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oldhat Donating Member (692 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-29-04 12:44 AM
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Ashcroft to Resign?
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LittleApple81 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-29-04 12:52 AM
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1. I think it will backfire on them. Especially if they appoint somebody
worse (which I don't put past them).
I think that will only make people want more resignations.
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dusty64 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-29-04 10:58 AM
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13. I find it hard to think
of anyone worse, except perhaps pat robertson or jerry falwell.
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flewellyn Donating Member (82 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-29-04 11:41 AM
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16. Worse? How?
Methinks in order to find someone worse than Ashcroft, you would have to actually resurrect J. Edgar Hoover. Or, I suppose, Lavrenty Pavlovich Beria.

Actually, I think Ashcroft might well be the reincarnation of Beria.
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Kool Kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-29-04 12:52 AM
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2. oh please oh please oh please oh please oh please
oh please please PLEASE PLEASE please oh please oh please
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Unperson 309 Donating Member (836 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-29-04 02:35 PM
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22. Heeheehee! You Remind Me

Of the old Farside cartoon. Following a series of signs reading (in badly scrawled letters) "Free CAT FUD!" "Eat Heer" "Cat Fud INSIDE"
a cat is looking inside an opened clothes dryer. The dog is hiding behind the dryer with a paw on the 'ON' switch and he's thinking "Ohpleaseohpleaseohpleeeease..."
It always gives me a chuckle!

309
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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-29-04 01:02 AM
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3. hmmmmm.
Don't know what to think. Ashcroft as fall guy? What would the fundies do??????
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Hamlette Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-29-04 01:14 AM
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4. fits with what I heard on NPR earlier today
they said Senator Hatch had called for an investigation of the latest terrorist scare. No details. I wasn't sure if it was to investigate how to deal with a real scare or to investigate why Ashcroft called out a phony terrorist scare.

If Ashcroft is on his way out, Bush would set Congress on him first.
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stopbush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-29-04 10:48 AM
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8. If Hatch called for an investigation, it's pure damage control.
This guy is so predictable! Every time an R gets in trouble, they push Hatch out there ahead of the story for damage control. They'll launch a pseudo investigation, and like clockwork - usually 3-4 months later - Hatch will exonerate the R with his, "now that I've seen all the evidence, there was no crime," BS.

Count on it.
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jeff30997 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-29-04 01:21 AM
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5. What a nightmare!
Each time i read something about Crofty the clown,i begin hearing is stupid song in my head:Let the Eagle Soooaaaaar...(I know,i need help.)
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burrowowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-29-04 01:25 AM
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6. Does Bu$hie
Edited on Sat May-29-04 01:25 AM by burrowowl
have someone even worse than A$$KKKraft in the wings? One who sits at Satan's right?
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cliss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-29-04 01:49 AM
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7. Ashcroft is one scary guy
I've done a little research on him (on the Internet) and he's just a weird dude.

I do know that he lied under oath to the 9/11 commission recently. I think it was the director of the FBI said that Ashcroft "didn't want to hear anything about terrorists".

He flat out denied this. A lie.
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SalParadise Donating Member (244 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-29-04 10:51 AM
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9. This was the first I'd heard of Asscroft leaving.
So that's: Powell (probably), Rice (probably), Asscroft (maybe), Cheney (maybe), Rumsfeld (should).

Who's left to run this country, surely not bush.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-29-04 10:53 AM
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10. Ridge must be pushing for it.
Ashcroft messed with the wrong guy, cuz Ridge is very close with Bush.
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nostamj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-29-04 10:55 AM
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11. oh no!
there goes my 'tribute' to ashcroft song....
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Jack Rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-29-04 10:57 AM
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12. I really don't give a two-bit damn
So what if Ashcraft resigns? Bush will still appoint his successor.

The whole lot of them have to go. January 20 really isn't soon enough, but it will have to do.
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Vickers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-29-04 10:59 AM
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14. Will God even allow this?
:shrug:
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Wind Dancer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-29-04 11:01 AM
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15. NYT's article yesterday
http://www.nytimes.com/2004/05/29/politics/29terror.html

WASHINGTON, May 28 - The F.B.I. issued an urgent bulletin to several cities on Friday that warned of the prospect of an imminent terrorist attack but retracted the alert hours later, after the intelligence proved unfounded, officials said.

The alert went to law enforcement officials in two or three cities to warn of intelligence that indicated the prospect of an attack in the next 24 hours, officials said. Officials would not give the names of the cities.

A federal official in New York City, when asked about the warning, said he was unaware of the city's having received any such notification.

A law enforcement official at another city, who insisted that he and the city not be named, said authorities there had received a call late in the day from the Federal Bureau of Investigation alerting them to the possibility of an "imminent" attack there. Later, however, the FBI called to withdraw the warning.

The official, citing recent questions about the credibility of the terrorist intelligence from the bureau, said, "It's getting harder and harder to defend them."

...more...

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mike1963 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-29-04 11:49 AM
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17. How is this really different from someone phoning in a bomb threat?
(other than affecting vastly larger numbers of people...)
:grr:
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immoderate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-29-04 11:52 AM
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18. Remember the story: "The Agency That Cried Wolf"
Anybody here remember hiding under your school desk to avoid atomic bomb blasts?

--IMM
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chookie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-29-04 12:23 PM
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19. Highly unlikely
The only departures from this adminstration have been from people who are "out of line" -- like O'Neill, who didn't sanction Eternal Serial Tax Cuts for the Wealthy". Or Richard Clarke, who felt they were mismanaging counter-terrorism. Or DiUlio, who thought they were way too extreme and nuts.

No one has been fired for incompetence. Because incompetence is okay with this adminstration. What really matters to them is Disloyalty -- that's what you lose your job over!

Firing Ashcroft will be an admission that they were wrong. There is no precedent for them admitting they are ever wrong. Ashcroft is also needed on board to keep the religious wackos and Death Penalty Jehovah-The War-God worshippersr happy. Bush is very nuts, but his base is, believe it or not, even more nuts, and they are constantly pressuring him to live up to his promises to them to be very very very nuts.

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mw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-29-04 12:36 PM
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20. If he does, Guiliani will get the spot n/t
nt
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tkmorris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-29-04 02:20 PM
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21. Good, Giuliani is a pig
And I am real tired of him getting away with it due to some perception that he was marginally competent on 9/11. Hitching his wagon to the falling star that is this administration just might finally plant a stake in his shriveled, blackened, heart.
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Jack Rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-29-04 03:07 PM
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24. Guiliani, nah . . .
. . . Guiliani isn't crooked enough to serve in the junta.
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-29-04 02:42 PM
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23. Oh I hope NOT! I want AS MANY OF THESE SCHMUCKS as possible
left EXACTLY where they are, all the way til election day. I want AS MANY millstones still hanging around bush's neck as possible!!!!

Besides, if ashcroft goes, I guarantee you, there WILL be people who assume that - well, there goes the problems, then, right? Coast is clear, they got rid of that awful john ashcroft. Oh, what leadership! What a decisive leader bush is. He actually got rid of the bad guy(s).

And my friends, we do NOT want to foster that kind of misconception!!
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randr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-29-04 03:15 PM
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25. Start at the bottom
and work our way up!
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