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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-30-04 09:57 AM
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If you agreed with Gore's speech, then you must be clinically insane
That was the phrase being tossed around by the right-wingers this morning on C-SPAN. The right-wing guest and host did not dispute any of the callers' claims so it must be true. I kept waiting for someone -anyone - to ask the callers if they watched the speech or just the clip and its interpretation on cable TV? But alas! Not to be.

The guest said that Gore had probably ruined any hope for a political future after his "intemperate" remarks. If that doesn't make you question your sanity, what will? :) But I'll tell you what really drives me crazy. People such as Peter Goff, the UPI guest, and others that continue to deny the disaster we now have in the White House and the miserable failure of this administration. It drives me crazy just how much these folks are out of touch with reality - not just political reality but the reality of their everyday lives.

They ignore Gore's comments because they cannot permit the truth to enter their small, illusory world. In November, we will know who needs to see their doctor for depression. I still like Kerry's chances. :)
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JNelson6563 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-30-04 10:02 AM
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1. Wellstone Memorial Syndrome
This looks like a strain of it.

So many who never saw it could talk of nothing else and of course had nothing nice to say.

Julie
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babzilla Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-30-04 10:22 AM
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18. Gaslighting
Seems like every recent event that has made me feel real pride and passion for the Democratic party i.e. the Wellstone memorial, Dean's campaign, Gore's speech has been mocked, ridiculed and ruled outrageously unstable.

Funny, I don't feel crazy, but that could be a symptom of insanity too. What would Ingrid Bergman do?
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doni_georgia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-30-04 10:03 AM
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2. Call me insane then - How could anyone listen to or better yet read the
text of that speech and not be moved? My God, Gore said everything that needed to be said. He spoke the truth, which is more than anyone in this administration has ever done. My guess is these people did not hear ONE word of the speech. They focused entirely (if they watched it at all) on Gore's mannerisms and passion. Hell, they probably couldn't understand the words - Gore used some mighty big multisyllabic terms, and he pronounced them correctly. How could you possibly expect Dumbya's supporters to understand a word he spoke? These neocon neanderthals hate intellectualism. They love having a president with a lukewarm IQ. Makes them feel superior.
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Alerter_ Donating Member (898 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-30-04 10:07 AM
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9. "dishonor" and "disgrace" - The GOP understood loud and clear
That's why they are spinning so fast.

Dishonor/Disgrace 2004
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Brian_Expat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-30-04 10:03 AM
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3. They're not out of touch
They know what they're doing, they're just seeking to curry favour with the powers that be. When Kerry wins with Democrats running both houses, they'll change their tune to support him, too and talk about "shocking revelations" of how incompetent the Republicans were.

That is why they're media whores.
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Alerter_ Donating Member (898 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-30-04 10:04 AM
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4. clinically insane means you approve of rape and torture
Sorry, if you DISAGREE with Gore that the actions were dishonorable and disgraceful, YOU are clinically insane. Gore sounds like the ONLY sane person on TV lately.
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-30-04 10:04 AM
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5. I may as well be then
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GOPFighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-30-04 10:05 AM
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6. C-Span seems to be leaning more to the right
Has anyone else gotten this impression? I listened to Brian Lamb and Robert Novak answering callers one morning a few weeks ago and they teamed up against everyone on the left. Brian called Novak his good friend. I was really pissed by the end of the program.

:nuke:
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babzilla Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-30-04 10:06 AM
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7. I guess we should all be fitted for straitjackets
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-30-04 10:35 AM
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21. The truth is clinically insane.
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-30-04 10:06 AM
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8. They figure that tact worked on Dean. Fuck 'em. Go Gore.
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babzilla Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-30-04 10:10 AM
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14. First they gored Gore.
Then they Gored Dean.

Now they're Deaning Gore.
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The Magistrate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-30-04 10:07 AM
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10. It Does Not Matter, My Bluegrass Friend
The speech was a marvel, and the excerpt from it most frequently played is a stirring and powerful piece of oratory, that will affect favorable anyone exposed to it who is not already irredeemably committed to the enemy....

"How DARE they drag the good name of the United States of America through the mud of Saddam Hussein's torture prison!"

"LET'S GO GET THOSE BUSH BASTARDS!"
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-30-04 03:10 PM
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24. Sir, I've been thinking along a similar line...
Let's encourage them to show the clip more and more...because it is a powerful message to anyone that has not yet sold their soul to the enemy... I say we encourage them to show it more....
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-30-04 10:07 AM
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11. The new definition of insane....
reason.
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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-30-04 10:08 AM
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12. maybe C-Span should change his practice of one guest at a time
Maybe C-Span should change its practice of one guest at a time.

The C-Span hosts are neutral, and so a rightwing idiot can dominate under the current setup.
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-30-04 10:09 AM
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13. If what I heard of it is insane
than color me crazy :shrug:

Gore has made some fantastic speeches in the last two years.
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RetroLounge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-30-04 10:12 AM
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15. Then I am crazy. So be it.
It was the best and most important speech in recent time.

The Repugs are just jealous of anyone who can speak eloquently for 45 minutes.

Oh, and the truth scares the shit out of them too...

RL
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Mayberry Machiavelli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-30-04 10:14 AM
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16. Did anyone call in and say, "No, I agree with it, I'm sane as all hell,
and I'm not going to take it anymore (voting Bushco out in the fall)!"
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tandot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-30-04 10:19 AM
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17. We are either traitors, unpatriotic, or insane. I give a sh*t
Call me insane if that is what it means to speak up against an completely incompetent leader who is endangering America's freedom and democracy.

I consider anyone who is still supporting Bush unpatriotic. Everything he does goes against America's values and endangers us and our country.
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ColdWarZoomie Donating Member (79 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-30-04 10:27 AM
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19. Both Sides' Callers are Mostly Crap
I used to listen to C-SPAN Sunday mornings and was amazed at the pro-Bush callers and the crap they spewed.

Sad thing is, the anti-Bush callers weren't any better! Just flip-flopping from one extreme to the other.

I gave up when few on either side could string together any cohesive argument.
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ThomWV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-30-04 10:28 AM
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20. I'll Be God Damned
It is the height of sanity for a Statesman to try to change the course of his nation when it is woefully out of line with the national ethos. It is the simple acceptance of the incompetence of the Administration of George W. Bush that is insane. Al Gore is to be praised for his dedication to country and particularly for having made that wonderful, insightful, and honest speach. I have had fellow Democrats say the had heard the speach was 'over the edge' and I have asked them immediately, did they actually hear the speach themselves? The answer has invariably been 'no'. I'll be god damned if that is an acceptable answer. Listen to the speach and then tell me its insane, and if you believe it to be than as far as I'm concerned you can be god damned as well.
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babzilla Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-30-04 02:36 PM
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22. must be lots of them crazy folk out there
the Gore speech is currently the most watched video on the c-span site with John Kerry's 5/27 speech on National Security policy at #2.

Greg Palast's Washington Journal segment has been in the top 5 since it first aired on 5/5.


http://www.c-span.org
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JohnOneillsMemory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-30-04 02:43 PM
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23. US economy to crash hard by December, global warming happening now.
Denial is being sold as optomism. We are so fucked.
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Hamlette Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-30-04 03:11 PM
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25. at the same time they say Kerry has no passion?!?!?
We should call on the NYTimes to do an article on the marginalization of Gore. Where can I find the text? We could start by showing that Gore didn't say anything that republicans/former generals have said.
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