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HEyHEY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-04 08:21 PM
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Do you buy this shit about "The conservatives clearing house in the west?" I don't I think the opposite.. I'm sure based just on the Iraq war and Harpers stance on it..the conservs will lose big...what do you think?


THough most of you are probably watching the game.
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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-04 08:29 PM
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1. It's all about cheap oil....
...and Canadian beef. That is the conservatives want to keep exporting those commodities to the U.S. benefiting their wealthy land owners and oil tycoons and keeping western residents employed. Bush turned his back on liberals and the socialists (NDPs) so I'm sure republican money is flowing north to maintain a conservative power-base out there to do their bidding. Politics, isn't it fun?
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Spazito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-04 08:31 PM
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2. I don't see them picking up many more seats than they have...
if any. Most of B.C. and Alberta are Alliance now faux Conservative so it won't make much difference. They have to break through big in Ontario in order to move at all.
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Lisa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-04 08:33 PM
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3. I've got some hope for the cities ...
The urban areas (even Calgary-Edmonton) aren't as friendly to the Conservatives as the rural ridings are -- and demographics are on our side, because most Canadians now live in cities, these days. This is probably another reason why Harper has tried to go for a "kinder, gentler" image -- not just because he wants to break into vote-rich Ontario.

I really hope that Ontario doesn't let him in.

On the west coast, there might be some gains for the NDP in the Lower Mainland and South Island. The campaign manager asked me to colour in the Victoria-area polls that had over 20% NDP support, and there actually were several of them, which is a good sign.

The ex-Reform guy in Esquimalt has switched to the Liberals (Keith Martin) and he's popular enough that he just might hang onto his seat -- though I talked to the NDP candidate in that riding (one of my co-workers!) and he's very hopeful.
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Sticky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-04 08:38 PM
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4. Steven Harper has NO CHANCE in the Maritimes
Paul Martin's Liberals are sinking like a stone and the NDP is poised to gain big.....that's what I'm hearing locally.

"Steven Harper is a horse's ass" seems to be the overall sentiment here.
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Hand Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-04 11:02 PM
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9. I hope you're right...
Some of the traditional Tory ridings here are way too lockstep for my taste... maybe they'll finally crack wise and break ranks this time around (hey, look what we did to the Grits in 1997!)

:hi:
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HEyHEY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-04 09:52 PM
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5. Kick - game's over
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freeforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-04 10:02 PM
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6. I'd love to believe it HeyHey, but
Edited on Tue May-25-04 10:03 PM by freeforall
...Alberta is total redneck country. Although, during the provincial election (Ralph's second term - can't remember the date, LOL) all of Edmonton voted Liberal, except for 2 seats - 1 NDP, 1 independent. NO conservatives!!! But they seem to go conservative in federal elections.

Calgary now - may have a good hockey team (Yay!) but are hopeless conservatives.

I'm keeping my fingers crossed though - and still voting Liberal.
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HEyHEY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-04 11:33 PM
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8. I can't figure Calgary's conservative ways
It's such a young town..maybe it's just cause they all live in the same region of town
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SidDithers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-25-04 10:09 PM
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7. I don't see them making significant progress in Ontario...
Edited on Tue May-25-04 10:10 PM by SidDithers
They may pick up 5-8 seats, simply because the Ontario Liberals are VERY unpopular right now, and some of that may spill over onto the fed Libs. I can't speak for Quebec, but don't imagine Mr. Harper will be very popular there either.

If they've lost any support in the west, hopefully Layton and the NDP can pick up in Manitoba, Saskatchewan and BC.

Sid
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Screaming Lord Byron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-04 11:06 PM
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10. There's gonna be slippage, particularly in BC.
They'll also lose ground in SK to the NDP, and perhaps to the Liberals.
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