lives of the troops," Clancy said. "And I said, 'Look ..., he's supposed to think that way!' And Perle didn't agree with me on that. People like that worry me."

Both Clancy and Zinni praised President Bush but would not commit to voting for him. Clancy said that voting for Sen. John Kerry, the Democrats' presumptive nominee, would be "a stretch for me," but wouldn't say that he was supporting Bush.'


http://www.cnn.com/2004/SHOWBIZ/books/05/25/author.and.... /
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KissMyAsscroft Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-01-04 11:55 AM
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2. I disagree..


The UN doesn't want any part of this.

Unless Bush infiltrates the UN and makes it an AMerican puppet organization, they will never agree to the insane American conditions.
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NewYorkerfromMass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-01-04 11:55 AM
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3. and then what do they do about the economy?
I hear inflation is revving its engines.
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wildwww2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-01-04 12:03 PM
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6. 2 sticks of butter I bought last week. Was 80 cents more today.
I would say inflations engines are running smooth enough.
Peace
Wildman
Al Gore is My President
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cestmoi Donating Member (211 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-01-04 12:00 PM
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4. Because of oil the US can't afforrd to let Iraq disintergrate.
The US can't in any way walk away from Iraq. Already you can see the effects of distabilization on oil prices. This monkey on their back is not going to be gotten rid of.
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cestmoi Donating Member (211 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-01-04 12:00 PM
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5. Because of oil the US can't afforrd to let Iraq disintergrate.
The US can't in any way walk away from Iraq. Already you can see the effects of distabilization on oil prices. This monkey on their back is not going to be gotten rid of.
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maggrwaggr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-01-04 12:15 PM
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10. yeah? Do you want to get shot in order to "stabilize" it?
If not, then shut the hell up.

Do some research. Read the latest Harper's article about the insurgency. These people are gonna kill American soldiers as long as there are American soldiers in their country.

In other words, there's no fucking such thing as "stabilization" of Iraq. It's probably as stable as it's ever gonna get right this damn minute.
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cestmoi Donating Member (211 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-01-04 12:24 PM
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12. That my dear is why it's a quagmire. The US is screwed whether it
stays or leaves. However since oil interests are paramount importance to corporate powers and lives of soldiers are worth dirt, the US will stay.
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htuttle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-01-04 12:04 PM
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7. Let's look into the old crystal ball, shall we?
Here's one interesting thought: What is the new Middle East going to look like when the mullahs in Iran control TWO countries instead of just one? Will this new 'Persian Bloc' change the balance of power in OPEC to offset the influence of the few remaining US Friendly members?

Ya, ya -- "MISSION ACCOMPLISHED", sure, but who's mission?

The phrase 'Pyrrhic Victory' was coined JUST for moments such as these...

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sushi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-01-04 12:13 PM
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9. What victory
The whole world knows it's a disaster. Iraq is a mess. Once the coalition has really left the Iraqis will do what they want, and that's the way it should be, because it's their country.
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