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Eloriel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-31-04 05:59 PM
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Deja Vu All Over Again -- Bush1 1980 Campaign and much more
This page came up in a Google search I was doing on something else, it's Chapter 17 of Tarpley's Unauthorized Biography. Very instructive reading. It covers some of the antics and players (incl various CIA assets) in Bush's 1980 campaign, how Bush got selected as Reagan's VP, the October Surprise and much more. Many familiar names.... Lengthy, but definitely worth reading -- especially in light of Bush2 and his "re-election" campaign, what they're capable of, etc. (One of these days I'm going to have to actually read this whole Tarpley book.)

http://www.the7thfire.com/bush16.htm

Here's a little tease which IMO shows how deceit and propagandistic lies, as well as defense of the indefensible run in the family (they're really got it down to a fine art):

But first let us review some of Bush's public activities during the pre-campaign interlude. In April, 1978 Bush appeared along with E. Henry Knoche and William Colby at Senate hearings on proposed legislation to modify the methods by which Congress exercised oversight of the intelligence agencies. The bill being discussed had a provision to outlaw assassinations of foreign officials and to punish violations with life in prison. The measure would also have prohibited covert operations involving "torture," "the creation of epidemics of diseases," and "the creation of food or water shortages or floods." Bush and Knoche both objected to the ban on assassinations (which Colby accepted), and both were critical of the entire bill. Knoche said his fear was that if enacted the bill might create "a web woven so tight around the average intelligence officer that you're going to deaden his creativity."

Bush denounced the Senate bill for its "excessive" reporting requirements. "The Congress should be informed, fully informed, but it ought not to micro-manage the intelligence business," protested Bush. He was especially indignant about a provision that would have required notification of the House and Senate oversight committees every time a US intelligence agency wanted to stipulate an agreement with a foreign intelligence agency, or domestic security service. "I don't believe that kind of intimate disclosure is essential," said Bush. Bush was convinced that "some US sources are drying up because foreign services don't believe the US Congress can keep secrets." This, from the man who had leaked the Team B report to the New York Times, and then had gone on television to say that he was appalled.

Bush urged the senators to drop language in the bill that would have severed the DCI post from the CIA. Bush warned vehemently that an intelligence czar sitting in the White House "and separated from his CIA troops...would be virtually isolated. He needs the CIA as his principal source of support to be most effective. And the CIA needs its head to be the chief foreign intelligence adviser to the president."

A few months later he participated in a singular round table organized by the Washington Quarterly of the Georgetown Center for Strategic and International Studies with none other than Michael Ledeen as moderator. (Ledeen, who vaunted intimate connections to Israeli intelligence, was later one of the central figures in the mid-1980's acceleration of US arms shipments to Iran.) In this round table, Bush was joined by former DCIs Richard Helms and William Colby as well as by Ray Cline.

According to Bush there was "an underlying feeling on the part of the American people that we must have clandestine services." Above all he regretted "that some of the thrust of the legislation before the Hill is still flogging CIA for something that was long corrected, or that never happened." Even Hollywood was against the CIA, Bush thought, "and you get movies and television programs and it has a very sinister kind of propagandistic overtone." Here Bush wanted to defend his own record: "I'll give you one example that happened on my watch: One of these rather ribald magazines described a purported destabilization effort against Manley in Jamiaca." "But," said Bush with that self-righteous whine, "it never happened. There wasn't any truth in it."

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Eloriel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-31-04 09:02 PM
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1. Oh, shoot -- no one interested in this at all?
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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-31-04 09:04 PM
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2. Glad to See Ya, Elorial! n/t
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-31-04 09:04 PM
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3. I am interested.
Got it bookmarked and will read it in due time. In the meantime, another :kick:
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-31-04 10:11 PM
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4. Another
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NecessaryOnslaught Donating Member (691 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-01-04 01:49 AM
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6. once more
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NecessaryOnslaught Donating Member (691 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-31-04 10:12 PM
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5. Is the CIA working on Jr's campaign too?
According to one estimate, at least 25 former intelligence officials worked directly for the Bush campaign. As Bill Peterson of the Washington Post wrote on March 1, 1980, "Simply put, no presidential campaign in recent memory--perhaps ever--has attracted as much support from the intelligence community as the campaign of former CIA Director George Bush."

According to an unnamed former CIA deputy director for intelligence who allegedly talked to Rolling Stone magazine in March, 1980, "the Bush campaign is, I think, embarrassed by all the crazy spooks running around trying to help them." Another retired top spook told the Washington Post that "there is a very high level of support for George Bush among current and former CIA employees."


Under questioning by John Fitzgerald, who was acting as counsel for the House subcommittee chaired by Rep. Don Albosta, Codevilla responded:

I am aware that active duty agents of the Central Intelligence Agency worked for the George Bush primary campaign. However, I cannot now remember some of these persons and I am not at liberty to identify others by names or positions because to do so would compromise their cover.

Al-CIAduh is working hard on the summer surprise, rest assured.
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maggrwaggr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-01-04 02:17 AM
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7. sorry, my mind is still reeling from that other thread you posted
the "Paranoid Shift" one.

Holy shit.

I'll try to come back to this later
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cosmicdot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-02-04 08:15 AM
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8. 2 days after posting, and I still can't get this thread out of my mind
especially with talk and concern of 'not if, but when' ...

I'd feel a lot better if certain people were behind bars ... the crimes and corruption since 1962 ... and, some of this country's worst are still running our government ...

... Poppy is more involved in the current scenario than is made available or that they let on - imo - and, he's been setting the stage for his incompetent and dangerous heirs for a long time ...

the Tarpley chapter spells out the devious Bush-Pierce-Walker mind at work ...

Poppy is a dangerous and evil person. He's been corrupting the system all his life.

His own little excursion into Iraq was geared to pump up the failing economy; so, he knows well how the military-industrial feeds all the economic indicators and indices ... unfortunately, his formula is more New World Order instead of New Age World ... it's anchored in a point in time which the rest of the world is rejecting, and moving away from ... ergo: conflict ... gosh knows the multiplier effect will be in terms of their agenda on future years of retribution against us ... how do you 'make up' for killing and maiming 10s of thousands of people, destroying their families, etc.? ... by saying, 'sorry'? ... we have a new driver now?

there will be many a reminder of the BFEE/PNAC/CFR/Heritage/CNP/AEI damage on this world ...




... and, just why is it he's the only person of reasonable age, not to know where he was when they murdered JFK ...


I wonder how the world would have turned out if Nixon had chosen Poppy instead of Ford to replace Agnew.







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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-02-04 10:59 AM
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9. Kick!
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