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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-30-04 09:01 AM
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The NY Times seems to be giving Judith Miller a pass.
Today's review of the wmd coverage by Daniel Okrent, Public Editor, mentions Judith Miller several times.

However, he says, "The failure was not individual, but institutional."

And that the solution is for the Times to do "a series of aggressively reported stories detailing the misinformation, disinformation and suspect analysis that led virtually the entire world to believe Hussein had W.M.D. at his disposal."

The idea of anyone being asked to resign, such as Judith Miller, is never floated in Okrent's article.

http://www.nytimes.com/2004/05/30/weekinreview/30bott.html?pagewanted=all&position=

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Hornito Donating Member (460 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-30-04 10:06 AM
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1. Of course they are. Bill Keller and Jill Abramson are still in
charge, and they allowed Miller to become the Times' own neocon propagandist. She may have just as well been on PNAC's board too, for all her breathless propaganda in support of their causes. Until the Times fires Miller, Keller, and Abramson, all their "Page A-10" attempts at contrition can be taken with a grain of salt.

The fact is, major management at the Times, up to and including the publisher, have shown a distinct propensity for "Joe Lieberman type" dual loyalty. They have, until recently, continually backed the neocon/PNAC/Bush/Sharon/Likud mafia, at great cost to this country.

Fact is, they have betrayed their readers, this nation, and their profession, and in aiding and abetting the neoNAZIcon mafia, have had a hand in the deaths of thousands, including now over 800 of our own. A pillar of the Fourth Estate, they are not. They are traitors, and should be prosecuted as such.
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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-30-04 10:32 AM
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2. I wouldn't go that far.
I wouldn't go that far.

I like the NY Times.

But if they don't ask Judith Miller to resign, their credibility will diminish.
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-30-04 11:38 AM
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10. They should ask Judith Miller to resign?
The NYT damn near lynched Jayson Blair over shit that didn't get no one killed and Judith should be asked to resign? FIRE. HER. ASS. Not tomorrow. Make it retroactive about a year or so ago.

Don

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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-30-04 03:29 PM
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11. I was politely phrasing a similar sentiment (nt)
nt
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BillZBubb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-30-04 10:41 AM
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3. And this surprises you?
It doesn't surprise me in the least. The NY Times is not the great paper it once was. It is now a right leaning rag.
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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-30-04 10:44 AM
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4. They did ask three people to resign over the Jayson Blair
They did ask three people to resign over the Jayson Blair articles, which didn't contribute to any deaths, and so asking at least one person to resign over Judith Miller's reporting shouldn't be too much.
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-30-04 10:46 AM
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5. She must be sleeping with somebody from the top
to keep her job....
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-30-04 10:51 AM
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6. Of course she gets a pass
She's an agitprop plant for the administration. Unka Karl wouldn't like it if his conduit at the newspaper of record was taken away. Spank, spank!
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-30-04 11:06 AM
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7. Is Judith Miller really Vogue editor Anna Wintour?
Separated at birth?



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scrotim Donating Member (171 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-30-04 11:08 AM
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8. Yeah, this is appalling. Jayson Blair didn't help kill anyone, did he?
It is amazing, the power of institutional political and personal connections.

JM must be blowing someone at the top, or giving up the ass, or she has damaging goods on those around and above her. You don't keep a position like hers after such a grandiose fuckup unless you're able to blackmail your superiors.

hell, i see this often at the everyday level of the mundane corporate structure in american business. No surprise it works at the Times.

I was amused that she recently "lowered" herself to using the f-word in interviews, saying she had been proved "fucking" right.

Never mind how insane that statement is; I'm just shocked that she doesn't use "fucking" in her regular claptrap articles. As in, "I am a 'fucking' lousy-ass reporter."
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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-30-04 11:10 AM
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9. When did she use the f-word in an interview? (nt)
nt
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scrotim Donating Member (171 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-30-04 04:52 PM
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13. I'll see if I can hunt down the info. n/t
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BevHarris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-30-04 03:51 PM
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12. Judith Miller is the most depressing example of media whoredom
in America. Resign? No, I vote for fired, along with her enablers. This woman, remember, reported that she was mailed anthrax (which turned out to be fake). She became an overnight expert on anthrax. She's no expert on anything, judging by how often her reporting has been wrong.

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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-30-04 04:58 PM
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14. I'd settle for any outcome in which the NY Times increases
I'd settle for any outcome in which the NY Times increases its credibility by not printing any more articles by Judith Miller.

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